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Posted: Sep 14, 2024 - 11:07am


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Posted: Sep 6, 2024 - 2:19pm

 Steely_D wrote:
Finally we're starting to get some confirmation of the obvious: social media is our enemies' propaganda tool.

FYT.


Every accusation...
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Posted: Sep 6, 2024 - 1:01pm

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Hard to know what this means. But I’ve said it many times that were already under attack using a disinformation campaign into our social media that has caused Americans to hate each other, mistrust science, willfully die from a preventable disease, and express support for Russia instead of the President. That’s been many more people than those that died on September 11. Many many more, and we don’t care because Trump told us it would magically be gone by spring, etc. Idiot.

Enemies just changed tactic now that we take our shoes off to fly. Attack our media and gain control of our nation.




Finally we're starting to get some confirmation of the obvious: social media is our enemies' propaganda tool.
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Posted: Jul 20, 2024 - 6:40am

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Well then, just don’t drink the waste water. 




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Posted: Jul 19, 2024 - 6:35pm

Well then, just don’t drink the waste water. 
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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 2:18pm

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can we extend that to tribalism/politics?
because if we can...


The drip is real...
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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 12:53pm

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That should make you happy in a poetic justice kinda way, eh ?

Aside from getting things wrong in the first place...
...governmental COVID measures critique remains unwanted.

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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 12:49pm

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That should make you happy in a poetic justice kinda way, eh ?
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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 9:40am

Almost twice as many Republicans than Democrats died of Covid, study says
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Posted: Dec 30, 2023 - 11:08am

 miamizsun wrote:
 Steely_D wrote:

I despair at the internet spreading the ludicrous concept that every single one of the people in healthcare and research and pharmacology are All In It Together. Seriously? Think about that for a second. You’ve likely met a jerk doctor or nurse - but you’ve also met a jerk car mechanic or bus driver. It’s not the whole profession, in an organized and malevolent union designed to screw you and your family over. Understanding disease and treatment takes time - especially in the face of unintentional and intentional misinformation.


can we extend that to tribalism/politics?
because if we can...
 
Not sure. It's possible of course but probably have to be able to see the light at the end of the Kobayashi Maru. I mean tunnel...
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Posted: Dec 30, 2023 - 6:59am

 Steely_D wrote:

I despair at the internet spreading the ludicrous concept that every single one of the people in healthcare and research and pharmacology are All In It Together. Seriously? Think about that for a second. You’ve likely met a jerk doctor or nurse - but you’ve also met a jerk car mechanic or bus driver. It’s not the whole profession, in an organized and malevolent union designed to screw you and your family over. Understanding disease and treatment takes time - especially in the face of unintentional and intentional misinformation.


can we extend that to tribalism/politics?
because if we can...
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Posted: Dec 29, 2023 - 7:54am

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Those of you old enough might remember the horrible period in the mid 80s where we started to recognize that there was something going on - a disease where people got weird skin cancers (Kaposi’s Sarcoma) or usually benign versions of tuberculosis (avium). And it killed them - frequently young otherwise generally health people: hemophiliacs, gay men, Haitians (!?), and IV drug users. What ties them together? Some said it was God’s vengeance, whatever that means.

Eventually, we named it GRID and then AIDS. And it was a death sentence, full stop. But that didn’t prevent people from trying anything to “cure it.” And I don’t blame them at all. 

It took a while, but meds were tried, failed, tried, failed, tried, and then succeeded in lifting the death sentence part of the diagnosis. This is the nature of how things work, and - although there was a shameful amount of politics involved that slowed things - eventually the story of HIV infection became quite different than at the beginning.

I think that’s a very useful template for what’s happening with Long Covid: chaotic identification because of different presentations. Then, clunky attempts at prevention and treatment. Wild stabs at Laetrile-like treatments since “Big Pharma” is an easy to blame baddie, and by identifying an enemy it relieves some of the hopelessness. And, slowly, a unified theory of what we’re dealing with and the best way(s) to address it. Paxlovid is a start.

I despair at the internet spreading the ludicrous concept that every single one of the people in healthcare and research and pharmacology are All In It Together. Seriously? Think about that for a second. You’ve likely met a jerk doctor or nurse - but you’ve also met a jerk car mechanic or bus driver. It’s not the whole profession, in an organized and malevolent union designed to screw you and your family over. Understanding disease and treatment takes time - especially in the face of unintentional and intentional misinformation.




 this was a great read.
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Posted: Dec 29, 2023 - 7:48am

 Steely_D wrote:

Those of you old enough might remember the horrible period in the mid 80s where we started to recognize that there was something going on - a disease where people got weird skin cancers (Kaposi’s Sarcoma) or usually benign versions of tuberculosis (avium). And it killed them - frequently young otherwise generally health people: hemophiliacs, gay men, Haitians (!?), and IV drug users. What ties them together? Some said it was God’s vengeance, whatever that means.

