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Nov 14, 2016 - 7:23am
"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
Part of me is not too worried about him, since an inevitable scenario is the gradual loss of support by the folks who really expected him to do what he said he would. When he doesn't, will they be angry?
But, as a mental practice, I'm trying to not get angry about the results of the election. So much of it is "look what he's going to do!" but, really, he's done nothing so far. This is us creating a straw man, and then knocking it down. Not fair to criticize a future that doesn't exist, but only might.
Once he starts to screw things up, we should all begin showing our dissatisfaction - but not until it really happens.
Oh, I wasn't talking about the policy stuff, I just think you need to look at what happened to Christie to see how easy it is to get sent to the Gulag. Sure, Christie gave him a good cover story with BridgeGate but that wouldn't make any difference if Trump wanted to keep him. And if I were a tradesman in America, I wouldn't work on one of his projects unless I got paid up front and had an iron-clad contract so I wouldn't get sued. Maybe he won't go through aids as fast as he did in the campaign but his track record is already screwed up from that perspective.
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Nov 13, 2016 - 9:12pm
Steely_D wrote:
Part of me is not too worried about him, since an inevitable scenario is the gradual loss of support by the folks who really expected him to do what he said he would. When he doesn't, will they be angry?
But, as a mental practice, I'm trying to not get angry about the results of the election. So much of it is "look what he's going to do!" but, really, he's done nothing so far. This is us creating a straw man, and then knocking it down. Not fair to criticize a future that doesn't exist, but only might.
Once he starts to screw things up, we should all begin showing our dissatisfaction - but not until it really happens.
Well, the dust is settling a bit. I do think it is quite reasonable to be apprehensive, anxious even, about what he said he would do. Roll back pretty much everything Obama has done, plus SCOTUS concerns. Certainly, though, actions are the focus. But he will have to exercise a dramatic change/reversal of his campaign issues to ease my concern.
I guess what surprises me is how many savvy business and Washington types are willing to have anything to do with his administration, knowing his track record with subcontractors, employees, and partners.
Part of me is not too worried about him, since an inevitable scenario is the gradual loss of support by the folks who really expected him to do what he said he would. When he doesn't, will they be angry?
But, as a mental practice, I'm trying to not get angry about the results of the election. So much of it is "look what he's going to do!" but, really, he's done nothing so far. This is us creating a straw man, and then knocking it down. Not fair to criticize a future that doesn't exist, but only might.
Once he starts to screw things up, we should all begin showing our dissatisfaction - but not until it really happens.
I guess what surprises me is how many savvy business and Washington types are willing to have anything to do with his administration, knowing his track record with subcontractors, employees, and partners.
Actually I don't think so, we will see when our relationship with Russia unfolds.
It's not so much our relationship with Russia, but our relationship with NATO. The scary part of this to me is it has a lot of involvement with the various berxitieers all over Europe. As France, Italy, Latvia, Turkey et. all split from from the idea of unity and move toward isolationist protectionism, they become collectively weaker. As Russia looks to a foreign entanglement to distract from their internal problems and satisfy Putin's conquest lust, all it takes is us not backing our NATO partners to make Europe a very messy situation. The EU has it's problems, but there hasn't been a war on the continent in a long time and that is largely because of the Union. This is a long trail of dominoes, but the last one falls on our shore and ends up with a lot of dead soldiers (and possibly civilians too).
It will be interesting to see where Cuba winds up in this again. History repeats and all.
Actually I don't think so, we will see when our relationship with Russia unfolds.
Not necessarily behind the curtain pulling some strings but taking advantage of the situation. During the Cold War the USSR gave support to left wing anti-war groups in both Europe and the USA like Russia now with right wing groups. Both Trump and current and former Trump staff people have associations in Russia. But again, what does Trump want with it all? Maybe he's using them just like they are using him.
Is Vladimir Putin (whom Pat Buchanan once asked, "Is Putin one of us?") one of the men behind the curtain? Putin has given support to right-wing Euro groups.
Actually I don't think so, we will see when our relationship with Russia unfolds.
Yea, I have been watching this and am not very pleased to say the least. This is not a good sign for those of us who follow foreign policy and long for some sanity.The MIC gotta get paid, looks like any hope of thinking Trump might not be owned is now gone. The old men behind the curtain got their way after all..........
Is Vladimir Putin (whom Pat Buchanan once asked, "Is Putin one of us?") one of the men behind the curtain? Putin has given support to right-wing Euro groups.
Not sure what to make of all this,... . * Marion Marechal-Le Pen, niece of France’s anti-immigration National Front leader Marine Le Pen, says she’ll accept an invitation to work with top aide to U.S. President-Elect Donald Trump. Marechal-Le Pen, 26, is a French member of parliament, granddaughter of National Front founder Jean-Marie Le Pen, her tweet below
I answer yes to the invitation of Stephen Bannon, CEO of @realDonaldTrump presidential campaign, to work together. . Also,.... . Nigel Farage, leader of the UK Independence Party met with Trump yesterday and tweeted this
So, what does all this mean? Before the election there was a lot of speculation about Trump's after election future. One being that he was going to start some sort of Trump TV network. It seemed like a credible idea with Steve Bannon's Breitbart website and Roger Ailes' tutelage and Kellyanne Conway as an on air personality. Or a quasi political party where Trump could become a King maker, a Trump endosement could help a lot of politicians But Trump won, so what's up? Trump spoke of "this movement" in his victory speech Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. What and/or who is this movement? If you have ever read anything on Breitbart, especially reader comments it sounds more akin to a bowel movement. Louisiana senate candidate and KKK leader David Duke has claimed credit for putting Trump over the top in the election. I assume he wants his reward. But what is in it for Trump? Money? Power? What is motivating him? There is a lot of speculation about who will be Trump's White House Cheif of Staff and that decision will shed more light on it. At first it looked like Reince Priebus had the inside track but with Priebus being a Paul Ryan ally from Wisconsin he may not have Trump's back 100%, GOP-RINO-NeoCon policy is Ryan & Priebus' first priority. Now Steve Bannon is being considered for the job, and is "this movement" Bannon's first priority?
