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Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 10:08pm

Paul explains here that if he did this to a Taliban combatant in Afghanistan, after having clearly disarmed him, he would have been court-martialed and gone to jail.
Worth listening to him. He's angry. Everyone should be.

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 4:24pm

Gofundme for Alex Pretti's family.
steeler

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 2:10pm

Police and thieves in the street
Scarin' the nation with their guns and ammunition
Police and thieves in the streets
Fightin’ the nation with their guns and ammunition

. . .
You start wearing the blue and brown
And you're working for the clampdown



Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 1:33pm

 kcar wrote:


Yes, I know it's easy to dredge up comparisons with the Nazis but...

In the early days of their rule, the Nazis decided they needed to remove mentally disabled people from Germany's population to preserve racial purity and genetic excellence. The mentally disabled were placed in homes—supposedly to protect them—and then quietly killed by the Nazis. 

The government monitored civilian reaction to the deaths and determined that Germans were willing to have mass extermination and disappearances in their midst, paving the way for the concentration camps. 

I keep saying this, but the ICE patrols—always in great numbers, always masked, always very heavily armed—are dress rehearsals for police-state intervention in our society, especially at the times of elections. IF we have any more elections. 

And we are sleeping-walking our way into fascism. 

Yes, to condition the population to the normalcy of a police state.

kcar

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 1:29pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


This country's chronic under reaction to this madness it getting entirely too dangerous.


Yes, I know it's easy to dredge up comparisons with the Nazis but...

In the early days of their rule, the Nazis decided they needed to remove mentally disabled people from Germany's population to preserve racial purity and genetic excellence. The mentally disabled were placed in homes—supposedly to protect them—and then quietly killed by the Nazis. 

The government monitored civilian reaction to the deaths and determined that Germans were willing to have mass extermination and disappearances in their midst, paving the way for the concentration camps. 

I keep saying this, but the ICE patrols—always in great numbers, always masked, always very heavily armed—are dress rehearsals for police-state intervention in our society, especially at the times of elections. IF we have any more elections. 

And we are sleeping-walking our way into fascism. 
buddy

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 1:19pm

 islander wrote:


I don't know where this will go. I hope this will be the death that gets enough people to pull back and see what's going on and turn back toward normalcy.  I fear this is just like Sandy Hook. It will be proof that we are too far gone. We can witness the horror and casually call uber eats for a snack and go on with our lives. As long as the snack is there on time, nothing will change. If Sandy Hook couldn't change minds on guns, how will one (more) murder in the street make a difference?

What will likely happen, right here in this Paradise Forum, and elsewhere, will be the usual “justification” that he shouldn’t have shown up there that moment, shouldn’t have “impeded police work”, shouldn’t have said anything, and shouldn’t have had a (legal) weapon. That he had no business walking down that public street or having an interest in what was going on right there in his own community. That he got what was coming to him. Or perhaps he had no business existing at all.
 
So now he doesn’t exist at all. Who “wins” here?  No one wins. A citizen was murdered in broad daylight on a city street with witnesses & video evidence.  Most likely nothing will happen, no one will be held accountable. Because it’s just another “normalized” day in Trump’s America. 




Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 1:02pm

 islander wrote:


I don't know where this will go. I hope this will be the death that gets enough people to pull back and see what's going on and turn back toward normalcy.  I fear this is just like Sandy Hook. It will be proof that we are too far gone. We can witness the horror and casually call uber eats for a snack and go on with our lives. As long as the snack is there on time, nothing will change. If Sandy Hook couldn't change minds on guns, how will one (more) murder in the street make a difference?


I fear you may be correct.
islander

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 12:59pm

 Steely_D wrote:

Watch this. It’s the murder, taped by the pink coat woman.
If someone knows how to embed, that would be nice. 
 https://files.catbox.moe/sp296...




I don't know where this will go. I hope this will be the death that gets enough people to pull back and see what's going on and turn back toward normalcy.  I fear this is just like Sandy Hook. It will be proof that we are too far gone. We can witness the horror and casually call uber eats for a snack and go on with our lives. As long as the snack is there on time, nothing will change. If Sandy Hook couldn't change minds on guns, how will one (more) murder in the street make a difference?
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 12:42pm


Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 12:32pm

Watch this. It’s the murder, taped by the pink coat woman.
If someone knows how to embed, that would be nice. 
 https://files.catbox.moe/sp296...


islander

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 12:22pm

 Steely_D wrote:


It's going back to the old question, "if you could time travel would you kill Hitler as a child?"
Although you can guess I'm not one to advocate for violence, it's clear that this is a movement that's not diminishing and is a literal threat to legal peaceful American citizens. Strongly worded blog posts are useless. Laws, in fact, are useless - thanks to the senile loser felon rapist.
There's an appropriate amount of recoil when I suggest responding to the violence with something violent, but complaining or singing protest songs while marching into the cattle cars or being lined up in front of your grave seems like a poor choice.


