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Herbie Hancock — Cantaloupe Island
Album: Cantaloupe Island
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8.3

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Total ratings: 4048









Released: 1964
Length: 5:20
Plays (last 30 days): 2
(Instrumental)
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 Proclivities wrote:

I don't think most "true" fans of any music genre care much about whether a song is accessible or not.



What does "painfully accessible" even mean?
a proud graduate of grinnell college in grinnell, iowa
 Proclivities wrote:

I don't think most "true" fans of any music genre care much about whether a song is accessible or not.


Agree.  To assume "that true jazz fans" must only love the obscure, inaccessible-by-the-masses sounds of avant garde jazz is to assume that jazz lovers are elitists and automatically reject anything that appeals to the intellectual peasantry.  I've heard Wynton Marsalis describe modern hiphop as reverently as he admires the complexities of the Bach concerto in D for Trumpet.  To love music is to love music, regardless of who else loves it, no?  Let's not create a cultural divide where one doesn't really exist
 Ihatethissong wrote:

So the average RP listener likes jazz?  really?


At RP everyone is above average!
 plat_ wrote:

hi hats be like

Not hearing hi-hat so much as ride cymbal...

Maybe some Herbie's 'Rockit' next time. 
hi hats be like
Awesome 
So much 10 for this song. Love Herbie!
 be4con wrote:
What RP has made me realise is that there are so many types and some of it I love, some I hate. It's lazy to proclaim I love jazz or I hate jazz. It's like saying I hate food.
 

This goes for just about any genre of music as far as I'm concerned. When I was younger I'd say "I hate country" or "I hate rap" but my knowledge of the genres was limited to commercial radio, and I later found out I was missing out on the good stuff!
OK Class, don't get your Cantaloupe and Watermelon mixed up
 rdkleine wrote:
Bidibidibob
 

Was just thinking the same thing!
 rdkleine wrote:
Bidibidibob whats that 


Let's hear "Rock It"! Haven't heard that in ages! had an awesome video as well.
Bidibidibob
 HectorPascal wrote:
Took me half a lifetime to really like this sort of stuff. Now I am giving it a good stiff 9. work that one out.
 
The prospect of working out a stiff 9 fills my mind with so many wrong thoughts
 stevesaw wrote:

That is such a good version!
 
They were mostly sampling Blue Note albums and hoping obscurity would keep them out of trouble.
Then one day, they got a phone call from someone at Blue Note.
**gulp**
"Hey, we notice you guys mostly use our stuff for samples . . ."
***oh boy, here comes the C&D! How much is this gonna cost us?***
"If you guys sign with us, we can get you cleaner samples and a bigger library to pull from."
um let us think on that . . . . YES!
A bit of jazz is a great thing, although experimental jazz (not this) has never been my thing; I just can't tell if they're any good or not.
 kremfresch wrote:
Even after over 20 years I still hear Us3's rap over this base.  "smooth fly, float like a butterfly"
 
That is such a good version!
 DaidyBoy wrote:

cely wrote:

9 for this is just obvious, but I do wonder what the true jazz folks think about something so painfully accessible.


I think that elitist  jazz "snobbery" is every bit as bulls%*t as is expressing disdain for folks who don't "get" Radiohead or Pink Floyd, or anything else for that matter.  Like Ihatethissong said below, you either like it or you don't.  It's not fair to bolt some kind of academic umbrella over it in an attempt to exclude us dumbasses.
 
TRUE Jazz fans respect everything Herbie Hancock gave to the music. His mastery and contribution are absolutely undeniable.  Jazz is the most fluid of musical forms. Anyone that claims to be a "true" jazz fan that only likes a certain subset or sub genre of jazz is no TRUE jazz fan. What MAKES (or made) artists like Herbie or Miles or Coltrane what they are/were is exactly what drives some of these people away when the artist in question moves on. If you love herbie Hancock, you should at least APPRECIATE evrything he brought to the music, from his early accompaniment, to his Headhunters material, to Rock-it. Same with Miles. If you like his bebop but hate his Tutu album, He left YOU behind, not the other way around. When Bebop came along the old guard reacted the same way.
Even after over 20 years I still hear Us3's rap over this base.  "smooth fly, float like a butterfly"
I do enjoy this piece -- gave it an 8. 

But if I could remix it, I would eliminate most of the cymbals......
 Ihatethissong wrote:
So the average RP listener likes jazz?  really?

I do.

Not all jazz.  Don't like the, maybe you call it avant garde jazz?  sometimes frenetic, usually sounding like musicians taking turns solo-ing their asses off.  Gets on my nerves.  I know they are supremely talented and skillful musicians and they are jamming together and there is joy in it, but I don't feel it.

this is what happens every time I think I have something worthwhile to say: I don't
 
Ths is pretty much how I feel about that sort of jazz, muscial onanism. What RP has made me realise is that there are so many types and some of it I love, some I hate. It's lazy to proclaim I love jazz or I hate jazz. It's like saying I hate food.

