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westslope

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Posted: Aug 3, 2022 - 4:45pm

 R_P wrote:

ماذا عن بعض الأسلحة النووية ، العم جو؟




How about some nukes, Uncle Joe?


Non.  Pas de tout.  That would remove the Israeli regional nuclear weapons monopoly.  Israel apparently 'needs' those weapons to help it gobble up the West Bank.  Israel does not seek any regional competition.  

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Posted: Aug 3, 2022 - 12:02pm

ماذا عن بعض الأسلحة النووية ، العم جو؟


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Posted: Aug 3, 2022 - 10:46am

'sup w/this
https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-...-idINS0N2Y004M

Quote:
U.S. approves potential sale of Patriot missiles to Saudi Arabia -Pentagon
By Reuters Staff

Aug 2 (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department has approved the potential sale of Patriot missiles and related equipment to Saudi Arabia in a deal valued at up to $3.05 billion, the Pentagon said on Tuesday.


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Posted: Jun 12, 2022 - 8:07pm

Joe Biden's Submissive — and Highly Revealing — Embrace of Saudi Despots (Greenwald)
Biden's immediate abandonment of his 2020 vow to turn the Saudis into "pariahs," and his increasing support for the regime, shows the core deceit of U.S. propaganda.
The unstinting support of the Saudi regime by the Obama/Biden White House was not limited to obsequious gestures such as these. Their devotion to strengthening the despotic Saudi ruling family was far more substantial — and deadly. Obama's administration played a vital role in empowering the Saudi attack on Yemen, which created the world's worst humanitarian crisis: far worse than what has been taking place in Ukraine since the Russian invasion on February 24. In order to assuage the Saudis over his Iran deal, “Obama’s administration has offered Saudi Arabia more than $115 billion in weapons, other military equipment and training, the most of any U.S. administration in the 71-year U.S.-Saudi alliance,” reported Reuters in late 2016, just months before Obama and Biden left office.

Beyond the enormous cache of sophisticated weapons Obama/Biden transferred to the Saudis to use against Yemen and anyone else they decided to target, the Snowden archive revealed that Obama ordered significant increases in the amount and type of intelligence technologies and raw intelligence provided by the NSA to the Saudi regime. That intelligence was — and is — used by Saudi autocrats not only to identify Yemeni bombing targets but also to subject its own domestic population to rigid, virtually ubiquitous, surveillance: a regime of monitoring used to brutally suppress any dissent or opposition to the Saudi regime.

In sum, no hyperbole is required to observe that the Obama/Biden White House — along with their junior British counterparts — was singularly responsible for the ability of the Saudi regime to survive and to wage this devastating war in Yemen. But that is nothing new. The centerpiece of U.S. policy in the Middle East for decades has been to prop up Saudi despots with weapons and diplomatic protection in exchange for the Saudis serving U.S. interests with their oil supply and ensuring the use of the American dollar as the reserve currency on the oil market.

That is what made the hysterical reaction to Trump's reaffirmation of that relationship so nonsensical and deliberately deceitful. Trump was not wildly deviating from U.S. policy by embracing Saudi tyrants but simply continuing long-standing U.S. policy of embracing all sorts of savage despots all over the world whenever doing so advanced U.S. interests. Indeed, what angered the permanent ruling class in Washington was not Trump's policy of embracing the ruling Saudi monarchs, but rather his honesty and candor about why he was doing so. American presidents are not supposed to admit explicitly that they are overlooking the human rights abuses of their allies due to the benefits that relationship provides, even though that amoral, self-interested approach is and for decades has been exactly the foundational ideological premise of the bipartisan U.S. foreign policy class.

But this has been the core propagandistic framework employed by the DC ruling class since Trump was inaugurated. They routinely depicted him as an unprecedentedly monstrous figure who has vandalized American values in ways that would have been unthinkable for prior American presidents when, in fact, he was doing nothing more than affirming decades-old policy, albeit with greater candor, without the obfuscating mask used by American presidents to deceive the public about how Washington functions.

