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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 12:44pm

 sirdroseph wrote:
 LowPhreak wrote:
 sirdroseph wrote:
This is not how we do things here. What happened to the small government Republicans?

 
 
They all seem to be for "small gubmint" except when it comes to massive waste and expenditure on the military-industrial complex, corporate welfare and the like.

It's socialism for them but "capitalism" for everyone else.
 

That was actually not my quote, I was responding to SFW. My part was explaining that there are still small government Republicans, they are just now considered the Libertarian wing and no one listens to them. lol

 
 
Islander - the alternative SFW. In all truthiness you were actually responding to me. 


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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 12:28pm

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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 12:28pm


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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 12:07pm

 LowPhreak wrote:
 sirdroseph wrote:
This is not how we do things here. What happened to the small government Republicans?

 
 
They all seem to be for "small gubmint" except when it comes to massive waste and expenditure on the military-industrial complex, corporate welfare and the like.

It's socialism for them but "capitalism" for everyone else.
 





That was actually not my quote, I was responding to SFW. My part was explaining that there are still small government Republicans, they are just now considered the Libertarian wing and no one listens to them. lol
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 11:58am


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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:55am

 sirdroseph wrote:
This is not how we do things here. What happened to the small government Republicans?

 
 
They all seem to be for "small gubmint" except when it comes to massive waste and expenditure on the military-industrial complex, corporate welfare and the like.

It's socialism for them but "capitalism" for everyone else.

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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:55am

 islander wrote:

With us or against us.  to the bitter end.

 
too friendly and too formal

we've got to get down and dirty

get mad to the point of foamy

really lower our expectations

i was thinking more like our as-h—-s versus their as-h—-s
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:48am

 miamizsun wrote:

we have got to drop the labels

or at least narrow it down to two

our _Freinds___________ and their _Foes____________.

 

 
With us or against us.  to the bitter end.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:47am

 sirdroseph wrote:
This is not how we do things here. What happened to the small government Republicans? They are still around, they are called the Libertarian wing and consists of Rand Paul, Thomas Massie, Justin Amash and a few others. No one listens to them tho just like all of us other Libertarians.

 
Trump/Bannon are calling for smaller govt. as part of their three pronged strategy (Natl Security, Economic Nationalism, Deconstruction of the State)  My fear is it will be smaller, but more concentrated...without all those pesky agencies like the EPA, Dept of Education...
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:46am

 sirdroseph wrote:
This is not how we do things here. What happened to the small government Republicans? They are still around, they are called the Libertarian wing and consists of Rand Paul, Thomas Massie, Justin Amash and a few others. No one listens to them tho just like all of us other Libertarians.

 
we have got to drop the labels

or at least narrow it down to two

our ____________ and their _____________.

 
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:42am

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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:40am

This is not how we do things here. What happened to the small government Republicans?



They are still around, they are called the Libertarian wing and consists of Rand Paul, Thomas Massie, Justin Amash and a few others. No one listens to them tho just like all of us other Libertarians.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:40am

 miamizsun wrote:

hey i've got an illustrated guide on how to beat warheads into plowshares

my gift to the world

we'll need beer, whiskey for drinkin and disinfectant, mules, a right smart of lead, designer welding hoods, bum salve, thor's hammer and titanium forceps the size of school bus

oh, i almost forgot - a private island

and snacks, lots of snacks

 
the wife just went shopping, so I got the beer and snacks.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:38am

 islander wrote:
 
I don't know.  The facts are pretty vague. If it was just one individual why the thorough scrutiny of ID's?  Why check everyone - men and women?  Why not look at the manifest and go to the seat of the person in question first (this is how I've seen individuals handled before - everyone stays put and the marshals come down the aisle). They apparently didn't find the person they were after either, which raises more questions - why not? why did they think they were on the plane (see manifest)? What information were they acting on? Where is this 'dangerous' person?


 
good points, perhaps it was possible he was traveling under another identity...my main point is there are much bigger fish to fry.  I find dredging up every story that might have anything to do with trump policy, trying to find the fault...to be annoying and counter productive.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:37am

 Proclivities wrote:

I was nowhere near San Francisco.

 
THAT'S WHAT THEY ALL SAY

BOOK 'M DANO! 
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:37am

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Agreed, except for some of Paul's anti-regulation ideas. He seems to think that letting corporations and businesses run amok without gov't oversight is the answer to our economic problems, when it's just what has gotten us into much of the mess we have now. We certainly know that they won't regulate themselves.

I do think however that one of his advisors, Bruce Fein, has often been accurate with his assessments of the Bush and Obama administrations - both highly unconstitutional and should have been impeached. If Obama had done something about the Neo-Cons when he first came in like he eluded to in his first campaign, instead of "let's look forward, not backward", things would likely have been much different now.

Take an hour and watch this, where Nader and Fein give it to the Harvard Law School brats, most of whom will go on to corporate and gov't law and cushy compensation because it's the easy way out.

The two-party oligarchy not letting other candidates into the final debates, people like Ralph Nader, Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel, Jill Stein, etc. is what keeps them from getting the higher percentages of votes they'd surely receive with wider and fairer exposure. But the R's and Ds were scared shitless back when Perot won 19% of the vote, that's why they'll never let something like it happen again.

We could say the same about American oligarchs (top U.S. incomes and corporations) as some claim about the Russian version, except I don't know why the same standards aren't used for the Americans. Oh I forgot...America is "exceptional". But it's not Russians that are usually ripping off this country, it's Americans who actually don't give a damn about nationalism or borders as long as there's a nickle to be drained.

The Russophobia has gone psychotic lately. Rational people should know better.

 




Completely agree, of course I have and always will be a blatant pro Russian sympathizer, have been since the 90s. Whatta u gonna do? lol
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:37am

 black321 wrote:

now this is something to be paranoid about...if only for the cost it will entail. 

 
hey i've got an illustrated guide on how to beat warheads into plowshares

my gift to the world

we'll need beer, whiskey for drinkin and disinfectant, mules, a right smart of lead, designer welding hoods, bum salve, thor's hammer and titanium forceps the size of school bus

oh, i almost forgot - a private island

and snacks, lots of snacks
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:37am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Is this guy a Master of Disguise? Could be traveling disguised as a small child? Old lady? 

 
I was nowhere near San Francisco.  
They took my hat pin away the last time I used the 'old lady' disguise.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:35am

 black321 wrote:
 islander wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_under_United_States_law

Why do you think it is okay for government agents to randomly molest citizens?

Here's the really disturbing part to me:

“When we were getting out there were two customs agents,” he told the news blog. “I don’t think they had a clipboard or a list. I think they were just looking at everybody’s ID. They did it really carefully. You could tell they weren’t just looking for a name. They read my entire ID and looked at me the entire time.”

This is not how we do things here. What happened to the small government Republicans? 


This was an isolated incident (one flight), pursuant to a judges order to remove a certain individual correct?  Paranoid?


 
Is this guy a Master of Disguise? Could be traveling disguised as a small child? Old lady? 
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Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 10:34am

 black321 wrote:

now this is something to be paranoid about...if only for the cost it will entail. 

 
How about the cost of the wall? The cost of a deportation force (to remove productive members of our society)? Maybe Goldman Sachs will give some of their profits back to pay for it?
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