Who ever is being deported is being put through the proper processes before they are sent home. If there is a legal reason for deportation what is wrong with that ?
Everyone as far as I know has received their due process before removal ever since the fiasco with "The Maryland Dad".
Just because someone has applied to be a citizen does not stop one from being deported with cause. Are you trying to tell me that just because they filled out an application makes them exempt from removal ?
Are you one of those who wants no one deported at all ?
Getting back to the original issue.
I’m just saying with the indiscriminate mass deportation of legal immigrants who you previously made a point to say you had no issue with that group… Trump’s policy is at complete odds with what you advertised as your own view.
This led me to my opinion that you don’t have a moral compass or hold to any core set of beliefs that you can’t abandon in a split second given the whims of this administration. You’re not a stand-up guy, no matter what you might tell yourself.
Please show me where I said that and which group you say was involved. I honestly don't know what you are talking about.
And again, are you against any and all deportations ?
Who ever is being deported is being put through the proper processes before they are sent home. If there is a legal reason for deportation what is wrong with that ?
Everyone as far as I know has received their due process before removal ever since the fiasco with "The Maryland Dad".
Just because someone has applied to be a citizen does not stop one from being deported with cause. Are you trying to tell me that just because they filled out an application makes them exempt from removal ?
Are you one of those who wants no one deported at all ?
Getting back to the original issue. Iâm just saying with the indiscriminate mass deportation of legal immigrants who you previously made a point to say you had no issue with that group⦠Trumpâs policy is at complete odds with what you advertised as your own view. This led me to my opinion that you donât have a moral compass or hold to any core set of beliefs that you canât abandon in a split second given the whims of this administration. Youâre not a stand-up guy, no matter what you might tell yourself.
That has not changed. I do not see Trump taking people out regardless of status as you say. Tell me why you say that.
He is deporting people (not just those trying to illegally cross our border) who are/were in the process of trying to become citizens or are you going to try and pretend you don’t know that?
Who ever is being deported is being put through the proper processes before they are sent home. If there is a legal reason for deportation what is wrong with that ?
Everyone as far as I know has received their due process before removal ever since the fiasco with "The Maryland Dad".
Just because someone has applied to be a citizen does not stop one from being deported with cause. Are you trying to tell me that just because they filled out an application makes them exempt from removal ?
Are you one of those who wants no one deported at all ?
In Wednesdayâs incident, the Customs spokesman said agents stopped the woman because they determined the car she was driving belonged to her boyfriend, who the agency said is in the country illegally. Customs has not named the boyfriend. Regalado said the woman refused to roll down her window initially, and after she did, refused to hand agents her driverâs license. Once she was out of the car, Regalado said agents found her license, ran it through their database and confirmed she is a U.S. citizen. She was then released and drove away.
All she had to do was comply with legal lawful orders from the police in an organized traffic stop and she would not have been subjected to being arrested and all of that involves. Simple as that. So this is really about a stupid person not following directions. Nothing more.
just stay quiet or cheer on the jackboots. You can keep hoping they won't turn on you, but they will. They don't like you either, they just haven't gotten to you yet.
None of the detained individuals had criminal histories, according to their lawyers.
Examples include:
A pregnant woman from the United Kingdom.
A spouse married to an activeâduty Navy sailor.
A father of an autistic teenager who relied on him for dayâtoâday care.
This isn't making anyone safer. It's hostile thuggery that destroys the foundational fabric of a country. If you want people to follow rules, you have to respect them as well.
Agreed. Hostility, thuggery & cruelty are all things Trump embraces and... by extension... all his mindless followers embrace.
He is deporting people (not just those trying to illegally cross our border) who are/were in the process of trying to become citizens or are you going to pretend you donât know that?
People showing up for immigration process meetings are being detained and deported.
None of the detained individuals had criminal histories, according to their lawyers.
Examples include:
A pregnant woman from the United Kingdom.
A spouse married to an activeâduty Navy sailor.
A father of an autistic teenager who relied on him for dayâtoâday care.
This isn't making anyone safer. It's hostile thuggery that destroys the foundational fabric of a country. If you want people to follow rules, you have to respect them as well.
That has not changed. I do not see Trump taking people out regardless of status as you say.
Tell me why you say that.
He is deporting people (not just those trying to illegally cross our border) who are/were in the process of trying to become citizens or are you going to try and pretend you donât know that?
Case in point. I remember not too long ago when you made a huge stink about the
difference between illegal aliens and “legal” aliens and how the latter were doing the right thing and were necessary.
