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Posted: Feb 27, 2014 - 10:23pm

Weltbank stoppt Kredit für Uganda - Die Zeit
Aus Protest gegen das ugandische Anti-Homosexuellen-Gesetz verweigert die Weltbank die Auszahlung von 90 Millionen Dollar – ein seltener Schritt der Institution.

World Bank stops credit for Uganda
The World Bank refuses the transfer of 90 million dollars in protest of the Ugandan Anti-Gay Law - a step the institution rarely takes
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Posted: Feb 26, 2014 - 4:28am

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My, aren't we testy and blasé this morning. {#Wink} I believe it was you who said the lawmakers were the fundamentalists, and me pointing out the highlighted bits.

Have a coffee. {#Mrgreen}

 

Sorry to come off that way, I am actually in a good mood this morning.  However I do believe that a lot of their leaders are fundamentalist in particular the Mullahs in the Islamic countries.  What is going on in Africa is an already culturally embedded fear of homosexuality being exploited and inflamed by fundamentalist evangelicals and as noted before some of them American in origin.  As far as the Hindu and Buddhist regions of India and Asia, I admit I don't know very much about what is driving them and was surprised to see these laws in place in those regions.
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Posted: Feb 26, 2014 - 4:15am

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If you are trying to equate domestic conservatives to other fundamentilist leaders abroad as some type of news to me, it is not. I believe that is what we call a no brainer.  Fundamentilism is fundamentalism regardless of the geography or the religion it is being unleased at and through.  You must acknowledge that the pampering would not exist without the religion driving the people to believe the tripe and demanding their leaders to act accordingly.  And your point about the lawmakers being cynical and opportunistic, well the sky is blue......
 
My, aren't we testy and blasé this morning. {#Wink} I believe it was you who said the lawmakers were the fundamentalists, and me pointing out the highlighted bits.

Have a coffee. {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Feb 26, 2014 - 4:02am

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I doubt that. At least in some cases the 'lawmakers' are just cynically and opportunistically pampering to some portion of the people for power.

PS: See conservative lawmakers supporting anti-equality legislation only to be found out later as having 'unnatural inclinations'... {#Wink}

 

If you are trying to equate domestic conservatives to other fundamentilist leaders abroad as some type of news to me, it is not. I believe that is what we call a no brainer.  Fundamentilism is fundamentalism regardless of the geography or the religion it is being unleased at and through.  You must acknowledge that the pampering would not exist without the religion driving the people to believe the tripe and demanding their leaders to act accordingly.  And your point about the lawmakers being cynical and opportunistic, well the sky is blue......
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 12:42pm

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The ones making the laws are.  I don't believe that all the citizens in this region feel this strongly, but that is what happens when you mix religion and government.
 
I doubt that. At least in some cases the 'lawmakers' are just cynically and opportunistically pampering to some portion of the people for power.

PS: See conservative lawmakers supporting anti-equality legislation only to be found out later as having 'unnatural inclinations'... {#Wink}
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 12:38pm

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And Muslims. {#Yes} Though I would substitute ignorant for fundamentalist.

 
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 12:27pm

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And Hindus and Buddhists. They're not all fundamentalists either, however they are all religious of one flavour or another.

 

The ones making the laws are.  I don't believe that all the citizens in this region feel this strongly, but that is what happens when you mix religion and government.
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 12:25pm

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And Muslims. {#Yes} Though I would substitute ignorant for fundamentalist.
 
And Hindus and Buddhists. They're not all fundamentalists either, however they are all religious of one flavour or another.
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 12:15pm

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Just look at all those ignorant Christians...

 

And Muslims. {#Yes} Though I would substitute ignorant for fundamentalist.
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 12:12pm

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This is not just a Ugandan issue:



 
Just look at all those ignorant Christians...
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 12:09pm

This is not just a Ugandan issue:  (notice how this could also be a map for devout fundamentalist religions?)




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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 9:15am

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Actually a couple of years ago I saw a documentary about evangelical missionaries that have been working hard in Africa for some time now pushing this shi'te.  Looks like their efforts are sadly being rewarded.{#Headache}
 
I think there was a documentary about the first one that follows:

Lou Engle
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 9:03am

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In a snippet of a movie, there are more well-known bigots like that (easily found through a bit of research).

 

Actually a couple of years ago I saw a documentary about evangelical missionaries that have been working hard in Africa for some time now pushing this shi'te.  Looks like their efforts are sadly being rewarded.{#Headache}
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 8:58am

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Not defending such hate, but I saw only one missionary...
 
In a snippet of a movie, there are more well-known bigots like that (easily found through a bit of research).
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 8:53am

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There was a small, though interesting response in Arizona, in a link I posted yesterday

 

{#Lol}If you look down at the gay post below you will see there is actually some good news on this front.
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 8:43am

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Instead of giving moral speeches to Uganda telling them what they should think perhaps we should be apologizing to them for this and direct our moral speeches to our own people who we have some sway over like Arizona.

 
There was a small, though interesting response in Arizona, in a link I posted yesterday
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 8:31am

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Unlike homosexuality, it appears this kind of bigotry and stupidity is contagious. {#Wink}

 

Yes I know.{#Sad} I don't think it is going to make it through but what is shocking is that some Democrats support it WTF??
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 8:26am

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How US evangelical missionaries wage war on gay people in Uganda – video
Sorry, your browser is unable to play this video.

 
Not defending such hate, but I saw only one missionary...
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 8:26am

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Instead of giving moral speeches to Uganda telling them what they should think perhaps we should be apologizing to them for this and direct our moral speeches to our own people who we have some sway over like Arizona.
  
Unlike homosexuality, it appears this kind of bigotry and stupidity is contagious. {#Wink}
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Posted: Feb 25, 2014 - 8:17am

 RichardPrins wrote:
How US evangelical missionaries wage war on gay people in Uganda – video
Sorry, your browser is unable to play this video.

 

Instead of giving moral speeches to Uganda telling them what they should think perhaps we should be apologizing to them for this and direct our moral speeches to our own people who we have some sway over like Arizona.
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