WTF is going on?!?
Yea, I have been watching this and am not very pleased to say the least. This is not a good sign for those of us who follow foreign policy and long for some sanity.The MIC gotta get paid, looks like any hope of thinking Trump might not be owned is now gone. The old men behind the curtain got their way after all..........
Not sure what to make of all this,... . * Marion Marechal-Le Pen, niece of France’s anti-immigration National Front leader Marine Le Pen, says she’ll accept an invitation to work with top aide to U.S. President-Elect Donald Trump. Marechal-Le Pen, 26, is a French member of parliament, granddaughter of National Front founder Jean-Marie Le Pen, her tweet below
I answer yes to the invitation of Stephen Bannon, CEO of @realDonaldTrump presidential campaign, to work together. . Also,.... . Nigel Farage, leader of the UK Independence Party met with Trump yesterday and tweeted this
So, what does all this mean? Before the election there was a lot of speculation about Trump's after election future. One being that he was going to start some sort of Trump TV network. It seemed like a credible idea with Steve Bannon's Breitbart website and Roger Ailes' tutelage and Kellyanne Conway as an on air personality. Or a quasi political party where Trump could become a King maker, a Trump endosement could help a lot of politicians But Trump won, so what's up? Trump spoke of "this movement" in his victory speech Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. What and/or who is this movement? If you have ever read anything on Breitbart, especially reader comments it sounds more akin to a bowel movement. Louisiana senate candidate and KKK leader David Duke has claimed credit for putting Trump over the top in the election. I assume he wants his reward. But what is in it for Trump? Money? Power? What is motivating him? There is a lot of speculation about who will be Trump's White House Cheif of Staff and that decision will shed more light on it. At first it looked like Reince Priebus had the inside track but with Priebus being a Paul Ryan ally from Wisconsin he may not have Trump's back 100%, GOP-RINO-NeoCon policy is Ryan & Priebus' first priority. Now Steve Bannon is being considered for the job, and is "this movement" Bannon's first priority?
Any surprises concerning the names floated? For me, not at all. Let's be honest, Trump has no political experience and is having to put together a team. He'll be delegating a lot. In my mind, he was always going to pick Washington insiders as who else was going to show him the ropes? All his talk of being an outsider as his sales pitch is fine and dandy when he described himself, but IMO the writing was on the wall regarding what he would have to do regarding his staff.
He can get guys with spears to kill the alligators.
To fix the bigger problems he needs guys with(figurative) guns,and that's the people who know how to work the system to achieve his goals,which I think will surprise a lot of people.(If he doesn't get lynched for having a big mouth,the brute).
So how do you feel about his team and potential cabinet so far? From here it looks like a mix of insiders and lobbyists (all sycophants). He's already walking back commitments (probably good). You don't "drain the swamp", by inviting the mayor of swamptown to join your team.
Any surprises concerning the names floated? For me, not at all. Let's be honest, Trump has no political experience and is having to put together a team. He'll be delegating a lot. In my mind, he was always going to pick Washington insiders as who else was going to show him the ropes? All his talk of being an outsider as his sales pitch is fine and dandy when he described himself, but IMO the writing was on the wall regarding what he would have to do regarding his staff.
So how do you feel about his team and potential cabinet so far? From here it looks like a mix of insiders and lobbyists (all sycophants). He's already walking back commitments (probably good). You don't "drain the swamp", by inviting the mayor of swamptown to join your team.
I'm in a wait and see mode on his cabinet. We've heard all kinds of names floating around, but nothing reliable yet. No leaks is a good sign imo for starters. Tells me how good the people and the organization are. Trump is all about loyalty, both ways. We do see Christie being gently but assuredly being moved to the side because of Bridgegate thing. So DJT gets liabilities and associations. I'll be able to size them up pretty well cuz more than likely I've at least seen whoever they might be a couple of times on FBN. Not to be confused with FNC. Its business oriented with a dash of libertarianism.
But ... If we take Trump with the best of expectations, hiring the mayor is not a bad thing. First, it takes one to know one, which is part of the premise for my original support of Trump. Second, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Or third and probably the least desirable ... fight fire with fire.
The man seems to be able to get along with anyone so far. He's been building or rebuilding relationships, talking to both sides of the aisle. He's even spoke with the likes of Jeb, Mitt and our gov, Kasich, who I have an extremely low opinion of now.
. or I could be completely wrong and bought a load of shit. It'll all move fast. Still optimistic. So who deals with the protesters ? The current POTUS or the new one ? Personally, I think Hillary and Obama should at least hold one press conference to tell them to knock it off and go home. They are the ones still in charge and the ones who are the beneficiaries of the protests (at least on paper so far) Probably won't be heeded, but they have to go through the motions one more time.
The MIC gotta get paid, looks like any hope of thinking Trump might not be owned is now gone. The old men behind the curtain got their way after all..........
