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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 2:38pm


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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 2:09pm

 aflanigan wrote:

I think maybe you need a break. You decide out of the blue to answer a post that was not even directed to you with a red herring, and then get all defensive when your attempt at misdirection is called out by buddy.

I don't apply the labels you mention to you or any other posters. I focus on the alleged qualifications of Trump, and on my opinion of the statements people make on his behalf. I try to avoid ad hominem attacks. 

If you truly are sick of it all, why do you engage? And are you really entitled to play the martyr card? I can't speak for others, but myself, I still believe that we can have civil discourse on any topic.  Perhaps there is a specific person here who has called you "stupid", "racist", "xenophobic", "homophobic", "bigoted", etc., and if so, they shouldn't (I think speech or behavior that has these characteristics, particularly that of a candidate for office, deserves to be called out). But painting everyone who disagrees with you with the same broad stereotype based on ad hominem attacks and labels that you're likely to see on 4chan is not going to gain you any sympathy from those you are trying to persuade.

 
So on top of everything else, you're calling him a big baby too?

Just kidding {#Wink}
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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 1:49pm

 kurtster wrote:

The only other questions I see being asked in here are how can people be so stupid, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, chauvinistic, bigoted or ignorant to vote for Trump.

I'm one of two people here, and the only one who can vote on it that, openly supports Trump.  How many times am I supposed to answer how can I be so stupid, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, chauvinistic, bigoted or ignorant to vote for Trump.  I mean really.

So just ignore me when I bring up Hillary when questions are asked about Trump while y'all insult me, over and over again.  Is what it is.  Some of us were unhappy with Obama for 8 years, so now its time for someone else to be unhappy for a little while.  That's the way it rolls.  

But odds are Hillary will win, so you can be happy for another 8 years.

Truthfully, already I'm sick and tired of this election cycle and resigned to Hillary walking past the FBI and getting elected POTUS.  All that is left in me is emptiness and despair at the entire system and learning to live the fact that all the things I was taught about life and this country was all wrong.


 
I think maybe you need a break. You decide out of the blue to answer a post that was not even directed to you with a red herring, and then get all defensive when your attempt at misdirection is called out by buddy.

I don't apply the labels you mention to you or any other posters. I focus on the alleged qualifications of Trump, and on my opinion of the statements people make on his behalf. I try to avoid ad hominem attacks. 

If you truly are sick of it all, why do you engage? And are you really entitled to play the martyr card? I can't speak for others, but myself, I still believe that we can have civil discourse on any topic.  Perhaps there is a specific person here who has called you "stupid", "racist", "xenophobic", "homophobic", "bigoted", etc., and if so, they shouldn't (I think speech or behavior that has these characteristics, particularly that of a candidate for office, deserves to be called out). But painting everyone who disagrees with you with the same broad stereotype based on ad hominem attacks and labels that you're likely to see on 4chan is not going to gain you any sympathy from those you are trying to persuade.
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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 1:37pm

 kcar wrote:

Or hey, you could vote the narcissistic blowhard douchebag and help drop the world's respect for us to an all-time low! It's the idiocratic thing to do! 
 

 
Hillary?
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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 1:34pm

On Thursday morning, the Trump campaign had told CBS News it wasn't a serious idea and wouldn't be happening — Trump was just joking.
I'm sure we'll hear that one a few more times.

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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 1:13pm

 kcar wrote:

Or hey, you could vote the narcissistic blowhard douchebag and help drop the world's respect for us to an all-time low! It's the idiocratic thing to do! 
 

 
But..he's made money and tells it like it is and

 
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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 1:00pm

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Not for nothing, but this a "Trump" thread, not a "Compare Trump to Clinton" thread.  It's not really answering a question about Trump to revert the dialog to be about Clinton.  There's a whole other thread about her.  Just sayin'.

 
The only other questions I see being asked in here are how can people be so stupid, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, chauvinistic, bigoted or ignorant to vote for Trump.

I'm one of two people here, and the only one who can vote on it that, openly supports Trump.  How many times am I supposed to answer how can I be so stupid, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, chauvinistic, bigoted or ignorant to vote for Trump.  I mean really.

So just ignore me when I bring up Hillary when questions are asked about Trump while y'all insult me, over and over again.  Is what it is.  Some of us were unhappy with Obama for 8 years, so now its time for someone else to be unhappy for a little while.  That's the way it rolls.  

But odds are Hillary will win, so you can be happy for another 8 years.

Truthfully, already I'm sick and tired of this election cycle and resigned to Hillary walking past the FBI and getting elected POTUS.  All that is left in me is emptiness and despair at the entire system and learning to live the fact that all the things I was taught about life and this country was all wrong.

