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Posted: Nov 20, 2021 - 12:15pm

Right-Wing Activists, White Supremacists Celebrate Rittenhouse Acquittal
Kyle Rittenhouse—the 18-year-old who shot three protesters, killing two, in Kenosha, Wisconsin, during unrest there last year—was found not guilty on all charges Friday. The verdict was met with celebration from Republican lawmakers, right-wing activists, and white supremacists.

Ahead of the trial, right-wing activists clamored to Rittenhouse’s defense, arguing the teen was being maligned by the media and was in fact a hero. That full-throated defense of Rittenhouse was in keeping with the right’s response in the days following the shooting when Tucker Carlson said Rittenhouse was trying to “maintain order when no one else would,” and then-President Donald Trump said Rittenhouse was acting in self-defense. Far-right groups and white supremacists—from the Proud Boys to the International Conservative Community—have hailed Rittenhouse as a hero since the fatal shooting and used his image for propaganda purposes, Karim Zidan reported for Right Wing Watch.

Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, and Jack Posobiec, senior editor of Human Events and a far-right propagator of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, celebrated Rittenhouse’s acquittal on “The Charlie Kirk Show” Friday. Kirk announced that Rittenhouse would come on to the show in the coming days for an exclusive interview, along with Posobiec.

“Self-defense is a moral and biblical value,” Kirk told his audience.

Posobiec meanwhile encouraged Rittenhouse to “sue the pants off” of everyone, particularly national news outlets and Facebook. On Twitter, he shared an article from Revolver News, which read, “All hail Kyle Rittenhouse, Champion of Antioch, Savior of Kenosha, Slayer of Pedophiles! All hail the conquering hero!” and he promised to send “an entire package of MyPillow products to Kyle Rittenhouse’s mother” (because there’s never a time not to market Mike Lindell’s pillows).

Elected officials’ reactions weren’t any better.“

Be like Kyle. He represents the best of us,” Arizona state Sen. Wendy Rogers tweeted.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, a far-right conspiracy theorist who has made racist videos, called on Rep. Ilhan Omar to apologize to Rittenhouse and Carlson. “Tucker bravely reports truth unlike the state controlled media lies, who cheered on the real domestic terrorists that you financially supported w/bail bond,” she tweeted. (...)

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Posted: Nov 20, 2021 - 12:15pm

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Somebody somewhere will cash in on this.


Mortuaries
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Posted: Nov 20, 2021 - 11:23am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

We could see more guns on the streets

The conservative-leaning US Supreme Court now seems poised to make it easier for people to carry guns in public, based on recent oral arguments over a New York gun control law.The US' civilian population is already the most heavily armed in the world. And our streets could soon become even more violent."A significant portion of the gun safety movement's current agenda is likely to come under attack in the coming years," Adam Winkler, a UCLA law professor and author of "Gunfight: The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America," recently told Newsweek. "I think bans on assault weapons and bans on high-capacity magazines are ripe for the new Supreme Court, with its newly invigorated Second Amendment, to strike down."

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There is more Reality TV-type entertainment coming to the streets of America, brought to you by Americans.  Somebody somewhere will cash in on this.
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Posted: Nov 20, 2021 - 8:26am

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Yeah, says the angry old white man ... {#Rolleyes}
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Posted: Nov 20, 2021 - 7:37am

There's nothing more frightening in America today than an angry White man
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Posted: Nov 19, 2021 - 8:50am

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can't we just tax canada and live happily ever after?
we'll just call it a hockey tax

Don't worry.  Anti-tax, pro-subsidy, unfair trader Joe Biden is about take jobs from Canada and Mexico in the name of combating climate change. 

As Americans appear to have lost their edge, I guess unfair trade practices are to be expected whether it is Trump or Biden.  6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

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Posted: Nov 18, 2021 - 1:46pm

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Good start. Sedition must be punished to show that it shouldn’t ever happen. 
Seems cruel but, fuck your feelings. Lock him up. And by him I mean every single one of those cosplaying assholes who stormed the Capitol building threatening our elected officials including Pelosi, Ocasio-Cortez, and Pence. And the folks on the inside (traitors!) who helped them. 


These folks were trying to overthrow a legitimate USofA election and deserve the punishment that seditionists get. LAW AND ORDER! (Or was that all hypocritical hot air?)

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Posted: Nov 18, 2021 - 1:35pm

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Do you believe the payment of taxes in the USA should be voluntary?



