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Posted: Oct 5, 2022 - 3:39pm

The Pandemic’s Legacy Is Already Clear
All of this will happen again.
Recently, after a week in which 2,789 Americans died of COVID-19, President Joe Biden proclaimed that “the pandemic is over.” Anthony Fauci described the controversy around the proclamation as a matter of “semantics,” but the facts we are living with can speak for themselves. COVID still kills roughly as many Americans every week as died on 9/11. It is on track to kill at least 100,000 a year—triple the typical toll of the flu. Despite gross undercounting, more than 50,000 infections are being recorded every day. The CDC estimates that 19 million adults have long COVID. Things have undoubtedly improved since the peak of the crisis, but calling the pandemic “over” is like calling a fight “finished” because your opponent is punching you in the ribs instead of the face.

American leaders and pundits have been trying to call an end to the pandemic since its beginning, only to be faced with new surges or variants. This mindset not only compromises the nation’s ability to manage COVID, but also leaves it vulnerable to other outbreaks. Future pandemics aren’t hypothetical; they’re inevitable and imminent. New infectious diseases have regularly emerged throughout recent decades, and climate change is quickening the pace of such events. As rising temperatures force animals to relocate, species that have never coexisted will meet, allowing the viruses within them to find new hosts—humans included. Dealing with all of this again is a matter of when, not if.

In 2018, I wrote an article in The Atlantic warning that the U.S. was not prepared for a pandemic. That diagnosis remains unchanged; if anything, I was too optimistic. America was ranked as the world’s most prepared country in 2019—and, bafflingly, again in 2021—but accounts for 16 percent of global COVID deaths despite having just 4 percent of the global population. It spends more on medical care than any other wealthy country, but its hospitals were nonetheless overwhelmed. It helped create vaccines in record time, but is 67th in the world in full vaccinations. (This trend cannot solely be attributed to political division; even the most heavily vaccinated blue state—Rhode Island—still lags behind 21 nations.) America experienced the largest life-expectancy decline of any wealthy country in 2020 and, unlike its peers, continued declining in 2021. If it had fared as well as just the average peer nation, 1.1 million people who died last year—a third of all American deaths—would still be alive.

America’s superlatively poor performance cannot solely be blamed on either the Trump or Biden administrations, although both have made egregious errors. Rather, the new coronavirus exploited the country’s many failing systems: its overstuffed prisons and understaffed nursing homes; its chronically underfunded public-health system; its reliance on convoluted supply chains and a just-in-time economy; its for-profit health-care system, whose workers were already burned out; its decades-long project of unweaving social safety nets; and its legacy of racism and segregation that had already left Black and Indigenous communities and other communities of color disproportionately burdened with health problems. Even in the pre-COVID years, the U.S. was still losing about 626,000 people more than expected for a nation of its size and resources. COVID simply toppled an edifice whose foundations were already rotten. (...)

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Posted: Oct 5, 2022 - 10:39am

 black321 wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Well I got both the wife and my Mom in the same hospital at the same time. and I'm the healthy one ... yup ... until I'm not ... 

Oof, sorry about that. Weren't you all diagnosed a month ago?

Rebound case?

I was just traveling with family and 4 out of 7 of us got sick (mildly). 
The wife and I were ok, not sure why we lucked out, but we do take daily doses of zinc, quercetin and bromelain.
 
Yep.  The wife long CV with COPD episode tossed in and my Mom has it again, too.  My Mom has simply pushed herself too hard and never really recovered from the first time I'm guessing.

C, D3, zinc and turmeric here.  So far, I'm ok.

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Thanks, {#Arrowd}
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Posted: Oct 5, 2022 - 10:29am

 kurtster wrote:

Well I got both the wife and my Mom in the same hospital at the same time.

and I'm the healthy one ... yup ... until I'm not ... 



Dang. Scary stuff if they're that sick as to need to be in. Fingers crossed.
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Posted: Oct 5, 2022 - 9:57am

 kurtster wrote:

Well I got both the wife and my Mom in the same hospital at the same time.

and I'm the healthy one ... yup ... until I'm not ... 



Oof, sorry about that. Weren't you all diagnosed a month ago? Rebound case?
I was just traveling with family and 4 out of 7 of us got sick (mildly). 
The wife and I were ok, not sure why we lucked out, but we do take daily doses of zinc, quercetin and bromelain.
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Posted: Oct 5, 2022 - 9:44am

Well I got both the wife and my Mom in the same hospital at the same time.

and I'm the healthy one ... yup ... until I'm not ... 
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Posted: Oct 3, 2022 - 5:26am

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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 9:38pm

 kurtster wrote:

You responded to a post that was singularly about only one particular faction and made no mention that this kind of behaviour may not be limited to just this one faction. 


I don't need to. 

You don't even make any sense. 
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 8:36pm


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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 8:30pm

 nottheusualkind wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Well you can start by explaining why you believe that only republicans have contested elections.  You obviously or conveniently ignore the democrat response to the 2016 elections.
I do?  When and where did I state that?
 
By omission.
 nottheusualkind wrote:
 kcar wrote:
 There is no basis in reality for that position as proven by court cases and numerous Republicans inside and outside the Trump administration. And yet Trumpers still swill the Kool Aid.


It is so bizarre.

Psychology 101; people believe what they want to believe, even when what they want to believe isn't true. What I want to know is, why?

 
You responded to a post that was singularly about only one particular faction and made no mention that this kind of behaviour may not be limited to just this one faction.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 1:13pm

 kurtster wrote:

Well you can start by explaining why you believe that only republicans have contested elections. 