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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 9:46am

 aflanigan wrote:

So if his net worth is his primary qualification (according to him, since he boasts about what a successful business man he is almost as much as he tries to portray himself as a ladies' man) and he's been lying about it (his euphemism for his pathology is "truthful hyperbole"), that should not disqualify him?

Lies about military fundraisers, lies about wealth, lies about 9/11, lies about immigrants, ad nauseum.

The only unanswered question about his pathology is, does he believe the lies he tells about himself, i.e. is he cynical or deluded? 

 
You mean like Hillary who insists that she had permission from State for her private server ?
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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 8:15am

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Trump's net worth isn't relevant to his candidacy. The man is not fit or prepared to be President. We could argue all day about his temperament and character, but the guy hasn't prepared at all for the job. His knowledge base relevant to the job's demands is non-existent and he has a tiny circle of third- or fourth-rate advisors. 

 

 
So if his net worth is his primary qualification (according to him, since he boasts about what a successful business man he is almost as much as he tries to portray himself as a ladies' man) and he's been lying about it (his euphemism for his pathology is "truthful hyperbole"), that should not disqualify him?

Lies about military fundraisers, lies about wealth, lies about 9/11, lies about immigrants, ad nauseum.

The only unanswered question about his pathology is, does he believe the lies he tells about himself, i.e. is he cynical or deluded? 
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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 7:48am

 black321 wrote:
Trump has clinched Republican nomination: AP
yippee, we've hit the bottom!  Can only get better...oh wait, he might get elected!?

 

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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 7:25am

Trump has clinched Republican nomination: AP
yippee, we've hit the bottom!  Can only get better...oh wait, he might get elected!?
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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 7:05am

DePaul Protester: "Pick Up Your Trump Sh**, White Male!" bit.ly/20Dav9Z

Marco Rubio: Media Should Report ‘Truth’ About Professional Protesters Disrupting Trump

Sen. Marco Rubio is criticizing the media, urging it to report the truth about violent protests at Donald Trump rallies.

“Hope media will start to report truth, many of the violent protestorsevents are ‘professional protestors,’ not grassroots,” he said on Twitter early this morning.

Rubio added that there was a “whole industry of professional disrupters who go to events to disrupt them knowing cameras will gravitate to them.”

“These protestsnot organic,” he said.

Rubio’s comments are starkly different than his reaction to the protests in Chicago when the Florida senator was still running against Trump for the Republican nomination for president.

“I’m telling you, that this boiling point that we have now reached has been fed largely by the fact that we have a frontrunner in my party who has fed into language that basically justifies physically assaulting people who disagree with you,” Rubio said in a press conference the morning after the riots in Chicago in March.

At that time, Rubio warned the political process was careening towards chaos, and blamed Trump’s angry and bitter rhetoric during his rallies for sparking the violence.

“It’s not just about Chicago, it happened in St. Louis … this has happened repeatedly now, this is not new. This is a pattern,” he said. “You cannot say whatever you want, words have consequences.”




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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 3:51am

 rotekz wrote:
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Nice cherry-picking for that graphic; it seems they ignored the other eight questions.  Actually on the majority of issues brought up on that poll, Clinton leads.  Still, any poll results of 1,000 people can only be somewhat reliable.
 wsj
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Posted: May 26, 2016 - 12:42am


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Posted: May 25, 2016 - 11:50pm

 kurtster wrote:

And it has to be historic like the last one.  This time it has to be a woman.  Its the most politically correct thing to do !

 
Or hey, you could vote the narcissistic blowhard douchebag and help drop the world's respect for us to an all-time low! It's the idiocratic thing to do! 
 
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Posted: May 25, 2016 - 10:16pm

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

I think we need a person who's a professional politician.
They are the best qualified.
Someone who's in touch with everyday life.
This has worked in the past for our benefit.

 
And it has to be historic like the last one.  This time it has to be a woman.  Its the most politically correct thing to do !
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Posted: May 25, 2016 - 9:28pm

 kcar wrote:
Articles about Trump's net worth: 


Trump's net worth isn't relevant to his candidacy. The man is not fit or prepared to be President. We could argue all day about his temperament and character, but the guy hasn't prepared at all for the job. His knowledge base relevant to the job's demands is non-existent and he has a tiny circle of third- or fourth-rate advisors. 

 

 
I think we need a person who's a professional politician.
They are the best qualified.
Someone who's in touch with everyday life.
This has worked in the past for our benefit.
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Posted: May 25, 2016 - 9:22pm

 kurtster wrote:

Funny, I feel the same way about Hillary ...

 She just sounds so phony to me.
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Posted: May 25, 2016 - 9:20pm

 kcar wrote:

Seein' as how Teddy's been resting comfortably for about 100 years, I'll go with Hillary. 

 
So your going to throw away your vote just like me. {#Cheesygrin}
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