The current conversation centers around US citizens who are toddlers whose parents are illegals. Better to take the children from their parents or keep the family unit together ?
This is a grey area and involves the notion of anchor babies and so called birthright citizenship. Birthright citizenship is headed to the SCOTUS. I have been aware of this anchor baby problem from the 60's having been born and raised in a border state that was subject to this problem since then and before. It was wrong then and is wrong now. That has consistently been my position for over 55 years. Longer than many of you have been alive or at least before you were out of diapers.
Well... since you've known about it so long... I mean, sure... I guess it makes sense we should ignore the rule that's been around 182 years longer than your concerns.
âAll persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
So you fall back on "Headed to the SCOTUS?" How exactly do you think they are going to read that? Well...since the parents are illegals, the rights of the child granted by the Constitution don't matter? Of course they won't.
So in a trial setting, you know....DUE PROCESS... you get a judge to say "your child has the right to stay, but you can't". Leave the child with an aunt, a cousin, a friend, the state... do whatever you want, but you have 15 days to leave the US...with or without the child. The US doesn't deport citizens...full stop!
Your repeated ignorance of the parts of the Constitution that you don't like is tiring. Do you agree with the whole document or not?
Make a choice, and if you agree with law and order as defined in the document, why will you never call out the current administrations joyful ignorance of those laws?
Your support of these actions invalidates your right to be treated with respect. You twat.
Instead of just saying "yeah, it's wrong to deport citizens without due process"... blame Biden and deflect. There isn't any engagement from Kurt, just propaganda.
The current conversation centers around US citizens who are toddlers whose parents are illegals. Better to take the children from their parents or keep the family unit together ?
This is a grey area and involves the notion of anchor babies and so called birthright citizenship. Birthright citizenship is headed to the SCOTUS. I have been aware of this anchor baby problem from the 60's having been born and raised in a border state that was subject to this problem since then and before. It was wrong then and is wrong now. That has consistently been my position for over 55 years. Longer than many of you have been alive or at least before you were out of diapers.
Meanwhile there are still several hundred thousand missing children that crossed the border under Biden's tenure.
And so we are supposed to separate mothers from their children now ? I thought that that was a no go established under the first Trump term. Oh, what howling we had.
This whole fuster cluck is the sole responsibility of the democrats with their open border policy the previous 4 years. We had an invasion of at least 12 million illegals. With the deliberate intent of overwhelming the system making removal unworkable due to at the very least, limited resources across the board. Hence Trump's remarks that it would take 200 years to deal with everyone, one at a time. Things are going to go wrong trying to deal with 12 million new invaders not to mention the 20 million already here. These are the consequences, the intended consequences, designed to create this humanitarian crises.
So don't bitch at Trump, bitch at the democrats for creating this mess. It has become well established that we did not need new laws to secure the border as so many have claimed. We just needed a new POTUS and the will to get it done.
All of you who supported this invasion have no right to complain about the cleanup. Your support of the invasion invalidates your right to complain now.
At what point does the 2nd amendment and "I was afraid for my life" cross with this policy? I have no doubt that there would be a very large amount of gunfire, and the 'person of interest' would not survive, but a couple of those and we might see an end to the stupid policy.
I've seen some comments about 2A and tyranny aimed at the MAGA faithful.
But they're likely in I-don't-care-I-got-nothing-to-hide mode.
At what point does the 2nd amendment and "I was afraid for my life" cross with this policy? I have no doubt that there would be a very large amount of gunfire, and the 'person of interest' would not survive, but a couple of those and we might see an end to the stupid policy.
Meanwhile there are still several hundred thousand missing children that crossed the border under Biden's tenure.
And so we are supposed to separate mothers from their children now ? I thought that that was a no go established under the first Trump term. Oh, what howling we had.
This whole fuster cluck is the sole responsibility of the democrats with their open border policy the previous 4 years. We had an invasion of at least 12 million illegals. With the deliberate intent of overwhelming the system making removal unworkable due to at the very least, limited resources across the board. Hence Trump's remarks that it would take 200 years to deal with everyone, one at a time. Things are going to go wrong trying to deal with 12 million new invaders not to mention the 20 million already here. These are the consequences, the intended consequences, designed to create this humanitarian crises.
So don't bitch at Trump, bitch at the democrats for creating this mess. It has become well established that we did not need new laws to secure the border as so many have claimed. We just needed a new POTUS and the will to get it done.
All of you who supported this invasion have no right to complain about the cleanup. Your support of the invasion invalidates your right to complain now.
