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Steely_D

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Posted: Jul 13, 2024 - 10:45am

FTA: “The Republican Party and its conservative allies are engaged in an unprecedented legal campaign targeting the American voting system. Their wide-ranging and methodical effort is laying the groundwork to contest an election that they argue, falsely, is already being rigged against former President Donald J. Trump.”

Republicans Pursue Plans to Contest a Trump Defeat

FFS, people. You’re a bunch of crybaby losers. Quite the opposite of Gore and Hillary - both of whom were the popular vote and would‘Ve been better leaders.
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Posted: Jul 12, 2024 - 6:19pm


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Posted: Jul 12, 2024 - 3:24pm

I am in Last Chance, Colorado, looking at a faded billboard of a hand-painted American flag. Under the flag is a ragged rectangle whitewashing what once was written. You fill in the blanks yourself in a town like Last Chance. (...)

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Posted: Jul 11, 2024 - 9:46pm


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Posted: Jul 11, 2024 - 12:44pm

Don't discriminate against the God given American right to stupidity


Steely_D

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Posted: Jul 10, 2024 - 5:53am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

.Belt up America. If you vote Trump you are about to get shafted by government big time, the very thing so many are apparently afraid of.





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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 10:17pm

Thought for today and also to take a step back from all the mud-slinging... 

Politics is about riding a wave of popularity to victory, ergo the popular vote is what it is all about. 
But "popular" is a pretty nuanced beast.

Somehow, Trump has positioned himself in the minds of huge swath of America as representative of the "true" America (read American dream, I guess) 
and Biden has positioned himself as the defender of American democracy (constitution, rights, gov. institutions, etc.).

These two worlds are colliding like two galaxies, shooting through each other but getting inextricably pulled apart in a chaotic mess before reforming somewhere down the road.. 

It is hard to imagine anyone less competent than Trump (I think even Beaker has said something along these lines), but that obviously doesn't matter to his supporters because they are voting for what he stands for, not the skills of the man himself.

On the other hand, almost as if the metaphor was intended, American democracy has put up a very fine candidate with a proven track record, but who is obviously on his last legs.

Now it gets even weirder:
The popular vote favours Trump because it can look past his myriad personal faults and seize on the American dream, as something strong and vibrant in and of itself.
The popular vote disadvantages Biden because a) the bulk of the American public takes the democratic institutions as given and b) focuses on the man., i.e. whether he's up for the job within these given institutions.

So Trump gets to be criminal, which doesn't matter precisely because a criminal is seen as the antithesis of government and his grifting is just an expression of the wild and free individual that a large swath of American thinks is the ideal thing to be.
Biden gets to be ridiculed, despite a perfect track record, because he stands for government.

Which I guess kind of explains the disconnect between the two galaxies and why we keep talking past each other.

What I fear are two things:

1. that the American Dream, MAGA, side of the equation has totally forgotten the democratic foundations and institutions that are a necessary condition for the American Dream to even materialise.  They have had it so good for so long, they just take these political institutions for granted and can't imagine that dismantling the checks and controls on the state is very likely to destroy the very thing they want: you know, that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness thing. 

2. the first Trump administration was, in a way, kind of harmless (ignoring the thousands of unnecessary dead during the pandemic here), because he is so incompetent. What I fear here is that the second Trump administration will not be so harmless. The recent SCOTUS ruling on presidential immunity paves the way:  the criminals will become the government and the government will become criminal.   

Belt up America. If you vote Trump you are about to get shafted by government big time, the very thing so many are apparently afraid of.







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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 5:43pm

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The bullshit is that he'll not do any of those things; he'll be too busy grifting and golfing. The agenda of the people in his administration is Project 2025.



Perhaps you actually meant "Agenda47"

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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 5:29pm

 Steely_D wrote:


We have found common ground.
Kumbaya




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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 4:52pm

About those 'Black jobs': Biden administration shows better record of Black Cabinet leaders than Trump



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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 12:52pm

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If the cargo shorts are camo, they're automatically enlisted in the Army. 

My cargo shorts are plaid, so I get issued a Vodka Red Bull and a tin of gummies. 


:thumbsup:

If they're wearing any camo in an urban shopping or entertainment environment, they're automatically enlisted in a military branch.  No exceptions.
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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 12:24pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
If the cargo shorts are camo, they're automatically enlisted in the Army. 

My cargo shorts are plaid, so I get issued a Vodka Red Bull and a tin of gummies. 

This so exactly sounds like you and me!

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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 12:20pm

 Beaker wrote:

Only made it to #67 before snorting and starting this post...

#68 violates my personal rule of not reposting anything with typos, but hey, it's Patch Tuesday, so I'll let this one slide.





If the cargo shorts are camo, they're automatically enlisted in the Army. 

My cargo shorts are plaid, so I get issued a Vodka Red Bull and a tin of gummies. 
Beaker

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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 11:52am

Contentious topic!



NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 7:13am

 Steely_D wrote:


We have found common ground.
Kumbaya


Is this like one of those comic sans moments?
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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 6:59am

 Beaker wrote:

Fair.

Though IMO, Any Users Posting Paragraph After Paragraph In Title Case Should Be Taken Away For A Mandatory Mental Health Assessment.



We have found common ground.
Kumbaya
Beaker

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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 6:55am

Only made it to #67 before snorting and starting this post...

#68 violates my personal rule of not reposting anything with typos, but hey, it's Patch Tuesday, so I'll let this one slide.


Beaker

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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 6:25am

 Steely_D wrote:

He forgot

ALWAYS
BE
YELLING

What’s the deal with these guys that convey their message as a gentleman would, with logic and persuasive speech? It’s always the wingnuts that think that ALL CAPS is somehow more communicative, when it’s really just stupid.


Fair.

Though IMO, Any Users Posting Paragraph After Paragraph In Title Case Should Be Taken Away For A Mandatory Mental Health Assessment.

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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 6:14am

 Steely_D wrote:

He forgot

ALWAYS
BE
YELLING

What’s the deal with these guys that convey their message as a gentleman would, with logic and persuasive speech? It’s always the wingnuts that think that ALL CAPS is somehow more communicative, when it’s really just stupid.



LOL. Also, context dependent, it informs a deeper insight into the psyche, especially on the internet.

Exposé for the masses.



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Posted: Jul 9, 2024 - 5:11am

He forgot

ALWAYS
BE
YELLING

What’s the deal with these guys that convey their message as a gentleman would, with logic and persuasive speech? It’s always the wingnuts that think that ALL CAPS is somehow more communicative, when it’s really just stupid.
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