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Dec 24, 2016 - 5:37pm |
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islander wrote: I have never said that Trump wasn't president or didn't deserve it. I don't think he is presidential, but that is something entirely different, I don't contest his right to take the seat.
This whole right wing argument (and yes it is a right wing argument) about California is simply stupid. No one has said let's not count Florida, or Texas, or any other state that went for trump. I have a feeling you would be entirely against the electoral college if the situation were reversed.
Yes. Well said. People were kvetching about the electoral college back in 2000 as well. It becomes a sore spot whenever the electoral vote and popular vote disagree. Personally, I wish that more electoral voters had defected from Trump as a reflection of the man's lack of fitness to be president, but any form of democracy is occasionally going to give you unpleasant surprises. If you're complaining about the electoral college, there's a good chance your candidate wasn't as strong as you thought. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you all!
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haresfur

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Dec 24, 2016 - 5:07pm |
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sirdroseph wrote:
And yet Donald Trump is our President, no small thing, this happened somehow. As far as popular vote goes, one word... California. Believe me I am no fan of Trump, but I have the opposite view than most concerning the electoral college, in my view, this election highlights the necessity for keeping it in place because......Kalifornia.
As far as being offended, it seems the offense was manifested through voting, no?
Yeah because the low population states have no extra check and balance in the senate where their power is inordinate with respect to their population  . So by historical happenstance of how lines were drawn when they were formed, a bunch of states get all kinds of extra power already. I'm in favour of geographical considerations being accounted for in governance but they already have that. The presidential election is the only one where everyone is voting on the same slate of candidates and as Scott pointed out, is the only one where people who have a minority opinion in their region can have some actual say, however small.
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ScottFromWyoming

Location: Powell Gender:  
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Dec 24, 2016 - 4:31pm |
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sirdroseph wrote:
And yet Donald Trump is our President, no small thing, this happened somehow. As far as popular vote goes, one word... California. Believe me I am no fan of Trump, but I have the opposite view than most concerning the electoral college, in my view, this election highlights the necessity for keeping it in place because......Kalifornia.
As far as being offended, it seems the offense was manifested through voting, no?
Everyone talks like California votes as one monolithic entity. Hillary took California by 4.5 million votes, yes. But that pendulum swings. The GOP took California 5 or 6 elections in a row; it's sort of alternated like that every couple of decades. I agree with the GOP that if it were a popular vote, California's right wing would vote for the GOP candidate more often (whereas now if they show up they might be voting Libertarian or Constitution or some protest vote). I agree with Trump, that the GOP would spend more time and money there, and have a fighting chance of picking up an easy million votes even if the state is overall going to go to the Democrats. That is, there were probably a million GOP votes left on the table there because what's the point? Vs. trying to pick up that many in Ohio, where Trump won by 450,000 votes... beating yourself up to get more out of Ohio is probably a waste of time. Wyoming would still be ignored, but my lone vote would count for something.
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islander

Location: West coast somewhere Gender:  
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Dec 24, 2016 - 4:12pm |
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sirdroseph wrote:
And yet Donald Trump is our President, no small thing, this happened somehow. As far as popular vote goes, one word... California. Believe me I am no fan of Trump, but I have the opposite view than most concerning the electoral college, in my view, this election highlights the necessity for keeping it in place because......Kalifornia.
As far as being offended, it seems the offense was manifested through voting, no?
I have never said that Trump wasn't president or didn't deserve it. I don't think he is presidential, but that is something entirely different, I don't contest his right to take the seat. This whole right wing argument (and yes it is a right wing argument) about California is simply stupid. No one has said let's not count Florida, or Texas, or any other state that went for trump. I have a feeling you would be entirely against the electoral college if the situation were reversed.
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sirdroseph