Get in the van.
Got ID? Not anymore. Get in the van.
You're a citizen? Get in the van with all the other "citizens". You'll have an opportunity to explain it to your cellmates in CECOT. Get in the van.
Phone call? Not without your phone. Get in the van.
Where are we going? That'll be explained to you when we get there.
At some point ( long ago) it's just a waste of time. There is no reason or logic, just defense of the leader at all cost.
Think about the cognitive dissonance it take to support two diametrically opposed plans from the same person... this week!
During the week when they deported US citizen children, they announced interest in programs to incent population growth. A $5,000 âBaby Bonusâ, Expanded Child Tax Credit, National Medal of Motherhood, and new Educational Programs from the group that deports children, rejects food programs for the needy, and eliminates funding for education?
You can't support the financial programs of the nation without growth, and you aren't growing without immigrants. I'm all for deporting criminals and making the border secure, but it's cheaper to import than it is to "make at home", especially when you don't have willing citizens to deliver what you need. Do you want to grow, or shrink? The "we need to grow with our citizens" answer is not valid. We need help from abroad.
Instead of just saying "yeah, it's wrong to deport citizens without due process"... blame Biden and deflect. There isn't any engagement from Kurt, just propaganda.
You forgot the racial component. They want to grow the population of a particular race, while deporting those of a different race. All of the programs you mentioned can be targeted toward the population you want to prop up.
Your support of these actions invalidates your right to be treated with respect. You twat.
At some point ( long ago) it's just a waste of time. There is no reason or logic, just defense of the leader at all cost.
Think about the cognitive dissonance it take to support two diametrically opposed plans from the same person... this week!
During the week when they deported US citizen children, they announced interest in programs to incent population growth. A $5,000 âBaby Bonusâ, Expanded Child Tax Credit, National Medal of Motherhood, and new Educational Programs from the group that deports children, rejects food programs for the needy, and eliminates funding for education?
You can't support the financial programs of the nation without growth, and you aren't growing without immigrants. I'm all for deporting criminals and making the border secure, but it's cheaper to import than it is to "make at home", especially when you don't have willing citizens to deliver what you need. Do you want to grow, or shrink? The "we need to grow with our citizens" answer is not valid. We need help from abroad.
Instead of just saying "yeah, it's wrong to deport citizens without due process"... blame Biden and deflect. There isn't any engagement from Kurt, just propaganda.
Meanwhile there are still several hundred thousand missing children that crossed the border under Biden's tenure.
And so we are supposed to separate mothers from their children now ? I thought that that was a no go established under the first Trump term. Oh, what howling we had.
This whole fuster cluck is the sole responsibility of the democrats with their open border policy the previous 4 years. We had an invasion of at least 12 million illegals. With the deliberate intent of overwhelming the system making removal unworkable due to at the very least, limited resources across the board. Hence Trump's remarks that it would take 200 years to deal with everyone, one at a time. Things are going to go wrong trying to deal with 12 million new invaders not to mention the 20 million already here. These are the consequences, the intended consequences, designed to create this humanitarian crises.
So don't bitch at Trump, bitch at the democrats for creating this mess. It has become well established that we did not need new laws to secure the border as so many have claimed. We just needed a new POTUS and the will to get it done.
All of you who supported this invasion have no right to complain about the cleanup. Your support of the invasion invalidates your right to complain now.
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Your support of these actions invalidates your right to be treated with respect. You twat.
Just heard an NPR report that there were at least three children CITIZENS deported with minimal or no process.
Meanwhile there are still several hundred thousand missing children that crossed the border under Biden's tenure.
And so we are supposed to separate mothers from their children now ? I thought that that was a no go established under the first Trump term. Oh, what howling we had.
This whole fuster cluck is the sole responsibility of the democrats with their open border policy the previous 4 years. We had an invasion of at least 12 million illegals. With the deliberate intent of overwhelming the system making removal unworkable due to at the very least, limited resources across the board. Hence Trump's remarks that it would take 200 years to deal with everyone, one at a time. Things are going to go wrong trying to deal with 12 million new invaders not to mention the 20 million already here. These are the consequences, the intended consequences, designed to create this humanitarian crises.
So don't bitch at Trump, bitch at the democrats for creating this mess. It has become well established that we did not need new laws to secure the border as so many have claimed. We just needed a new POTUS and the will to get it done.
All of you who supported this invasion have no right to complain about the cleanup. Your support of the invasion invalidates your right to complain now.
