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Posted: Nov 18, 2021 - 9:37am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


No no no that can't be; he's singlehandedly killed the oil and coal and gas industries, didn't you hear? Drilling in Wyoming is way up, but when I mention that, people come back with some reason that's not a valid rebuttal to the Plain Fact That Biden Killed America™


I have some dental floss leases you may be interested in...
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Posted: Nov 18, 2021 - 9:35am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

No no no that can't be; he's singlehandedly killed the oil and coal and gas industries, didn't you hear? Drilling in Wyoming is way up, but when I mention that, people come back with some reason that's not a valid rebuttal to the Plain Fact That Biden Killed America™
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Posted: Nov 18, 2021 - 5:09am

The Biden administration sold oil and gas leases days after the climate summit
Jiggz



Posted: Nov 2, 2021 - 8:44am

 westslope wrote:

Well, I guess there are lots of violence loving, anti-democratic pieces of human turd floating around.   

Too many of them are simple racist trash.



Oh, spare me that typical lefty response....chucking the rascist, bottom feeder, mouth breather, deplorable, violence loving, anti-democratic, white supremacist, domestic terrorist blah-blah pack of cards down.
Next you'll be claiming to be a victim of something and asking BIll to chuck me off this platform.

So very predictable.

Have a nice day wherever you are, mate.
I hope it goes well for you and yours.

I don't know you but I still feel sad for you.
Be cool.

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Posted: Nov 2, 2021 - 8:13am

Well, I guess there are lots of violence loving, anti-democratic pieces of human turd floating around.   

Too many of them are simple racist trash.
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Posted: Nov 2, 2021 - 3:29am

 steeler wrote:


Seems sophomoric.



I'm not sure what you mean...do you mean like the anti-Trump stuff that came before, starting from de Niro forwards. Maybe even before that....'there'll never be a Trump presidency, hahaha'....or 'basket of deplorables'....or Hitler or Nazi or Grifter-in-Chief.......you mean that sort of thing?
Or do you mean the media baking the bullshit into the cake starting in Biden's basement and social media doing the gas torch caramelisation of the sugar on top?

The fact is that, sophomoric or not, it has become something symbolic  to millions of people all over the world that perfectly illustrates a lot of what they see and experience as being wrong in the world today, and Joe Biden is the figurehead symbol of all that that results in.
80-million votes, the most popular president in history...yeh right.
"Let's go, Brandon!"
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Posted: Nov 2, 2021 - 3:14am

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You nailed it...it has as much to do with Biden as it does with the ....depraved is the word I keep coming up with but I am not sure that it is the right word.... media, both legacy and digital, desperately trying to prop the old codger up, as they did from the beginning of his candidacy.
Except with this example the obvious desperation and and dishonesty are plain to see.
It's a perfect example of the media making up bullshit to fit their narrative, and suggests the question 'what else are they or have they been lying about?'
2020 election results, vaccine, Ivermectin....even matters dating from before the 2020 elections......Biden latest poll results....who knows?

Whatever, it's now being chanted by crowds in Rome, Melbourne, Paris......your super-Presidential guy and your country are basically the laughing stock of the world.....you'll get the picture if you let yourself think about it.

Facediapers, I mean masks, printed "Let's go, Brandon!"....coming soon to a store near you. Oh, perhaps not, because shelves are bare and stuff......but you get the drift.


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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 9:25pm


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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 8:14pm

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If so, it's only on the origin, and maybe what it means to him and whatever block sign on to it.  I can see where there is some element of the mixing of the anti-president and anti-media sentiment that I hadn't picked up. But it's really just a unifying meme that the 'in group' thinks is clever. I think you are giving far too much credit to how much thought went into the symbolism. It's a viral meme, Much like Cheetolini and the others that preceded it on the other side.

I'm not the elitist that K thinks I am regardless of which sports I follow (you follow GP racing, where does that put you on the might be an elitist scale?).  I do think this particular meme is interesting in that it tries to make nice the sentiment of 'fuck Joe Biden', when there hasn't been much pulling of rhetoric anywhere else - and I'm sure it wasn't done for pleasantness.   But hey, I don't have a dog in this hunt. I'm surely against most of the Trump Doctorine, but not really a fan of the Democrat platform or process so far either.  It all just looks like another step in the march to the end to me. So I'll not be rooting for either team to go farther down this road.

You don't think it's clever because it comes from the NASCAR right, kinda like people who regularly read the NYT don't detect a leftish bias in it. Eh. And just because it's an accidental gift from the media doesn't mean picking up on it shows no thought. Without its origin it would make no sense at all. It's not so much a witty retort as a gaffe flung back, like (as NPR pointed out this morning} people attaching covfefe to everything Trump.

As for my elite status...MotoGP ranks closer to corn dog than Grey Poupon in Yurp, where it's actually popular. It's sort of the NASCAR of Yurp. In the states it's pretty esoteric, like being a fan of show jumping or AKC agility, but I'd put it between F1 and sailboat racing elitism-wise. On the Budmilob-wine snob scale I'd rate it about brewpub.