Location: Not here, I tell you wat Gender:  
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Dec 24, 2016 - 10:37am |
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islander wrote: Yeah, I'm still not convinced. He lost the popular vote by a huge margin, and just barely squeaked in on the electoral. I'll give him the win, but I'll still call him out as a bully on a regular basis when warranted.
I do get the irony of forcing women to perform for him giving his history and language. If he's (or his supporters) are offended, then maybe they need a safe space?
And yet Donald Trump is our President, no small thing, this happened somehow. As far as popular vote goes, one word... California. Believe me I am no fan of Trump, but I have the opposite view than most concerning the electoral college, in my view, this election highlights the necessity for keeping it in place because......Kalifornia. As far as being offended, it seems the offense was manifested through voting, no?
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islander

Location: West coast somewhere Gender:  
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Dec 24, 2016 - 10:24am |
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sirdroseph wrote: islander wrote: Don't be a stupid smarty....
It would be hilarious if they did this. I wonder how everyone would react?
Oh I don't know, do something like have even more incentive to vote for idiots like Trump because their adversaries are even more annoying for calling everyone who doesn't agree with them Nazis and racist? Or in other words, you want Trump? Cause that is how you got Trump. Yeah, I'm still not convinced. He lost the popular vote by a huge margin, and just barely squeaked in on the electoral. I'll give him the win, but I'll still call him out as a bully on a regular basis when warranted. I do get the irony of forcing women to perform for him giving his history and language. If he's (or his supporters) are offended, then maybe they need a safe space?
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sirdroseph

Location: Not here, I tell you wat Gender:  
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Dec 24, 2016 - 10:14am |
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islander wrote: Don't be a stupid smarty....
It would be hilarious if they did this. I wonder how everyone would react?
Oh I don't know, do something like have even more incentive to vote for idiots like Trump because their adversaries are even more annoying for calling everyone who doesn't agree with them Nazis and racist? Or in other words, you want Trump? Cause that is how you got Trump.
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islander

Location: West coast somewhere Gender:  
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Dec 24, 2016 - 9:46am |
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Red_Dragon wrote: The Rockettes rehearsing for the inauguration. Don't be a stupid smarty.... It would be hilarious if they did this. I wonder how everyone would react?
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Red_Dragon

Location: Gilead 
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Dec 24, 2016 - 6:39am |
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 The Rockettes rehearsing for the inauguration.
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Manbird

Location: La Villa Toscana Gender:  
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Dec 23, 2016 - 3:40pm |
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Red_Dragon wrote: This SHOULD be funny.
Your big head is why.
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Red_Dragon

Location: Gilead 
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Dec 23, 2016 - 3:09pm |
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R_P wrote: This SHOULD be funny.
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R_P

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Dec 23, 2016 - 2:09pm |
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ScottN

Location: Half inch above the K/T boundary Gender:  
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Dec 23, 2016 - 11:48am |
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Please keep it in the family, Donald. Does the fact that this is the Washington Post mean it's read as "false news" by some? How crazy does this mo-fo has to get before...?
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Red_Dragon

Location: Gilead 
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Dec 23, 2016 - 7:21am |
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Red_Dragon

Location: Gilead 
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Dec 23, 2016 - 7:19am |
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Red_Dragon

Location: Gilead 
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Dec 23, 2016 - 7:16am |
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Kaw

Location: Just above sea level Gender:  
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Dec 22, 2016 - 1:54pm |
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aflanigan wrote: Not only an inept businessman, but a master of self-contradiction.
It belongs in this topic: http://www.radioparadise.com/rp_2.php?#name=Forums&file=showtopic&topic_id=6128&x=3768449If you can manage to sound extremely silly with just 150 characters and become president at the same time... 2017 will be an interesting year I guess. Maybe it's better if the USA gets an other president. This one is broken.
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aflanigan

Location: At Sea Gender:  
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Dec 22, 2016 - 12:20pm |
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Red_Dragon wrote:he will get us all killed... Not only an inept businessman, but a master of self-contradiction.
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Red_Dragon

Location: Gilead 
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Dec 22, 2016 - 10:02am |
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he will get us all killed...
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ScottN

Location: Half inch above the K/T boundary Gender:  
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Dec 21, 2016 - 9:45pm |
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