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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 9:50pm

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To be honest, it sounded like the FBI whisked them to a secure location. Maybe they're home, but I'm sure they were interviewed separately before and after they were told their son is dead.


Perhaps, but their silence on their son’s actions with respect to not having released a public statement… IMHO is inexcusable once the breath and scope of what he has done has been made known to them. What are they waiting for? Are they not entirely convinced his actions were criminal or are they trying to figure out how to use Chat GPT to “wordsmith” an ideal apology?

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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 9:42pm


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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 9:16pm

What will Vance do for Trump's foreign policy?
The Ohio senator's ideology is hard to nail down as he has vacillated between restraint and interventionism
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 8:23pm

 VV wrote:

My point is that issuing a statement now is already too late. And what/why are you even bringing up whether they may be liberal or conservative? How does that factor into what I posted? It matters not, human decency would dictate that you would immediately issue a statement disavowing any knowledge of what happened and offering condolences and sympathy for all affected by the heinous act. The longer you wait to do that, the more fake/hollow it will sound when you finally do.


To be honest, it sounded like the FBI whisked them to a secure location. Maybe they're home, but I'm sure they were interviewed separately before and after they were told their son is dead.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 7:55pm

 VV wrote:

My point is that issuing a statement now is already too late. And what/why are you even bringing up whether they may be liberal or conservative? How does that factor into what I posted? It matters not, human decency would dictate that you would immediately issue a statement disavowing any knowledge of what happened and offering condolences and sympathy for all affected by the heinous act. The longer you wait to do that, the more fake/hollow it will sound when you finally do.


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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 7:51pm

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Probably because they have good attorneys.  I am sure they will issue a statement in the near future once the dust settles.  Unless they approve of their son's actions, then it is something else, like aiding and abetting.  They are both IIRC, social workers who as a rule tend to be very, very liberal.

Then again, the family openly owned guns, so all bets on the previous are off.  You and the rest of us will just have to patiently wait for them to speak.

My point is that issuing a statement now is already too late. And what/why are you even bringing up whether they may be liberal or conservative? How does that factor into what I posted? It matters not, human decency would dictate that you would immediately issue a statement disavowing any knowledge of what happened and offering condolences and sympathy for all affected by the heinous act. The longer you wait to do that, the more fake/hollow it will sound when you finally do.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 7:47pm

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And let us not forget that they lost their son as well, regardless of why.  Everyone grieves in different ways.

The parents have a whole lot to digest, legitimately.

Can't imagine needing media hoopla with that.

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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 7:44pm

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Notice how the Coens start with a light-colored story and they gradually get darker and darker in tone.
Flippin genii. I'll watch anything they do. No Country is a masterpiece of modern cinema, hands down. And then there's 
which makes me a Dapper Dan man!


The Big Lebowski was their best film by my lights but yeah for months I walked about warblin' "I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow." Tim Blake and John Turturro were hysterical. 


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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 7:23pm

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 kurtster wrote:
They are both IIRC, social workers who as a rule tend to be very, very liberal. Then again, the family openly owned guns, so all bets on the previous are off.

And Jewish.
 
And let us not forget that they lost their son as well, regardless of why.  Everyone grieves in different ways.

The parents have a whole lot to digest, legitimately.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 7:07pm

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They are both IIRC, social workers who as a rule tend to be very, very liberal.

Then again, the family openly owned guns, so all bets on the previous are off.

And Jewish.

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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 7:02pm

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The Ballad of Buster Scruggs! Just watched that story with James Franco the other night. 


Notice how the Coens start with a light-colored story and they gradually get darker and darker in tone.
Flippin genii. I'll watch anything they do. No Country is a masterpiece of modern cinema, hands down. And then there's 

which makes me a Dapper Dan man!
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 6:44pm

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Can’t even hang him. What’s this great nation coming to?




The Ballad of Buster Scruggs! Just watched that story with James Franco the other night. 
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 6:39pm

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They are both IIRC, social workers who as a rule tend to be very, very liberal.

Then again, the family openly owned guns, 


I think the hard core "stupid leftists" crowd doesn't expect that these two could co-exist. But, as Walter White said...

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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 6:22pm

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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 6:10pm

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On a different note, I find it completely unconscionable that (unless I missed it) we have not seen Thomas Crooks' parents issue any family statement disavowing any involvement with their son's actions and profusely apologizing for the results of those actions.
 
It doesn't change anything, but there are certain things that just need to be done...
 
How is it that these people have been able to go effectively underground and to duck all tv cameras? 
 
Probably because they have good attorneys.  I am sure they will issue a statement in the near future once the dust settles.  Unless they approve of their son's actions, then it is something else, like aiding and abetting.  They are both IIRC, social workers who as a rule tend to be very, very liberal.

Then again, the family openly owned guns, so all bets on the previous are off.  You and the rest of us will just have to patiently wait for them to speak.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 5:11pm

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Right. I'm wondering if he'll be able to bite his tongue for 4 years. Other smart people have corrected him before and they were fired the next day. Can't fire the Veep.


Can’t even hang him. What’s this great nation coming to?


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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 4:04pm

You can't prosecute someone for crimes if they're running for president because that's election interference. Also, the voters should decide, not the court.

You can't prosecute a sitting president, because the office comes with total immunity.

You can't remove a president from office, because immunity nullifies the very concept of "high crimes and misdemeanors." Well, okay, MAYBE technically you could, but you'd have to get the members of the president's own party who sit in Congress to agree to impeachment when the president has "total immunity." This is where I'll refer you to January 6, 2021, and the results of impeachment BEFORE a president was judged to have immunity and when what he did was agreed by nearly all members of congress to be a crime. Best of luck. Also, the voters should decide.

And you can't prosecute a former president because that's "unconstitutional"

A president (prospective, sitting, or former) does not answer to the people, the Court, or Congress.

Even Kings face more accountability than a US president.

What's that?

Oh, that only applies to Trump? To a Republican?

Yeah, you're probably right. Not because these new rulings don't apply to Biden and Democrats as well, but because their morals, sense of duty, and belief in The Republic won't let them take advantage of it.

Republicans labor under no such self-imposed restrictions and we've literally — and I mean LITERALLY — carved out a special exemption from the law, from accountability, from responsibility, from ethics, from morality, from civility, from basic human decency, for one man: Donald J. Trump.

He is immune from every restriction our nation imposes on every single other member of our society.

Likely including the laws of nature.

~Jim Wright
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 3:58pm

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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 3:53pm

 kcar wrote:

There's a chance he'll upstage Trump—younger, fitter, better-looking, articulate 


Right. I'm wondering if he'll be able to bite his tongue for 4 years. Other smart people have corrected him before and they were fired the next day. Can't fire the Veep.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 3:50pm

 rgio wrote:

Vances wife.



Wow, that's a stretch. A lawyer who's also first generation American whose parents are from India. That didn't work for Nikki Haley. 
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