I'm with you. Playing by a different set of rules is what got us here. Responding within the bounds allowed to actions that are outside the bounds will not bring order back.  They aren't looking for an opportunity to be reasonable - they have that everyday. They are looking for a chance to be unreasonable.  
Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 12:17pm

Here’s more on the ICU nurse being killed in Minneapolis today.
1) had a permit and a gun, which is legal;
2) the gun had already been taken from him by ICE;
3) after beating him up including hitting him repeatedly with a gun; 
4) two officers have their guns pulled;
5) and he’s murdered in cold blood.
Awaiting the government’s usual “he deserved it, right?”

https://bsky.app/profile/belli...


Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 12:09pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

Shocked, SHOCKED that this collection of Proud Boys and KKK and incels don’t follow the law when they don’t feel like it.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 11:40am

The authority for this is based on the Immigration and Nationality Act 287(a)(3) and copied in 8 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 287 (a)(3), which states that Immigration Officers, without a warrant, may "within a reasonable distance from any external boundary of the United States...board and search for non-citizens in any vessel within the territorial waters of the United States and any railcar, aircraft, conveyance, or vehicle. 8 CFR 287 (a)(1) defines reasonable distance as 100 air miles from the border.
Welly

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 10:33am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


This country's chronic under reaction to this madness it getting entirely too dangerous.


Watching it from the outside, it sure seems that way.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 10:20am

 Steely_D wrote:


It's going back to the old question, "if you could time travel would you kill Hitler as a child?"
Although you can guess I'm not one to advocate for violence, it's clear that this is a movement that's not diminishing and is a literal threat to legal peaceful American citizens. Strongly worded blog posts are useless. Laws, in fact, are useless - thanks to the senile loser felon rapist.
There's an appropriate amount of recoil when I suggest responding to the violence with something violent, but complaining or singing protest songs while marching into the cattle cars or being lined up in front of your grave seems like a poor choice.


This country's chronic under reaction to this madness it getting entirely too dangerous.
Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 10:15am

 islander wrote:


I'm still waiting on the uprising of all those guys saying "we need our automatic weapons to protect us from tyranny".  As you said, it only matters when the aggression is pointed toward them. They care nothing about the oppression of others (in fact, they seem to enjoy it). But there will come a time when they kick in the door of someone who is prepared. I'm really surprised it hasn't happened yet. That person will die, but it will make a statement.


It's going back to the old question, "if you could time travel would you kill Hitler as a child?"
Although you can guess I'm not one to advocate for violence, it's clear that this is a movement that's not diminishing and is a literal threat to legal peaceful American citizens. Strongly worded blog posts are useless. Laws, in fact, are useless - thanks to the senile loser felon rapist.
There's an appropriate amount of recoil when I suggest responding to the violence with something violent, but complaining or singing protest songs while marching into the cattle cars or being lined up in front of your grave seems like a poor choice.
islander

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 9:56am

 Steely_D wrote:


Yeah, but let’s not get distracted picking on kurtster. We’ve got a big ass problem. Remember that there’s a vocal minority of the nation that wants this to be happening. Until it turns on them, of course.

I’ve been suggesting that, in lieu of actually throwing balloons filled with bleach or ammonia at these Nazis - the ones in camo with automatic weapons terrorizing and kidnapping and killing American citizens so, yes, they deserve a real retaliation with a real threat that they understand more than a simple meme - people should at least be hosing them down with sprinklers so the Minnesota winter has its way with them.



I'm still waiting on the uprising of all those guys saying "we need our automatic weapons to protect us from tyranny".  As you said, it only matters when the aggression is pointed toward them. They care nothing about the oppression of others (in fact, they seem to enjoy it). But there will come a time when they kick in the door of someone who is prepared. I'm really surprised it hasn't happened yet. That person will die, but it will make a statement.
Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 9:33am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


kurt's Amerika


Yeah, but let’s not get distracted picking on kurtster. We’ve got a big ass problem. Remember that there’s a vocal minority of the nation that wants this to be happening. Until it turns on them, of course.

I’ve been suggesting that, in lieu of actually throwing balloons filled with bleach or ammonia at these Nazis - the ones in camo with automatic weapons terrorizing and kidnapping and killing American citizens so, yes, they deserve a real retaliation with a real threat that they understand more than a simple meme - people should at least be hosing them down with sprinklers so the Minnesota winter has its way with them.

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 24, 2026 - 9:26am

 Steely_D wrote:

Watch the video from today. First they assault this man mercilessly, then THEY MURDER HIM. Why are masked men in camouflage with noise suppressors on automatic weapons invading American cities and provoking violence where there was none? 

https://bsky.app/profile/altnp...



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