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rgio

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Posted: Jun 19, 2024 - 5:13am

 kcar wrote:

John Oliver digs into Project 2025, the right's blueprint to subjugate the American government and people to Trump's will.  Long but worth it. 



I looked for the episode on Monday to post, but it takes a while to get to YouTube.   Very scary stuff.

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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 8:49pm

John Oliver digs into Project 2025, the right's blueprint to subjugate the American government and people to Trump's will.  Long but worth it. 





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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 11:33am

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Ah, yeah I know that one and I still want to be a dental floss rancher when I grow up but Sears Jewish didn't register.  Never heard that one before actually. My first thought was in like Jewing down, or haggling or being cheap.

You forget that I work in Hebrew Central so certain Jewish references get lost amongst the very many.

Cut to 3:45 if you have no musical taste.


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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 11:27am

 kurtster wrote:

Ah, yeah I know that one and I still want to be a dental floss rancher when I grow up but Sears Jewish didn't register.  Never heard that one before actually. My first thought was in like Jewing down, or haggling or being cheap.

You forget that I work in Hebrew Central so certain Jewish references get lost amongst the very many.



I didn't get that one either. I'm a Zappa fan but don't have all the lyrics memorized, and I guess I'm Sears Jewish too. I get it now that I know what it's about.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 11:25am

hitler/trump — not just a cheap shot
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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 11:10am

 Steely_D wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

She's bankrupt ?
Man I am so disappointed if you missed the “Is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?” joke. We might see politics differently but… 
 
Ah, yeah I know that one and I still want to be a dental floss rancher when I grow up but Sears Jewish didn't register.  Never heard that one before actually. My first thought was in like Jewing down, or haggling or being cheap.

You forget that I work in Hebrew Central so certain Jewish references get lost amongst the very many.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 10:51am

 kurtster wrote:

She's bankrupt ?


Man I am so disappointed if you missed the “Is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?” joke. We might see politics differently but… 
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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 10:18am

 Steely_D wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

You do know that Ivanka is Jewish ...

She’s Sears Jewish.
 
She's bankrupt ?
rgio

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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 9:18am

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She’s Sears Jewish.

Sort of like her dad is Christian...

Trump May Not Have Read Brief Because He Holds Reading Material Upside ...

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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 9:13am

 kurtster wrote:

You do know that Ivanka is Jewish ...

She’s Sears Jewish.


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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 9:10am

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 ColdMiser wrote:

Let Ken Jennings host the debate. "Donald you have $600 what is your answer? This game is rigged, no I'm sorry that is incorrect, what did you wager? $1000 which you don't have, so that puts you down to zero" 
Except that there would be a LOT more drama if Mayim Bialik hosted. Imagine him having to follow the instructions of a woman, a Jewish woman, to boot.
 
You do know that Ivanka is Jewish ...
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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 9:04am

 ColdMiser wrote:

Let Ken Jennings host the debate. "Donald you have $600 what is your answer? This game is rigged, no I'm sorry that is incorrect, what did you wager? $1000 which you don't have, so that puts you down to zero" 



Except that there would be a LOT more drama if Mayim Bialik hosted. Imagine him having to follow the instructions of a woman, a Jewish woman, to boot.

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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 7:46am

 Steely_D wrote:


 I agree that a Final Jeopardy fill-in-the-card-and-show-it format would be so flipping entertaining.

Let Ken Jennings host the debate. "Donald you have $600 what is your answer? This game is rigged, no I'm sorry that is incorrect, what did you wager? $1000 which you don't have, so that puts you down to zero" 

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Posted: Jun 17, 2024 - 8:38am

 rgio wrote:

American knowledge of all things political, both at home and abroad, is remedial compared to the rest of the world...especially Europe. Most Americans think they know what's going on because their news feed gives them the perspective they enjoy, but very few have a sense of things.   Euros, probably because of proximity, pay a lot closer attention.  I know one thing for sure, when I fly from Europe to the US, the average knowledge of politics increases in both places.

Arguing that because you're American, you know more about America, is one of our great problems.  We are growing myopically stupider by the day.