Now that the Trump administration is hell-bent on rounding up and throwing all aliens out regardless of status (though seemingly no Russian ones… go figure) you quickly dropped your distinction. What changed there Kurt? Do you hold any principals at all that couldn’t be abandoned in a split-second the moment that a Trump policy is at odds with it? No need to answer… that’s called a rhetorical question.
That has not changed. I do not see Trump taking people out regardless of status as you say.
You know kurtster what I find so funny about you is that you are so willing to abandon any logic or principals or morals or positions you once held the moment that Trump does an about-face on them. Then you zipper your mouth shut and play ball just like any good mindless MAGA sycophant would.
Case in point. I remember not too long ago when you made a huge stink about the difference between illegal aliens and âlegalâ aliens and how the latter were doing the right thing and were necessary. Now that the Trump administration is hell-bent on rounding up and throwing all aliens out regardless of status (though seemingly no Russian ones⦠go figure) you quickly dropped your distinction. What changed there Kurt? Do you hold any principals at all that couldnât be abandoned in a split-second the moment that a Trump policy is at odds with it? No need to answer⦠thatâs called a rhetorical question.
Not that you give a rat's ass about this but we're still looking for the approximately 300,000 children that Biden lost.
Never mind that you're wrong again, just saying whatever the company line is. I can't tell if that thing you want us to be upset about means you're also upset about this one kid whose situation is completely different, or if you agree it's heinous but you're busy worrying about this other thing because you can only care about one thing at a time.
No I was not wrong again. I researched that number before posting and saw what you saw. The numbers needs context and interpretation, yet it is still correct.
And regarding the meme that this started with, the context also matters. . Father, 6-year-old son allegedly separated after being detained by ICE in NYC . A Chinese father and son from Astoria, Queens, were allegedly separated after they were detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents following a scheduled immigration hearing at 26 Federal Plaza in Manhattan. ...
Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement Fei and his son were "given a lawful order of removal as a family unit," but she alleges Fei "refused to board the plane and was acting so disruptive and aggressive that he endangered the child's wellbeing. He even attempted to escape and abandon his son."
McLaughlin added, in part, "ICE does not separate families. This is consistent with past administrations' immigration enforcement. Parents are asked if they want to be removed with their children or ICE will place the children with a safe person the parent designates."
A bit of a different take, eh ? Everything done by the numbers. The father was being lawfully removed via due process and knew what the consequences were. He willfully surrendered his son by choosing to not taking him with him. And also what is missing is what about the child's mother ? Who is she and where is she ? What is her legal status ? Why did not the son go to her ?
Now you have no problem fact checking me but what about dave ? You and everyone else gives him a pass with a wink and a nod to keep up his good work of turning this place into his version of the National Enquirer.
I've just provided a meaningful context to two of his very recent memes. You may or may not have drawn different conclusions afterwards versus what was intended by the memes, but at least you know the whole story. If you take his memes at face value and believe them as presented, you are misleading yourself into uninformed conclusions. Do you blindly take them as truth because it serves as your personal bias confirmation and that is as far as you need to know ?
And that begs a question. Is dave misleading himself and constantly seeking and blindly providing himself with bias confirmation or is he doing this just for the sake of trying to be the center of attention via his "helpful" posts ?
Whatever, go ahead and take everything posted by your side at face value and question everything I say instead. Same as it always was. But at least I stood up and stated my case and will continue as I usually do. I'm willing to dig are you ?
Sidebar : The wife will sometimes asks me about stuff like this that shows up on her FB page and then I ask her where did it come from and did you look up anything regarding the point being presented ? Up until a couple of years or so ago, her answer was not really. But she has since learned how to dig and figure them out by herself. Now, I get asked much less often about " did you see this ? "
Yeah, I generally look up numbers and things before posting. I know the scrutiny I will face. I do not nor have ever deliberately tried to mislead anyone here intentionally contrary to endless accusations.
In Wednesday’s incident, the Customs spokesman said agents stopped the woman because they determined the car she was driving belonged to her boyfriend, who the agency said is in the country illegally. Customs has not named the boyfriend. Regalado said the woman refused to roll down her window initially, and after she did, refused to hand agents her driver’s license. Once she was out of the car, Regalado said agents found her license, ran it through their database and confirmed she is a U.S. citizen. She was then released and drove away.
All she had to do was comply with legal lawful orders from the police in an organized traffic stop and she would not have been subjected to being arrested and all of that involves. Simple as that. So this is really about a stupid person not following directions. Nothing more.
Not that you give a rat's ass about this but we're still looking for the approximately 300,000 children that Biden lost.
Never mind that you're wrong again, just saying whatever the company line is. I can't tell if that thing you want us to be upset about means you're also upset about this one kid whose situation is completely different, or if you agree it's heinous but you're busy worrying about this other thing because you can only care about one thing at a time.