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Posted: Jun 4, 2022 - 12:14pm

We are in WWIII now I truly believe.
If FDR can sit down with Stalin then we ain't to good to get this new terrorist in Moscow defeated.
But the last time Biden met with the Saudis he blew off the crazy murdering prince and dealt with the old man who also doesn't like his own relative. 
Turn on FOX high gas prices are killing us, so they should be cheering for Biden to get their F-150s & Silverados a cheaper fill up.
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Posted: Jun 4, 2022 - 11:13am

 kurtster wrote:

More whataboutism.

I guess its okay when its about Trump though, right ?


The Trump loved the Saudis. Biden will learn to love them (again) too. They got money and oil.

Buying oil from authoritarian regimes is unconscionable unless it's expedient.
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Posted: Jun 4, 2022 - 10:33am

More whataboutism.

I guess its okay when its about Trump though, right ?
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Posted: Jun 4, 2022 - 7:46am

 rgio wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
Better to send our money overseas to people that do not like us than keep it at home and benefit ourselves.
The money does help Americans.  Ask Jared how much he appreciates his $2Billion.  It's assumed that $50k per month paid for Hunter's influence, what do you get for 3,300 years of $50/k per month all at once from Jared?   $2B....they LOVE US!!!!
 
Gotta feel good about patriots like Jared getting paid for all the hard work he and his Father-In-Law has done for America.
But nooooooooooo Biden has F-ed it up for everyone, including our heroes like Putin.

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Posted: Jun 4, 2022 - 5:57am

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Better to send our money overseas to people that do not like us than keep it at home and benefit ourselves.


The money does help Americans.  Ask Jared how much he appreciates his $2Billion.  It's assumed that $50k per month paid for Hunter's influence, what do you get for 3,300 years of $50/k per month all at once from Jared?  

$2B....they LOVE US!!!!

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Posted: Jun 4, 2022 - 5:43am

The patriots in the American oil industry have decided that what's best for the oil industry is best for America.
Just ask Ted Cruz and all the other patriots in Texas. 
Everybody loves America!!!
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Posted: Jun 3, 2022 - 10:37pm

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Yeah, kiss anyone's ass so we don't have to use our own oil.

Better to send our money overseas to people that do not like us than keep it at home and benefit ourselves.

Biden's America Last policy ...


Really. Just let the prices go up so much that the US companies decide it is worthwhile to open up more production. #SnarkInCaseYouDontKnow
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Posted: Jun 3, 2022 - 9:49pm

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Biden to Travel to Saudi Arabia, Ending Its ‘Pariah’ Status
The visit represents the triumph of realpolitik over moral outrage, according to foreign policy experts.
 
Yeah, kiss anyone's ass so we don't have to use our own oil.

Better to send our money overseas to people that do not like us than keep it at home and benefit ourselves.

Biden's America Last policy ...
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Posted: Jun 3, 2022 - 1:43pm

Biden to Travel to Saudi Arabia, Ending Its ‘Pariah’ Status
The visit represents the triumph of realpolitik over moral outrage, according to foreign policy experts.

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Posted: Mar 30, 2022 - 12:40pm

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We Have New Evidence of Saudi Involvement in 9/11, and Barely Anyone Cares

BYBRANKO MARCETIC 
Jacobin Magazine

The FBI has quietly revealed further evidence of Saudi government complicity in the September 11 attacks — and nothing’s happened.

Last week, the FBI quietly declassified a 510-page report it produced in 2017 about the 9/11 terrorist attack twenty years ago. The disclosure is in accordance with President Joe Biden’s September 2021 executive order declassifying long-hidden government files about the attack, which many hoped would reveal what exactly US investigators knew about the Saudi Arabian government’s possible involvement.

According to an FBI communiqué dated to June 2017, from the late 1990s to September 11, 2001, al-Bayoumi “was paid a monthly stipend as a cooptee of the Saudi General Intelligence Presidency (GIP),” the country’s principal spy agency. The document notes that while his involvement with Saudi intelligence wasn’t confirmed at the time of the 9/11 Commission Report, the bureau has now confirmed it. In a separate 2017 document, bureau officials judge that “there is a 50/50 chance had advanced knowledge the 9/11 attacks were to occur.”