I do? 

When and where did I state that?
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 10:14am

 Proclivities wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Yes you are correct.  And for the record, I am not the one who keeps bringing up the threadjacks.  I have only responded to them. No I have not got the booster nor do I intend to.  I just had the crap 6 weeks ago so why bother ? I seem to be battling a case of post Covid pneumonia at the moment.  Not sure who is winning ...

The threadjacks get kind of fun sometimes - tangential stuff.  I don't think you had done the high-jacking, no matter really.
 
we're good. At work and just had a moment to check in and popped off ...

off to lunch. or whatever you call a couple of bottles of Boost.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 10:05am

 kurtster wrote:

Yes you are correct. 

And for the record, I am not the one who keeps bringing up the threadjacks.  I have only responded to them.

No I have not got the booster nor do I intend to.  I just had the crap 6 weeks ago so why bother ?

I seem to be battling a case of post Covid pneumonia at the moment.  Not sure who is winning ...

The threadjacks get kind of fun sometimes - tangential stuff.  I don't think you had done the high-jacking, no matter really.


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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 9:51am

 Proclivities wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Well you can start by explaining why you believe that only republicans have contested elections. You obviously or conveniently ignore the democrat response to the 2016 elections. We can go back to Kennedy who had a slate of alternate electors set up the same way Trump did this last election.  It was ok then but not now.

JFK's slate of electors was for Hawaii - which had just voted for the first time in a Presidential race.  The then-Senate president - the Vice President - who was overseeing the congressional certification (and also happened to be the GOP Presidential candidate: Richard Nixon), "asked for unanimous consent that the votes of the Democratic electors would count".  I guess that made it "okay" back then.  The three Electoral College votes from Hawaii would not have made a difference since JFK won by about 100 E.C. votes.  Trump and his people were attempting to set up (admittedly fake) electors in 6 or 7 key states. Anyhow, this thread has been hijacked.  Has anyone here gotten the "new" booster?
 
Yes you are correct. 

And for the record, I am not the one who keeps bringing up the threadjacks.  I have only responded to them.

No I have not got the booster nor do I intend to.  I just had the crap 6 weeks ago so why bother ?

I seem to be battling a case of post Covid pneumonia at the moment.  Not sure who is winning ...
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 9:09am

 kcar wrote:


Tell you what: write down  the names of these high-ranking Democrats. And if you need or want to use video clips from Fox of those people calling Trump an illegitimate president, go ahead.

There probably were prominent Democrats saying as much after Trump was elected and inaugurated. But most of those people faced facts and realized Trump was legitimately elected.

Iirc the majority of Trump supporters still think that the 2020 was stolen or rigged and that Biden was not legitimately elected. There is no basis in reality for that position as proven by court cases and numerous Republicans inside and outside the Trump administration. And yet Trumpers still swill the Kool Aid.



Don't believe in leaders. Watch your parking meters.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 8:53am

 Proclivities wrote:
Has anyone here gotten the "new" booster?


We got ours a week ago; sore arm and minor fatigue the next day.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 8:30am

 kurtster wrote:

Well you can start by explaining why you believe that only republicans have contested elections. You obviously or conveniently ignore the democrat response to the 2016 elections.

We can go back to Kennedy who had a slate of alternate electors set up the same way Trump did this last election.  It was ok then but not now.

JFK's slate of electors was for Hawaii - which had just voted for the first time in a Presidential race.  The then-Senate president - the Vice President - who was overseeing the congressional certification (and also happened to be the GOP Presidential candidate: Richard Nixon), "asked for unanimous consent that the votes of the Democratic electors would count".  I guess that made it "okay" back then.  The three Electoral College votes from Hawaii would not have made a difference since JFK won by about 100 E.C. votes.  Trump and his people were attempting to set up (admittedly fake) electors in 6 or 7 key states.

Anyhow, this thread has been hijacked.  Has anyone here gotten the "new" booster?
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 7:40am

If I may stand back a moment.

Some countries would have already jailed Trump.

Now it looks like he will die a death of a thousand cuts.   His reputation is the frontline victim.

My impression is that Trump's reputation is currently declining faster than the initial production of a fracked tight oil well.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 7:24am

 kurtster wrote:

Well you can start by explaining why you believe that only republicans have contested elections. You obviously or conveniently ignore the democrat response to the 2016 elections.

We can go back to Kennedy who had a slate of alternate electors set up the same way Trump did this last election.  It was ok then but not now.


The democratic response to the 2016 election was to transfer records to the the national archives, try to brief the incoming president about policy and intelligence matters, without much success, then move out.

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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 5:56am

 nottheusualkind wrote:
 kcar wrote:
 There is no basis in reality for that position as proven by court cases and numerous Republicans inside and outside the Trump administration. And yet Trumpers still swill the Kool Aid.

It is so bizarre. Psychology 101; people believe what they want to believe, even when what they want to believe isn't true. What I want to know is, why?
 
Well you can start by explaining why you believe that only republicans have contested elections. You obviously or conveniently ignore the democrat response to the 2016 elections.

We can go back to Kennedy who had a slate of alternate electors set up the same way Trump did this last election.  It was ok then but not now.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 3:32am

 kcar wrote:
 There is no basis in reality for that position as proven by court cases and numerous Republicans inside and outside the Trump administration. And yet Trumpers still swill the Kool Aid.


It is so bizarre.

Psychology 101; people believe what they want to believe, even when what they want to believe isn't true. What I want to know is, why?

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