This tune is smooth as cocoa butter, and gets my vote. Other than that it's all pretty much about the drumming for me as far as jazz is concerned.
Took me half a lifetime to really like this sort of stuff. Now I am giving it a good stiff 9. work that one out.
This 1964 piece beats 99% of current offerings. What, really, is there to talk about?

cely wrote:

9 for this is just obvious, but I do wonder what the true jazz folks think about something so painfully accessible.

 Proclivities wrote:

I don't think most "true" fans of any music genre care much about whether a song is accessible or not.
 
I think that elitist  jazz "snobbery" is every bit as bulls%*t as is expressing disdain for folks who don't "get" Radiohead or Pink Floyd, or anything else for that matter.  Like Ihatethissong said below, you either like it or you don't.  It's not fair to bolt some kind of academic umbrella over it in an attempt to exclude us dumbasses.
wish Bill would play some track from River
particularly dig Tina Turner singing Joni
 idiot_wind wrote:
Just watched a documentary about the Blue Note label  and interview with Herbie and  Wayne  Shorter and  some younger players.

Nice to see them pay little deference to the old guys.   
 
saw that too....

"It must schwing"....
Just watched a documentary about the Blue Note label  and interview with Herbie and  Wayne  Shorter and  some younger players.

Nice to see them pay little deference to the old guys.   
 lizardking wrote:

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memoryboxer wrote:
I first came to this song through it's being sampled by US3 back in '92, for their break out single Cantaloop (Flip Fantasia). They used a lot of Blue Note catalogue samples in their amazing blend of jazz and hip hop. That they chose this sublime riff as their starting point only makes sense; such a fabulous groove. These days I'm equally happy with both Hancock and US3; just makes me smile and wanna bop.
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One of the reasons I really like sampled music in songs (and why I like a lot of older rap & R&B) is that it helps broaden ones musical landscape, often without knowing it.  Even if the original source is known, it helps pull out the sounds - and in the case of this song, I also had the US3 disc and as my love for jazz and blues blossomed a few years later, I too found a smile on my face when either the HH or the US3 track was playing, and I'm back in my early college years and it's pretty cool that a small song sample can create so much in such little space.  This HH track is a 9, and if the US3 track were played here, I'd probably rate it an 8.  Long Live RP!! 
 
Not unlike how Looney Tunes introduced many of us to classical music, including opera.

Really enjoyed US3's Cantaloop (and most of their album) when it came out, plus the fun remixes on the Get Shorty soundtrack. Had never really appreciated HH's work until a few years ago (listening to RP), liking it very much.
Funky funky. Great song
CLASSIC ALERT
 cely wrote:
9 for this is just obvious, but I do wonder what the true jazz folks think about something so painfully accessible.
 
I don't think most "true" fans of any music genre care much about whether a song is accessible or not.
 lizardking wrote:

One of the reasons I really like sampled music in songs (and why I like a lot of older rap & R&B) is that it helps broaden ones musical landscape, often without knowing it.  Even if the original source is known, it helps pull out the sounds - and in the case of this song, I also had the US3 disc and as my love for jazz and blues blossomed a few years later, I too found a smile on my face when either the HH or the US3 track was playing, and I'm back in my early college years and it's pretty cool that a small song sample can create so much in such little space.  This HH track is a 9, and if the US3 track were played here, I'd probably rate it an 8.  Long Live RP!! 
 
9.5 :) 
 memoryboxer wrote:
I first came to this song through it's being sampled by US3 back in '92, for their break out single Cantaloop (Flip Fantasia). They used a lot of Blue Note catalogue samples in their amazing blend of jazz and hip hop. That they chose this sublime riff as their starting point only makes sense; such a fabulous groove. These days I'm equally happy with both Hancock and US3; just makes me smile and wanna bop.
 
One of the reasons I really like sampled music in songs (and why I like a lot of older rap & R&B) is that it helps broaden ones musical landscape, often without knowing it.  Even if the original source is known, it helps pull out the sounds - and in the case of this song, I also had the US3 disc and as my love for jazz and blues blossomed a few years later, I too found a smile on my face when either the HH or the US3 track was playing, and I'm back in my early college years and it's pretty cool that a small song sample can create so much in such little space.  This HH track is a 9, and if the US3 track were played here, I'd probably rate it an 8.  Long Live RP!! 
Manhattan Transfer does  a cover of this piece acapella with lyrics.
So the average RP listener likes jazz?  really?

I do.