Oh that's just a conspiracy theory 
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Posted: Mar 27, 2022 - 10:46am

We Have New Evidence of Saudi Involvement in 9/11, and Barely Anyone Cares

BYBRANKO MARCETIC 
Jacobin Magazine

The FBI has quietly revealed further evidence of Saudi government complicity in the September 11 attacks — and nothing’s happened.

Last week, the FBI quietly declassified a 510-page report it produced in 2017 about the 9/11 terrorist attack twenty years ago. The disclosure is in accordance with President Joe Biden’s September 2021 executive order declassifying long-hidden government files about the attack, which many hoped would reveal what exactly US investigators knew about the Saudi Arabian government’s possible involvement.

According to an FBI communiqué dated to June 2017, from the late 1990s to September 11, 2001, al-Bayoumi “was paid a monthly stipend as a cooptee of the Saudi General Intelligence Presidency (GIP),” the country’s principal spy agency. The document notes that while his involvement with Saudi intelligence wasn’t confirmed at the time of the 9/11 Commission Report, the bureau has now confirmed it. In a separate 2017 document, bureau officials judge that “there is a 50/50 chance had advanced knowledge the 9/11 attacks were to occur.”


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Posted: Mar 12, 2022 - 2:09pm

Saudi Arabia executes 81 men in one day, the biggest mass execution in decades
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Posted: Dec 7, 2021 - 10:27am

One of suspected killers of Saudi journalist Khashoggi arrested in France
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Posted: Feb 26, 2021 - 2:31pm

Our guy MBS who buys our toys...

Biden Won’t Penalize Saudi Crown Prince Over Khashoggi’s Killing, Fearing Relations Breach
The decision will disappoint the human rights community and members of his own party who complained during the Trump administration that the U.S. was failing to hold Mohammed bin Salman accountable.
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Posted: Dec 23, 2019 - 1:45pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:

 ........
 
Yup. Long story short, House Saud can murder whomever they like and no one can do anything about it. America's finest ally.

 

The Saudi leadership must somehow believe that the Kingdom's reputation can be restored through these executions and prison sentences.  Incredible.   Talk about tone deaf....

On a positive note, it would seem that the drone attacks on the KSA have catalyzed a push to find a resolution to the Yemen civil war.  
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Posted: Dec 23, 2019 - 1:38pm



 westslope wrote:

Saudi Arabia: Khashoggi verdict a whitewash  Amnesty International

Photo credit: Chris McGrath/Getty Images

NEWS DECEMBER 23, 2019 

Responding to a Saudi Arabian court’s sentencing of five people to death and three others to prison for the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, Lynn Maalouf, Amnesty International’s Middle East Research Director, said:

“This verdict is a whitewash which brings neither justice nor the truth for Jamal Khashoggi and his loved ones. The trial has been closed to the public and to independent monitors, with no information available as to how the investigation was carried out.

“The verdict fails to address the Saudi authorities’ involvement in this devastating crime or clarify the location of Jamal Khashoggi’s remains.

“Saudi Arabia’s courts routinely deny defendants access to lawyers and condemn people to death following grossly unfair trials. Given the lack of transparency from the Saudi authorities, and in the absence of an independent judiciary, only an international, independent and impartial investigation can serve justice for Jamal Khashoggi.”

Background

The Public Prosecution’s findings into the murder of Jamal Khashoggi on 2 October 2018 were published by the Saudi Press Agency today. The trial involved 31 individuals, 11 of whom were charged and eight were convicted today. Five were sentenced to death and three were sentenced to prison terms. They were tried and sentenced before the Criminal Court in Riyadh. The verdict is subject to an appeal.

A UN report released by the Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, Agnes Callamard, in June 2019 concluded that Jamal Khashoggi was the victim of “an extrajudicial killing for which the state of Saudi Arabia is responsible under human rights law”. Saudi Arabia failed to cooperate with Special Rapporteur Callamard during her investigation.

 
Yup. Long story short, House Saud can murder whomever they like and no one can do anything about it. America's finest ally.

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