kcar wrote:
The Soviet Union is being partially reconstituted exactly as you say, under the guise of "traditional territorial interests". If you consider effectively taking over half of Ukraine as merely defending traditional interests, then you are saying the traditional interests are the SU.

Exactly.  Trump ran on a non interventionist foreign policy.  Something we haven't seen since Monroe.  One reason I supported him.

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The Soviet Union is not reconstituted nor will it likely ever be even partially. Russia revived in the aughts mostly due to the rising price of oil and its hydrocarbon reserves. Outside of the petrochemical sector it does not have a robust economy, hence its struggles with falling oil and gas prices.  

Russia has defended its traditional territorial interests with interventions in Georgia, Ukraine and Syria (a longtime client state and home to a strategic Russian naval base in Tartus), but it has nowhere near the military might of the former USSR. The People's Republic of China is a far, far greater economic and military power.  

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Exactly.  Trump ran on a non interventionist foreign policy.  Something we haven't seen since Monroe.  One reason I supported him.

To everyone else ...  To those who say Trump has no clue regarding foreign policy ...  Just exactly how much experience did the present occupant of the WH have going in ?  Was he conducting business in 20 countries prior to taking office ?  Just how many countries did he visit as an adult before taking office ?  For that matter, just what experience did he have going in in anything that qualified him for POTUS more than Trump ?  What did Obama run or operate ?

So we (the USA) are going to throw the Baltic States under the bus and give them back to Russia ?  Says who ?  And just why is it the responsibility of the USA (only) ?  Can't the EU defend itself without the help of again, the USA ?  If so why not ?  

Its time that everyone starts pulling their own weight.  The USA spent the entire 20th Century saving the world from itself and what have we got in return ?  Hate is all.

The NWO and all the Globalists can go eff themselves. 

I'm not sure which is more ridiculous, the shifting rationales, or the outright denial. Of course, given the candidate, neither is really surprising.

I had a couple of Cuba Libres last night and will probably repeat the process tonight. ¡Viva!

 kurtster wrote:
Aren't you the guy who thought trump was going to drain the swamp?

your feet kindly ask you to put away the gun.

Exactly.  Trump ran on a non interventionist foreign policy.  Something we haven't seen since Monroe.  One reason I supported him.

To everyone else ...  To those who say Trump has no clue regarding foreign policy ...  Just exactly how much experience did the present occupant of the WH have going in ?  Was he conducting business in 20 countries prior to taking office ?  Just how many countries did he visit as an adult before taking office ?  For that matter, just what experience did he have going in in anything that qualified him for POTUS more than Trump ?  What did Obama run or operate ?

So we (the USA) are going to throw the Baltic States under the bus and give them back to Russia ?  Says who ?  And just why is it the responsibility of the USA (only) ?  Can't the EU defend itself without the help of again, the USA ?  If so why not ?  

Its time that everyone starts pulling their own weight.  The USA spent the entire 20th Century saving the world from itself and what have we got in return ?  Hate is all.

The NWO and all the Globalists can go eff themselves. 

If Russia was doing exactly what the US has been doing so close to our borders, we would have none of it. Remember the Cuban missile crisis? We just need to quit meddling in the worlds affairs. Screw NATO

If Russia was doing exactly what the US has been doing so close to our borders, we would have none of it. Remember the Cuban missile crisis? We just need to quit meddling in the worlds affairs. Screw NATO

Are you trying to snark at Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and Obama with that comment? It may not really matter because either in terms of past events or future possibilities, your statement doesn't apply to reality. 

The Soviet Union is not reconstituted nor will it likely ever be even partially. Russia revived in the aughts mostly due to the rising price of oil and its hydrocarbon reserves. Outside of the petrochemical sector it does not have a robust economy, hence its struggles with falling oil and gas prices.  

Russia has defended its traditional territorial interests with interventions in Georgia, Ukraine and Syria (a longtime client state and home to a strategic Russian naval base in Tartus), but it has nowhere near the military might of the former USSR. The People's Republic of China is a far, far greater economic and military power.  

And if you blame the US for the decline of NATO, you'd be better off looking at the lack of contribution and cooperation from its European member states. As for the "renewed arms race" bit...what are you basing that on?

But here: let's turn the tables on you, Scott. Do you seriously think Trump has the background knowledge, advisors or detailed policy to counter any increase in Russia's influence over Europe? Beyond making noises about forcing European partners to contribute to NATO, what are Trump's plans for the organization? Is Trump seriously going to hang Estonia out to dry as he suggested in his campaign comments?

Hope you don't mind waiting for answers to those questions from the incoming administration because right now Trump has no f#$^ing clue. This emperor doesn't even have a loincloth when it comes to foreign policy. 
 

Howzabout the reconstitution of the Soviet Union in light of a weakened NATO, followed by a renewed arms race?  Would that qualify?

Trump talked a lot of smack.....

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. We are still paying the price for their mistakes. Trump is so ignorant of international affairs and so lazy that we're bound to see another foreign policy disaster.  

What happened to "drain the swamp", and "change washington" and "he may not be the best, but I'm ready to blow things up" (that last one is a paraphrase of stuff you put out over the last year)?  Do you not care now that "your guy" has won?  

I can't wait to see what comes about this time next year or 2019, when you are realizing that you got played. You'll have more of the same - people in power enriching themselves while the little guy continues to get screwed. I'm sure you'll find a way to say you are better off, but in your heart you'll know that nothing really changed.