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westslope

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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 3:47pm



 islander wrote:
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Hmmm... I'd say the overall message of the song as an anti-war ballad is stronger than a single use of a now inappropriate word. But I've always been overly sensitive to bombing women and children. 
 
Bombing grandfathers never held much appeal for me either.

The USA did help clinch victory in WW II by deliberating targeting civilians in German and Japanese industrial cities.  If not so much the Imperial Japanese army, the Germany Nazi regime clearly posed an existential threat.  Justified.

The American and Israeli War on Terror though leaves much to be desired.  Both countries should erect monuments to terrorism as terrorism played a key part in both countries' nation building processes.  

The 'War on Terror' is just another indication of how easy it is manipulate ordinary folks.  Curious how those who support the 'War on Terror' often readily support political violence. or the deliberate targeting of civilians under the guise of the so-called 'War on Terror'.  

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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 3:39pm

 laozilover wrote:

11 months ago IMArlo wrote in the song comments "Bill just mentioned that they might put this song away any year now, permanently, due to its political incorrectness.  My PI radar might be out of tune.  What does he refer to?", to which someone responded that it was Arlo's use of the  word "faggot" (as meaning something other than a bundle of sticks).

 
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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 2:42pm

So sad. A protest song by definition ought not be politically correct. If the potential to offend or be politically incorrect was the reason for ending this tradition, then I am offended by the attempt to moderate and tone down the sometimes grit that once was one of the hallmarks of RP. 

I suppose all things change. But this was one small tradition that always brought a tear to my eyes, recalling the days when it was first sung and not too often played on commercial radio. Makes me serisouly consider withdrawing my longstanding financial support and send those pennies to another cause. It was a nice long run.
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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 1:11pm

 islander wrote:


 laozilover wrote:

11 months ago IMArlo wrote in the song comments "Bill just mentioned that they might put this song away any year now, permanently, due to its political incorrectness.  My PI radar might be out of tune.  What does he refer to?", to which someone responded that it was Arlo's use of the  word "faggot" (as meaning something other than a bundle of sticks).
 

Hmmm... I'd say the overall message of the song as an anti-war ballad is stronger than a single use of a now inappropriate word. But I've always been overly sensitive to bombing women and children. 

 
Yeah, I believe meaning needs to consider context and the context of the draft during a lousy war is pretty incorrect. 
islander

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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 1:07pm



 laozilover wrote:

11 months ago IMArlo wrote in the song comments "Bill just mentioned that they might put this song away any year now, permanently, due to its political incorrectness.  My PI radar might be out of tune.  What does he refer to?", to which someone responded that it was Arlo's use of the  word "faggot" (as meaning something other than a bundle of sticks).
 

Hmmm... I'd say the overall message of the song as an anti-war ballad is stronger than a single use of a now inappropriate word. But I've always been overly sensitive to bombing women and children. 
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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 12:59pm

 swell_sailor wrote:

I was able to find it under artists/arlo, so it’s still on the list. Hoping to hear it today.

 
11 months ago IMArlo wrote in the song comments "Bill just mentioned that they might put this song away any year now, permanently, due to its political incorrectness.  My PI radar might be out of tune.  What does he refer to?", to which someone responded that it was Arlo's use of the  word "faggot" (as meaning something other than a bundle of sticks).
dirtbagpook

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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 12:21pm

Drats! I was looking around for it as well. If music is memories with a melody, then this song goes out to Leonard Crippen, where ever you are!
I vote to bring it back. Just my 2 cents.
Safe travels and Happy Thanksgiving!
 
swell_sailor

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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 12:21pm

 nevar23 wrote:
Hearing Alice's Restaurant on RP has been part of my T-Day tradition for years now so I'm a little sad if it's been discontinued. I know it's not really a big deal in the scheme of things, but yeah.

 
I was able to find it under artists/arlo, so it’s still on the list. Hoping to hear it today.
nevar23

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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 12:11pm

Hearing Alice's Restaurant on RP has been part of my T-Day tradition for years now so I'm a little sad if it's been discontinued. I know it's not really a big deal in the scheme of things, but yeah.
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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 12:10pm

 islander wrote:


 JrzyTmata wrote:
a search for the song, looks like Bill retired it.
 

 
End times. 

Seems inappropriate to retire it while there is still war and killin' and mean and nasty  stuff going on. 

 
I look forward to this every year.  There's no one here on Thanksgiving anymore except me.  What a bum deal.
islander

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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 12:05pm



 JrzyTmata wrote:
a search for the song, looks like Bill retired it.
 

 
End times. 

Seems inappropriate to retire it while there is still war and killin' and mean and nasty  stuff going on. 


joanie

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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 12:02pm

I thought I somehow missed it. I’ve been waiting for it. We’ve just got to have our fix of Alice’s Restaurant!
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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 11:36am

a search for the song, looks like Bill retired it.
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Posted: Nov 22, 2018 - 11:33am

did it play this year? I didn't see it on the playlist.
We're watching the movie right now
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Posted: Nov 29, 2015 - 8:08am

Trying to fix the date thing.
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Posted: Nov 26, 2015 - 8:40pm

In case you missed it...


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Posted: Nov 26, 2015 - 3:49pm

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Apocalyptic Update


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Posted: Nov 26, 2015 - 10:43am

PBS stations are showing the 50th Anniversary Alice's Restaurant concert this weekend. Check your local listings.
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Posted: Nov 26, 2015 - 9:16am

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Posted: Nov 26, 2015 - 9:11am

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