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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Oct 5, 2024 - 10:22am

Project 2025 Wants To Turn 40-Hour Workweek Into 160-Hour Work Month?
kurtster

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Posted: Sep 22, 2024 - 11:46pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
 
Since you have failed to provide a source ...

This looks like a Harris campaign add.  Just misinformation.  Not based on any facts.

Par for your course.
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Posted: Sep 22, 2024 - 7:13pm

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Posted: Aug 16, 2024 - 4:41pm

 kurtster wrote:
(...) is based primarily on emotion evoking lies that provide confirmation biases all the reinforcement they need to keep working. The campaign and the lies are working as intended on the targeted.  Emotional responses shut down critical thinking and prevent thoughtful conversations from even beginning.  Which is the primary goal.  Keep people from talking to each other to work through things like this.

This you?

I'm thinking you're more in the market for a dwarf pony.
kurtster

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Posted: Aug 16, 2024 - 4:14pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
It's 900 pages long, so it's not surprising you didn't read it. It also isn't surprising that most of the hot takes out there are also by people who didn't read it, or are simply making things up.

Sadly it also it isn't surprising that most of the posts here are repeating those hot takes. But somebody did read it, and here is a debunking of one meme you probably shared on social media because it matched your prejudices.

For background Ryan McBeth (yes, that's his real name) is making a career out of fact checking disinformation, mostly Russian. This isn't long—definitely not 900 pages long—and it's very informative.

If you find that some of the things you believe aren't true I'd urge you to apply additional skepticism to anything the source of those things tells you in the future. Stop believing liars.
 
Thank you for finding and posting this.  It confirms my earlier conclusions. 

I urge anyone who is worried about Project 2025 watch it and come back to discuss it.
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 kurtster wrote:
Y'all are crazy.

You're behaving like this is a done deal.

To me, I see it as a conversation starter.  A comprehensive one, but only a beginning.

The chances of seeing any more than a fraction of any proposals successfully wend their way through Congress is pretty slim.

But you all refuse any conversations.  No conversations needed.  It is all bad, case closed.
 
The campaign against Project 2025 is based primarily on emotion evoking lies that provide confirmation biases all the reinforcement they need to keep working. The campaign and the lies are working as intended on the targeted.  Emotional responses shut down critical thinking and prevent thoughtful conversations from even beginning.  Which is the primary goal.  Keep people from talking to each other to work through things like this.
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Posted: Aug 16, 2024 - 11:08am

It's 900 pages long, so it's not surprising you didn't read it. It also isn't surprising that most of the hot takes out there are also by people who didn't read it, or are simply making things up.

Sadly it also it isn't surprising that most of the posts here are repeating those hot takes. But somebody did read it, and here is a debunking of one meme you probably shared on social media because it matched your prejudices.

For background Ryan McBeth (yes, that's his real name) is making a career out of fact checking disinformation, mostly Russian. This isn't long—definitely not 900 pages long—and it's very informative.

If you find that some of the things you believe aren't true I'd urge you to apply additional skepticism to anything the source of those things tells you in the future. Stop believing liars.


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Aug 15, 2024 - 8:46pm

Hidden-camera video shows Project 2025 co-author discussing his secret work preparing for a second Trump term
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Posted: Aug 15, 2024 - 6:28pm

Project 2025 Co-Author Says It's Time to ‘Rehabilitate' Christian Nationalism
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Posted: Aug 15, 2024 - 1:52pm

YT version:

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Posted: Aug 15, 2024 - 1:41pm


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Posted: Aug 8, 2024 - 8:14am

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Trump took a private flight with Project 2025 leader in 2022

In April 2022, Trump shared a 45-minute private flight with Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts, according to people familiar with the trip, plane-tracking data and a photograph from on board the plane, which has not been previously reported. They flew together to a Heritage conference where Trump delivered a keynote address that gestured to Heritage’s forthcoming policy proposals.

“They’re going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do,” Trump said in the speech.


Beaker is calling trump a liar 

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Posted: Aug 8, 2024 - 5:23am

Trump took a private flight with Project 2025 leader in 2022

In April 2022, Trump shared a 45-minute private flight with Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts, according to people familiar with the trip, plane-tracking data and a photograph from on board the plane, which has not been previously reported. They flew together to a Heritage conference where Trump delivered a keynote address that gestured to Heritage’s forthcoming policy proposals.

“They’re going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do,” Trump said in the speech.