Not all jazz.  Don't like the, maybe you call it avant garde jazz?  sometimes frenetic, usually sounding like musicians taking turns solo-ing their asses off.  Gets on my nerves.  I know they are supremely talented and skillful musicians and they are jamming together and there is joy in it, but I don't feel it.

this is what happens every time I think I have something worthwhile to say: I don't
I first came to this song through it's being sampled by US3 back in '92, for their break out single Cantaloop (Flip Fantasia). They used a lot of Blue Note catalogue samples in their amazing blend of jazz and hip hop. That they chose this sublime riff as their starting point only makes sense; such a fabulous groove. These days I'm equally happy with both Hancock and US3; just makes me smile and wanna bop.
Yes!!! Herbie! He's coming to my country next November 15th, already have the tickets!!!
++++++++Still as great as ever!
10! Pure & simple!
another great Herbie Hancock track that would be great to hear on RP would be Maiden Voyage...
In my heart, I like rock.  But its seems only jazz can master such a sublime execution of both the simple and sophisticated.
 ojibwe wrote:
What's that?

 
Biddy biddy bop.
34 "1" votes...really?  I have to assume those 34 people were having a bad day.
9 for this is just obvious, but I do wonder what the true jazz folks think about something so painfully accessible.
Am not - and never have been - a jazz aficionado. Not even a fan really. But to give this anything less than a 10 is simply churlish.
Sublime and supreme.
Sublime. The essence of jazz. Love the eloquent earlier review along these lines. 
What's that?
Incredulous that I only gave this a 9 in the past!
 kingart wrote:

Not to change the subject, but to the Carlos Santana dissers on this site, who call him a noodler, etc., look at the 4 names on this album, and get even with the fact that Santana has played and recorded with them, multiple times.  He, Herbie, Ron Carter and Tony Williams have the tracks, the LPs and CDs to prove it. Just sayin'. 
 

 
{#Clap}
First heard this music sampled here.

Love it all!


 idiot_wind wrote:
This songs makes me want to walk down sidewalks of busy cities, dodging cars in the crosswalks.  All of this in black and white. 
 
That's cool, but I live and work in a city.  

This makes me want to sit on the porch of an isolated Appalachian cabin, in the sunshine, looking across the holler at fifty different shades of greenness .... with a cold slice of cantaloupe waiting.
 Shmelo wrote:
Tony WIlliams is a god. This is as good as it gets.

 
I had a ride cymbal, a Paiste Signature 22" Rough Ride, that sounded very much like Tony's "Nefertiti" ride. Probably should have kept that one.

Tony WIlliams is a god. This is as good as it gets.
 WonderLizard wrote:
Bill, remember dedications on Top 40 radio—like KEWB and KYA? If you took them, I'd send this one out to fredriley. This, my friend, is what jazz is all about—a simple melody embroidered gently with the merest suggestions of excursion. No, not all jazz is this ear friendly, but what is is worth seeking out.

 
"ear friendly" !  cheers (clink)

such beautiful music 
Sooooo cool this song is! {#Daisy} I'd like to be like it{#Wink}.
7 -> 8 -> 9

It is outstanding. Maybe not 100% my personal taste, but nevertheless. True art is not a question of personal preference.
 On_The_Beach wrote:
https://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/4024/cover_1542014122009.jpg

 
Not to change the subject, but to the Carlos Santana dissers on this site, who call him a noodler, etc., look at the 4 names on this album, and get even with the fact that Santana has played and recorded with them, multiple times.  He, Herbie, Ron Carter and Tony Williams have the tracks, the LPs and CDs to prove it. Just sayin'. 
 
Awesome.
This songs makes me want to walk down sidewalks of busy cities, dodging cars in the crosswalks.  All of this in black and white. 

And Herbie is a proud graduate of Grinell College in Grinell, Iowa! In the corn fields. 

But the city is located on old highway 6, which is the road Jack Kerouac hitch hiked to Denver, in "On The Road".

Go figure.  
i wish there was an eleven on here!
https://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/4024/cover_1542014122009.jpg
nothing like acoustic 
Legendary piece, eponymous with a better time and style  (which may never have existed).
timeless classic
 justin4kick wrote:
Funky, funky.

 
Us 3 get that
Funky, funky.
 Baby_M wrote:
This piece always gives me a melon-choly feeling.

 

{#Lol}
very nice to hear more jazz in this set! classic small venue vibe with amazing artists!   {#Drummer}{#Music}
Love HH, though yes, I do love US3 just as much
Billy billy bop 
 markhaneklaus wrote:

forget us3 herbie has a lot more to offer

 
Wait, wait a minute!
This piece always gives me a melon-choly feeling.
man, after a day like today, this is balm for the soul.  Thank you.
:-)
Like a simpering dog barking incredulously at a full-speed and unstoppable train, I rate this piece of Greatness and Truth a 10.