For the debates, I would love to see a few questions that are fact-based.  "Mr. Trump, who is the current leader of Germany, and what title do they go by?"  "Mr. Biden, who is the King of Saudi Arabia?"   I think Americans deserve to see how much each truly understands the players and the game.  

Give them buzzers... let's play political jeopardy.  We'll see how slow Joe is and how little Trump knows, all while learning a bit about the world around us.


That last bit about the debates has been on my mind for a while. Biden has an opportunity to show off his decades of experience with fact-based status quo information. Trump likes to fall back on “I can’t tell you because it’s a high level secret” which is horribly transparent - so a fact based debate, especially NOT based in asking about the future (TFG’s speciality: promise and never deliver. See also big beautiful wall that Mexico pays for, repeal and replace the ACA, etc), but asking about what is factual and straightforward and something that they should both know. I agree that a Final Jeopardy fill-in-the-card-and-show-it format would be so flipping entertaining.
rgio

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Posted: Jun 17, 2024 - 5:13am

 kcar wrote:
I'm far more informed than the average bear. 

American knowledge of all things political, both at home and abroad, is remedial compared to the rest of the world...especially Europe. Most Americans think they know what's going on because their news feed gives them the perspective they enjoy, but very few have a sense of things.   Euros, probably because of proximity, pay a lot closer attention.  I know one thing for sure, when I fly from Europe to the US, the average knowledge of politics increases in both places.

Arguing that because you're American, you know more about America, is one of our great problems.  We are growing myopically stupider by the day.

For the debates, I would love to see a few questions that are fact-based.  "Mr. Trump, who is the current leader of Germany, and what title do they go by?"  "Mr. Biden, who is the King of Saudi Arabia?"   I think Americans deserve to see how much each truly understands the players and the game.  

Give them buzzers... let's play political jeopardy.  We'll see how slow Joe is and how little Trump knows, all while learning a bit about the world around us.
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Posted: Jun 16, 2024 - 10:29pm

 kurtster wrote:

Are not you an American voter ?


I'm far more informed than the average bear. 
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Posted: Jun 16, 2024 - 7:35pm

 kcar wrote:
 kurtster wrote: American voters are remarkably ignorant when it comes to foreign policy. 
 
Are not you an American voter ?
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Posted: Jun 16, 2024 - 3:07pm

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Logic and Socrates were BFFs. Senator Logic from Abalama is an election denier.


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Posted: Jun 16, 2024 - 1:41pm

 kurtster wrote:

American voters are remarkably ignorant when it comes to foreign policy. They've also forgotten Trump's pattern of deferential behavior towards Putin as well as his irrational hatred of Ukraine. He was (is?) convinced that Ukraine hid Hilary Clinton's servers and contributed to intelligence concerns that his campaign was cooperating with Russians. Trump repeatedly stated he thought NATO was pointless, deliberately held up military aid to Ukraine and indicated that he would not necessarily commit to honoring the U.S.'s commitments to providing assistance to its allies—esp. Ukraine—in the event of an attack. 

There is next to nothing to support the notion that Putin was deterred from invading Ukraine because of Trump's presidency., 

Furthermore, there isn't a great deal of logic at work in Putin's invasion of Ukraine. His plan was based on the wildly unrealistic notion that the West would simply allow Russia to swallow Ukraine and that the Ukrainians would simply roll over. Putin assumed there'd be no long-term consequences. As things stand now, Russia has become a near vassal state of  China. 

The op-ed you referenced is also shockingly uniformed about Trump's responsibility for the collapse of Afghanistan. 


U.S. review of chaotic Afghanistan withdrawal blames Trump

Timeline of U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan

May 19, 2020 — In releasing its quarterly report on Afghanistan, the DOD inspector general’s office says the U.S. cut troop levels in Afghanistan by more than 4,000, even though “the Taliban escalated violence further after signing the agreement.”

“U.S. officials stated the Taliban must reduce violence as a necessary condition for continued U.S. reduction in forces and that remaining high levels of violence could jeopardize the U.S.-Taliban agreement,” according to the report, which covered activity from Jan. 1, 2020, to March 31, 2020. “Even still, the United States began to reduce its forces in Afghanistan from roughly 13,000 to 8,600.”