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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 6:58pm

 R_P wrote:
How did this ill-behaved 12-year old boy get to look like he is 72 years old?   Is there a special cream?  

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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 4:59pm

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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 4:30pm

 kurtster wrote:

First off, any direct contact islander has with me is only to troll me.  He has no interest in any discussion with me.  He just does it to browbeat me.  There is no honorable intent present, ever.  Period, end of story.




What you call browbeat is what I call setting the record straight. I respond to your nonsense when I feel it needs correcting.  Feel free to keep posting it though, but if it's nonsense I'm sure I'm not the only one that will call you out on it.
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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 4:23pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

He's also dead right.

Ironic that probably the most anti-postmodern poster on these pages has such an astute analysis of the hermaneutics of the phrase.


If so, it's only on the origin, and maybe what it means to him and whatever block sign on to it.  I can see where there is some element of the mixing of the anti-president and anti-media sentiment that I hadn't picked up. But it's really just a unifying meme that the 'in group' thinks is clever. I think you are giving far too much credit to how much thought went into the symbolism. It's a viral meme, Much like Cheetolini and the others that preceded it on the other side.

I'm not the elitist that K thinks I am regardless of which sports I follow (you follow GP racing, where does that put you on the might be an elitist scale?).  I do think this particular meme is interesting in that it tries to make nice the sentiment of 'fuck Joe Biden', when there hasn't been much pulling of rhetoric anywhere else - and I'm sure it wasn't done for pleasantness.   But hey, I don't have a dog in this hunt. I'm surely against most of the Trump Doctorine, but not really a fan of the Democrat platform or process so far either.  It all just looks like another step in the march to the end to me. So I'll not be rooting for either team to go farther down this road.
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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 2:54pm

 kurtster wrote:

First off, any direct contact islander has with me is only to troll me.  He has no interest in any discussion with me.  He just does it to browbeat me.  There is no honorable intent present, ever.  Period, end of story.

So on to the code thing and now you double down and go dog whistle on me to boot.  Dig your hole deeper.  I find the need for your definition of what code means to you because you say mine is incorrect.

And now dog whistle ?  Do you even know what it means ?  How do you define dog whistle ?

In politics, a dog whistle is the use of coded or suggestive language in political messaging to garner support from a particular group without provoking opposition.

I stand corrected. You were trying to provoke.
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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 2:18pm

 haresfur wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

I was being trolled.  I knew the answer before I asked my question.  And by asking for a reference for the notion of why he thought it was a "code" is totally legitimate.  It is not a code for anything.  The meaning is not secret nor hidden.  Never was. 

Nor does ignorance of the expression make it a code.  On the other hand, declaring it a code displays the ignorance of the accuser.


Well that's some revisionist history, right there and I don't need to backscroll far. Nothing in Islander's orignial statement was trolling. Using one statement to mean something else that isn't really what the statement superficially indicates is about the definition of code. Or maybe you prefer dog whistle?
 
First off, any direct contact islander has with me is only to troll me.  He has no interest in any discussion with me.  He just does it to browbeat me.  There is no honorable intent present, ever.  Period, end of story.

So on to the code thing and now you double down and go dog whistle on me to boot.  Dig your hole deeper.  I find the need for your definition of what code means to you because you say mine is incorrect.

And now dog whistle ?  Do you even know what it means ?  How do you define dog whistle ?
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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 11:36am

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..... the hermaneutics of the phrase.

Had to look that word up.   -hehe-

I do not agree with many of Biden's policies but I do regard him as an honourable man of integrity.  Somebody who is more than worthy of being the President of the USA.  

It is a little surprising that so many Americans — ~45% — view a complete of lack of integrity as an important qualification for the top job in the nation.  The times are a changin'.  


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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 11:26am

 kurtster wrote:

This is the only way you can defend Biden ?

100% pure whataboutism.  Doesn't change one thing about Biden.

And this coming from the guy that employed whataboutism in nearly every post defending Trump during his tenure. Pot… meet kettle.

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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 11:03am

 islander wrote:
 


you're funny.

He's also dead right.

Ironic that probably the most anti-postmodern poster on these pages has such an astute analysis of the hermaneutics of the phrase.
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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 10:21pm

 kurtster wrote:

I was being trolled.  I knew the answer before I asked my question.  And by asking for a reference for the notion of why he thought it was a "code" is totally legitimate.  It is not a code for anything.  The meaning is not secret nor hidden.  Never was. 

Nor does ignorance of the expression make it a code.  On the other hand, declaring it a code displays the ignorance of the accuser.


Well that's some revisionist history, right there and I don't need to backscroll far. Nothing in Islander's orignial statement was trolling. Using one statement to mean something else that isn't really what the statement superficially indicates is about the definition of code. Or maybe you prefer dog whistle?
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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 9:19pm

 steeler wrote:

I guess the suggestion is that the rhetoric has been elevated. A finely honed chant to replace the more pedestrian  â€œBuild that wall!,” “CNN sucks,” and, of course, “lock her/him up.” 
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Heady stuff! Satire at its finest!
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Without a platform (and only a cult leader), all you're left with is Democrat Derangement Syndrome.
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