Freddie Hubbard on trumpet.  He had an gorgeous fat, brassy tone that was instantly recognizable to those familiar with his work. 
Herbie's the man  one of my favorites
Just gorgeous...
 WonderLizard wrote:
This, my friend, is what jazz is all about—a simple melody embroidered gently with the merest suggestions of excursion. No, not all jazz is this ear friendly, but what is is worth seeking out.
 
Up voted. Thumbed up. Smiley added. Link shared. Promoted comment. All that stuff.

Well said Lizard, well said. 
Bill, remember dedications on Top 40 radio—like KEWB and KYA? If you took them, I'd send this one out to fredriley. This, my friend, is what jazz is all about—a simple melody embroidered gently with the merest suggestions of excursion. No, not all jazz is this ear friendly, but what is is worth seeking out.
More of the Genius please....and throw in some Chick Corea...
 
So much cooler than arcade fire, played just two songs ago...
One of the coolest funky Jazz grooves ever! Right up there with Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Art Blakey & the other Jazz Greats. Dig it!
 Businessgypsy wrote:
 Ballzak wrote:
"Ok kids, lets learn how to play a musical instrument.  We'll start at the beginning, call it ground Zero.  If you ever want to know where the full potential of music is, here, listen to this piece.  Maybe someday you can make something THIS good.  Let's start practicing..."
Appreciate your appreciation, but to counter I'd say that this piece is a wonderful illustration of the limits of technique, in and of itself. Practice will get you to the launch pad, but it takes soul, art and intuitive communication between artists to ascend to the heavens revealed in this performance. Not sure that can be taught as much as nurtured, but we're all fortunate enough to hear it being captured from time to time.

 
Awesome song, and comments worthy of a bump to the top:)
Jim_Messenger wrote:
Every time RP plays this I get the urge to play Sim City.  

 
Transport Tycoon :)
{#Daisy} {#Daisy} {#Daisy}   classic, wonderful sound
great sound
 The_Walrus wrote:
First heard the US3 cover of this and keep waiting for someone to sing "Funky Funky"!

 
forget us3 herbie has a lot more to offer
Yes! As not a fan of free jazz, i like this very much!
Every time RP plays this I get the urge to play Sim City.  
First heard the US3 cover of this and keep waiting for someone to sing "Funky Funky"!
{#Bananapiano}something more from Herbie, please. love this cut but more have been recorded.
Nice, although, I find the sound of the ride cymbal distracting.  Sounds a little too trashy.
{#Notworthy}
 Ballzak wrote:
"Ok kids, lets learn how to play a musical instrument.  We'll start at the beginning, call it ground Zero.  If you ever want to know where the full potential of music is, here, listen to this piece.  Maybe someday you can make something THIS good.  Let's start practicing..."
Appreciate your appreciation, but to counter I'd say that this piece is a wonderful illustration of the limits of technique, in and of itself. Practice will get you to the launch pad, but it takes soul, art and intuitive communication between artists to ascend to the heavens revealed in this performance. Not sure that can be taught as much as nurtured, but we're all fortunate enough to hear it being captured from time to time.
funky-funkay!
 Cynaera wrote:
Oooooh - MORE!  This, after Mocean Worker's "Right Now" - how's a person s'posed to get anything productive done???      *starts conga line and spikes the punch with Captain Morgan's Spiced Rum* {#Dancingbanana}
 

miss you so much, Cynaera...

love this groovy music...
 
With Freddie Hubbard, the A-maz-ing Ron Carter and Tony Williams. Absolutely Great Stuff
Simply superb!  {#Cheers}

Highlow
American Net'Zen
it is not possable to get better than this......{#Dance} soul, jazz , gospel, rock ...it's all here, just listen.....{#Fire}
GodLike! ALWAYS!   {#Notworthy}
Love that trumpet.
 roscoe wrote:
Same texture and feel of "Maiden Voyage" which is one of my all time faves.
 
Yah, I was thinking "Watermelon Man". All three are great.
Groovy.  
 scrubbrush wrote:
Biddy-biddy-bop!

 
Funky!{#Dance}
Biddy-biddy-bop!
More like this, please,  a cool friday afternoon groove.

cheers! 
 MartinN wrote:
Like a massage to the ears  {#Yes}

 
Oh, yes!! :-)
Sooooo cool music!! So cool:-). I like it a lot. Thank you, RP.
 drewd wrote:
This is what a 10 sounds like.......!!!!!!
 
What (s)he said!

"Ok kids, lets learn how to play a musical instrument.  We'll start at the beginning, call it ground Zero.  If you ever want to know where the full potential of music is, here, listen to this piece.  Maybe someday you can make something THIS good.  Let's start practicing..."


A classic, performed by a classic.
Love love love! this
Same texture and feel of "Maiden Voyage" which is one of my all time faves.
This is what a 10 sounds like.......!!!!!!
Such a great song!
Genius!!!  {#Notworthy}
This tune has such a positive feeling of movement to it. Really great.