Aug. 18, 2020 — In releasing a report that covered activity in Afghanistan from April 1, 2020, to June 30, 2020, the Defense Department inspector general’s office says, “The Taliban did not appear to uphold its commitment to distance itself from terrorist organizations in Afghanistan. UN and U.S. officials reported that the Taliban continued to support al-Qaeda, and conducted joint attacks with al-Qaeda members against Afghan National Defense and Security Forces.”


Sept. 18, 2020 — At a press conference, Trump says, “We’re dealing very well with the Taliban. They’re very tough, they’re very smart, they’re very sharp. But, you know, it’s been 19 years, and even they are tired of fighting, in all fairness.”

Nov. 16, 2020 — Congressional Republicans, responding to news reports that the Trump administration will rapidly reduce forces in Afghanistan, warn of what Sen. Marco Rubio calls “a Saigon-type of situation” in Afghanistan. “A rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan now would hurt our allies and delight the people who wish us harm,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says.

Nov. 17, 2020 — Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller formally announces that the U.S. will reduce U.S. forces in Afghanistan to 2,500 by Jan. 15, 2021.

On the same day, the Defense Department IG’s office released a report for the quarter ending Sept. 30, 2020, that said the peace negotiations between the Afghan government and Taliban representatives had stalled and violence increased. “At the same time, the Taliban increased its attacks against Afghan forces, leading to ‘distressingly high’ levels of violence that could threaten the peace agreement,” the report said.

The IG report also continued to warn that the Taliban was apparently violating the withdrawal agreement. “This withdrawal is contingent on the Taliban abiding by its commitments under the agreement, which include not allowing terrorists to use Afghan soil to threaten the United States and its allies,” the report said. “However, it was unclear whether the Taliban was in compliance with the agreement, as members of al-Qaeda were integrated into the Taliban’s leadership and command structure.”

Jan. 15 — “Today, U.S. force levels in Afghanistan have reached 2,500,” Miller, the acting defense secretary, says in a statement. “his drawdown brings U.S. forces in the country to their lowest levels since 2001.”

Afghanistan’s First Vice President Amrullah Saleh tells the BBC that the Trump administration made too many concessions to the Taliban. “I am telling as a friend and as an ally that trusting the Taliban without putting in a verification mechanism is going to be a fatal mistake,” Saleh says, adding that Afghanistan leaders warned the U.S. that “violence will spike” as the 5,000 Taliban prisoners were released. “Violence has spiked,” he added.



Watchdog: US troop pullout was key factor in Afghan collapse
https://apnews.com/article/afg...

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In February 2020, the Trump administration signed an agreement with the Taliban in Doha, Qatar, in which the U.S. promised to fully withdraw its troops by May 2021. The Taliban committed to several conditions, including stopping attacks on American and coalition forces. The stated objective was to promote a peace negotiation between the Taliban and the Afghan government, but that diplomatic effort never gained traction before Biden took office in January 2022.

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Indeed, in the end, the new report said that the Afghans were still heavily dependent on U.S. air support for strikes and emergency evacuations, and also on U.S. contractors to maintain and repair aircraft and other systems.

But all agree that the Doha agreement was a lynchpin in the collapse.

“The signing of the Doha agreement had a really pernicious effect on the government of Afghanistan and on its military — psychological more than anything else, but we set a date-certain for when we were going to leave and when they could expect all assistance to end,” Gen. Frank McKenzie told Congress last year.

McKenzie, who was then the top U.S. general in the Middle East and has since retired, argued to keep 2,500 U.S. troops there, as did Milley.

The Doha agreement, said the SIGAR report, led the Afghan population and its military to feel abandoned. And the Trump administration’s decision to limit U.S. airstrikes against the Taliban stopped any progress the Afghans were making, and left them unable and eventually unwilling to hold territory, it said.


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Posted: Jun 16, 2024 - 7:14am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
moot point. I'm more worried about what he is signalling now.

Ahem.

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