Eventually, we named it GRID and then AIDS. And it was a death sentence, full stop. But that didn’t prevent people from trying anything to “cure it.” And I don’t blame them at all. 

It took a while, but meds were tried, failed, tried, failed, tried, and then succeeded in lifting the death sentence part of the diagnosis. This is the nature of how things work, and - although there was a shameful amount of politics involved that slowed things - eventually the story of HIV infection became quite different than at the beginning.

I think that’s a very useful template for what’s happening with Long Covid: chaotic identification because of different presentations. Then, clunky attempts at prevention and treatment. Wild stabs at Laetrile-like treatments since “Big Pharma” is an easy to blame baddie, and by identifying an enemy it relieves some of the hopelessness. And, slowly, a unified theory of what we’re dealing with and the best way(s) to address it. Paxlovid is a start.

I despair at the internet spreading the ludicrous concept that every single one of the people in healthcare and research and pharmacology are All In It Together. Seriously? Think about that for a second. You’ve likely met a jerk doctor or nurse - but you’ve also met a jerk car mechanic or bus driver. It’s not the whole profession, in an organized and malevolent union designed to screw you and your family over. Understanding disease and treatment takes time - especially in the face of unintentional and intentional misinformation.


Thank you for that. Probably the most intelligent thing I've read regarding Covid since it came about. 

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Posted: Dec 28, 2023 - 4:52pm

Those of you old enough might remember the horrible period in the mid 80s where we started to recognize that there was something going on - a disease where people got weird skin cancers (Kaposi’s Sarcoma) or usually benign versions of tuberculosis (avium). And it killed them - frequently young otherwise generally health people: hemophiliacs, gay men, Haitians (!?), and IV drug users. What ties them together? Some said it was God’s vengeance, whatever that means.

Eventually, we named it GRID and then AIDS. And it was a death sentence, full stop. But that didn’t prevent people from trying anything to “cure it.” And I don’t blame them at all. 

It took a while, but meds were tried, failed, tried, failed, tried, and then succeeded in lifting the death sentence part of the diagnosis. This is the nature of how things work, and - although there was a shameful amount of politics involved that slowed things - eventually the story of HIV infection became quite different than at the beginning.

I think that’s a very useful template for what’s happening with Long Covid: chaotic identification because of different presentations. Then, clunky attempts at prevention and treatment. Wild stabs at Laetrile-like treatments since “Big Pharma” is an easy to blame baddie, and by identifying an enemy it relieves some of the hopelessness. And, slowly, a unified theory of what we’re dealing with and the best way(s) to address it. Paxlovid is a start.

I despair at the internet spreading the ludicrous concept that every single one of the people in healthcare and research and pharmacology are All In It Together. Seriously? Think about that for a second. You’ve likely met a jerk doctor or nurse - but you’ve also met a jerk car mechanic or bus driver. It’s not the whole profession, in an organized and malevolent union designed to screw you and your family over. Understanding disease and treatment takes time - especially in the face of unintentional and intentional misinformation.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2023 - 4:16pm

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Is long covid really any different than other long colds...eg epstein barr, lyme disease...
western medicine has a spotty record dealing with chronic illness and its better to look for natural remedies, herbs including Japanese Knotweed, Cats Claw, Chinese Skullcap...



Maybe to people that don’t understand biology, medicine, and immunology. I mean, why listen to people that have spend their lives trying to understand how things work?
Before going into immunology and immunoglobulins and inflammation and the unknown nature of why in some people the Long Covid injury is in the brain and in others the heart and in others the lungs, let’s start super simple:
What causes inflammation? Here’s a diagram. 
Now, in a natural remedy like Japanese Knotweed, which portion of the inflammation cascade is it affecting? Does it work in large controlled studies? Is its effect more potent that the other more traditional Western medicine that’s also being used. 
Which component of it is the active chemical? After identifying it, can it be synthesized to be used independently and in a predictable amount (not just “chew on three leaves of this noxious perennial”) - or is it dependent on another one or more co-agents that’s in the Japanese Knotweed itself, like an enzyme or catalyst?

So, as you can tell, you’ve hit a nerve with me. The internet is full of assertions, stories, and miracle cures. I can assure you that there are very very few researchers and healthcare workers that see a solution and ignore it so they can bring home a few more bucks. Most just want to do some good, not get sued, and go home.

And, if Big Pharma could take what works in the invasive Japanese Knotweed and sell it, I bet you they’d be first out of the box to put it on the market.

More about Japanese Knotweed, BTW https://www.invasivespeciesinf...
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