Yet Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has repeatedly denied knowing about the Project 2025 policy blueprint or the people behind it. “Have no idea who is in charge of it,” he wrote in a social media post in July.
The Heritage Foundation has since 1980 published a book of policy recommendations for the next Republican administration. For this cycle, the foundation set out to convene a coalition of more than 100 right-wing groups, presenting the proposals as a movement consensus under the banner of Project 2025. The coalition involved at least 140 Trump administration alumni.
Roberts also has a relationship with Trump’s running mate, Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), who wrote the foreword to Roberts’s book, “Dawn’s Early Light.” In the foreword, Vance called Heritage “the most influential engine of ideas for Republicans from Ronald Reagan to Donald Trump.” On Tuesday, Roberts announced that he would delay publication until after the election.

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Posted: Aug 5, 2024 - 9:01pm

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  What a maroon.  Ilk like you must collect conspiracy tales to tell anyone who will listen. The most powerful research tools ever made are at your fingertips - and you have no idea where to start.



I googled Beaker's real opinion on the Project 2025 proposals but came up empty
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Posted: Aug 5, 2024 - 6:12pm

Gen Z’s Guide To Project 2025
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Posted: Jul 31, 2024 - 11:09pm

 haresfur wrote:

Plausible deniability. It is a roadmap for specific policies to implement trump's empty platitudes.

If it is unrelated to trump, why are you unwilling to come out against it or at least the parts you are trying to sweep under the carpet?




  What a maroon.  Ilk like you must collect conspiracy tales to tell anyone who will listen. The most powerful research tools ever made are at your fingertips - and you have no idea where to start.

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Posted: Jul 31, 2024 - 10:45pm

 kurtster wrote:

In case you missed it, Harris was catalogued as the most liberal senator during her time as a US Senator.  More liberal than Sanders.

Harris is farther left than AOC.  A look at San Francisco is a window into her policies and aspirations.

Harris has led the defund the police movement.  Cashless bail. She raised money for rioters.

Wants the border wide open without penalties or prosecution of any kind for illegal crossers.

Wants to completely end private health care and provide permanent public healthcare to anyone who shows up regardless of legal status.

Wants to give voting rights to illegals.

Wants a mandatory gun buy back program, aka confiscation ...

These are just openers.

You view from affair has been distorted.  Her record is being brought up as all her statements have been recorded and they will be played back for her benefit.  She is already backpedaling so fast she'll get a speeding ticket.

Yeah, I call bullshit on all of that, but to return to the topic on hand, it doesn't change the fact that the democratic party isn't Marxist, and the platform in project 2025 presents the, in your terms, "conversation starter" proposal for implementing the republican and trump policies, in spite of beaker's smoke and mirrors denial that it has anything to do with them. You are unwilling to say anything against the specific problems that many here have brought up. That's tacit support.
haresfur

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Posted: Jul 31, 2024 - 10:31pm

 Beaker wrote:

Project 2025 has nothing to do with the Trump campaign.  The problem people here have is they refuse to accept this fact.

If you're looking to find out what Trump's platform actually is, you may want to look at the source:

2024 GOP - Trump platform Do you see anything there that's "totally abhorrent"?


And:
President Trump’s 20 CORE PROMISES TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!



Plausible deniability. It is a roadmap for specific policies to implement trump's empty platitudes.

If it is unrelated to trump, why are you unwilling to come out against it or at least the parts you are trying to sweep under the carpet?

Beaker

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Posted: Jul 31, 2024 - 10:01pm

Project 2025 will bring back the woody

islander

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Posted: Jul 31, 2024 - 9:32pm

 kurtster wrote:

< chaff deleted >

Wants to completely end private health care and provide permanent public healthcare to anyone who shows up regardless of legal status.
< sigh.... more chaff>


You know this is how 25+ other civilized countries in the world do it right?  

Well they don't end private care, and neither will we. But yeah, most places don't understand medical bankruptcy. And they take care of people, because it's the right thing to do. 
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Posted: Jul 31, 2024 - 8:19pm

 haresfur wrote:
To say that the Communist Manifesto is the roadmap for democrats is ludicrous. At not time in the past or up to the present has the party been Marxist. Even the progressive wing is not Marxist. Learn the difference between social democrats and communists. And Harris is firmly in the right-wing side of the party. Her positions resemble the George Bushes more than they resemble Bernie Sanders (who isn't even a democrat, anyway).
 
In case you missed it, Harris was catalogued as the most liberal senator during her time as a US Senator.  More liberal than Sanders.

Harris is farther left than AOC.  A look at San Francisco is a window into her policies and aspirations.

Harris has led the defund the police movement.  Cashless bail. She raised money for rioters.

Wants the border wide open without penalties or prosecution of any kind for illegal crossers.

Wants to completely end private health care and provide permanent public healthcare to anyone who shows up regardless of legal status.

Wants to give voting rights to illegals.

Wants a mandatory gun buy back program, aka confiscation ...

These are just openers.

You view from affair has been distorted.  Her record is being brought up as all her statements have been recorded and they will be played back for her benefit.  She is already backpedaling so fast she'll get a speeding ticket.
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