It is for the rich
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Posted: Nov 18, 2021 - 1:23pm

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Not sure why you asked this question based upon my statement.

But I'll play along ... Sure, why not ?   The.gov will just print more money to make up for the tax revenue shortfall.

Cheaper than building more prisons for those who refuse to pay taxes.

OTOH ... since most of those who refuse to pay taxes are generally hard right wingers, just go round up all republicans and lock them up preemptively because they are the ones most likely to refuse to pay.  Problem solved.
 
can't we just tax canada and live happily ever after?
we'll just call it a hockey tax
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Posted: Nov 18, 2021 - 11:32am

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 kurtster wrote:
Then there is the third US court system, the Tax courts, run by the IRS, where the accused starts out presumed to be guilty and must prove their innocence.  The Tax courts can fine you, seize your property and imprison you.

Do you believe the payment of taxes in the USA should be voluntary?

 
Not sure why you asked this question based upon my statement.

But I'll play along ... Sure, why not ?   The.gov will just print more money to make up for the tax revenue shortfall.

Cheaper than building more prisons for those who refuse to pay taxes.

OTOH ... since most of those who refuse to pay taxes are generally hard right wingers, just go round up all republicans and lock them up preemptively because they are the ones most likely to refuse to pay.  Problem solved.
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Posted: Nov 18, 2021 - 8:21am

 kurtster wrote:

.......
Then there is the third US court system, the Tax courts, run by the IRS, where the accused starts out presumed to be guilty and must prove their innocence.  The Tax courts can fine you, seize your property and imprison you.

Do you believe the payment of taxes in the USA should be voluntary?

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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 3:46pm

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Don't forget the immigration courts where people have inadequate access to legal representation and translation and where they will stick a 6 year-old up in front of a judge by themselves.



oh, snap
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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 3:42pm

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Not following this at all.  Alex Jones is not on my radar at all. 

But, if this is a Civil case as opposed to a Criminal case which I suspect it is, the courts, the standards and trial procedures are vastly different.  Civil courts are all about money.  They cannot imprison someone.

Then there is the third US court system
, the Tax courts, run by the IRS, where the accused starts out presumed to be guilty and must prove their innocence.  The Tax courts can fine you, seize your property and imprison you.

Don't forget the immigration courts where people have inadequate access to legal representation and translation and where they will stick a 6 year-old up in front of a judge by themselves.

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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 3:09pm

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 haresfur wrote:


I don't understand the US system.
There still has to be a jury trial to decide damages? To me it would make a lot more sense to have juries decide guilt (except in cases like this where there is a default judgement) then have a judge determine punishment/damages.

Neither do many Americans.   Settlement by jury is an open invitation to opportunistic litigation.

 
Not following this at all.  Alex Jones is not on my radar at all. 

But, if this is a Civil case as opposed to a Criminal case which I suspect it is, the courts, the standards and trial procedures are vastly different.  Civil courts are all about money.  They cannot imprison someone.

Then there is the third US court system, the Tax courts, run by the IRS, where the accused starts out presumed to be guilty and must prove their innocence.  The Tax courts can fine you, seize your property and imprison you.
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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 2:44pm

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I don't understand the US system.
There still has to be a jury trial to decide damages? To me it would make a lot more sense to have juries decide guilt (except in cases like this where there is a default judgement) then have a judge determine punishment/damages.

Neither do many Americans.   Settlement by jury is an open invitation to opportunistic litigation.

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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 2:42pm

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I hope he ends up living in a carboard box under an overpass somewhere.


Only if I can send condolences and flowers to the overpass.
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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 2:15pm

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Was that a felony conviction? If so, a rather inefficient way to keep guns out out of the hands of wackos, but a start.
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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 2:14pm

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No



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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 2:12pm

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we got him!
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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 2:12pm

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It's not one system, it's 51. He was sued in Connecticut so they use the system there. 

In a sense the cases haven't yet gone to court: he refused to comply with orders to turn over information to the plaintiffs, so the judge ruled he lost the case by default. The same thing happened when he was sued in Texas. So now the trials start without the need to find him liable, just how much he has to pay.


That still doesn't address the absurd to me issue of juries deciding damages. The big problem is that they have no big-picture understanding of precedents and what would be appropriate so the system becomes even more arbitrary than having different judges in different states decide. I feel the same way about criminal trials - let the judge hand down judgement as to whether someone gets the death penalty.
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