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We spoke of was and when
Although I wasn't there
He said I was his friend
Which came as a surprise
I spoke into his eyes
I thought you died alone
A long long time ago
Oh no, not me
We never lost control
You're face, to face
With the man who sold the world
I laughed and shook his hand
And made my way back home
I searched for form and land
For years and years I roamed
I gazed a gaze-less stare
We walked a million hills
I must have died alone
A long long time ago
Who knows, not me
I never lost control
You're face, to face
With the man who sold the world
Who knows, not me
We never lost control
You're face, to face
With the man who sold the world
What with that and 'New Salvation' there's definitely a message in there!
Hey! I think I'm understanding a theme in the past few songs ...
VOTE 2020.
And 2024!
Personally I can't see the point of a cover which is essentially a note-for-note facsimile of the original (apart from the woeful guitar solo).
And the point of one that isn't is what?
lol
The point of a cover is an attempt at least to reinterpret the original, to put one's own stamp on it, to find something different in the original or a different way of expressing it. As a rather pertinent example, I give you Tori Amos's wonderful version of "Smells Like Teen Spirit".
Hey aren't those the Foo Fighters guys behind Kurt? They look so young! Kurt hasn't changed a bit.
I'd say Kurt has drastically changed a lot since then. Maybe depending on how much formaldehyde they used.
And it happened just like that, again, after 7 years...
Lady Grinning Soul by Bowie followed by The Man Who Sold The World in the style of Nirvana...
BillG is not a shuffle algorithm, he's a master DJ.
I have said before, and I may well say it again. Anyone pointing out that BillG "re-uses" transitions is missing the point. Mere mortals think in songs, BillG thinks in song sets.
So sometimes he'll bring in something like 3 songs that were matched before and then transition to 2 other songs that were matched before. Sometimes he'lll do two songs and I'll think I know what the third is, and I'll be wrong, and it'll be just as good of a transition. And often, the songs that "always" appear next to each other are so good (as here with Bowie and Nirvana covering Bowie) that I always like it.
Okay, we have two comments to deal with here:
I can't deal with how wrong this is. Literally the ONLY things that are possibly similar to the original are the actual notes. The tone of the piece, the vocals (which are a choice, let's be clear), literally EVERYTHING ELSE is Cobain's own.
How can you play this right after Bowie? Is it to highlight how sad Cobain's voice is? Such an inferior cover. Thank you for the PSD button.
Can I say that I completely agree with your take on this - and an average rating of 7.8 suggests we are not alone. BUT I'm more impressed with how you dealt with two comments in one reply - HOW DID YOU ACTUALLY DO THAT? I have trouble with keeping my own comments in the right place
Edweirdo wrote:
Personally I can't see the point of a cover which is essentially a note-for-note facsimile of the original (apart from the woeful guitar solo).
I can't deal with how wrong this is. Literally the ONLY things that are possibly similar to the original are the actual notes. The tone of the piece, the vocals (which are a choice, let's be clear), literally EVERYTHING ELSE is Cobain's own.
Larrygrrl wrote:
How can you play this right after Bowie? Is it to highlight how sad Cobain's voice is? Such an inferior cover. Thank you for the PSD button.
Personally I can't see the point of a cover which is essentially a note-for-note facsimile of the original (apart from the woeful guitar solo).
And the point of one that isn't is what?
lol
Personally I can't see the point of a cover which is essentially a note-for-note facsimile of the original (apart from the woeful guitar solo).
Particularly the opening bum note, horrible entry level mistake.
What??
I have the bonafides as someone who saw David live 18 times and has every record he ever put out - now matter how rare - to say how moved i was to hear this great groundbreaking band launch into this tune when I saw it live in '94. Kurt had the "right" idols, as most great artists, they recognize another one.
It's all acoustic guitars on this - even the bass (and cello). Granted, they are acoustics with pick-ups installed in them, and Cobain's has more gain applied during the riff parts to get that overdriven sound, but there are no solid-body (fully) electric guitars on this recording. Still. it's not technically "unplugged", though very few of the performances of "Unplugged" actually were anyhow.
To truly be "unplugged" they should have made them sing into a megaphone, am I right?
classic and that is saying something
VOTE 2020.
Funny, especially since he says, "That was a David Bowie song," at the end.
To me 8 - Most Excellent
And it happened just like that, again, after 7 years...
Lady Grinning Soul by Bowie followed by The Man Who Sold The World in the style of Nirvana...
And it just happened again, nine months later. Is AI taking over rp? or laziness?
Anyhow, I always think about mowing when I hear this album. That and flying, but that's a different story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
In general I would find it great if Bill would play some stuff from Adam Ben.
Especially the Tango is a 10 straight in my opinion!
Agreed, and whoever substituted that sax riff. Except it goes on a chorus too long.
I was thinking the exact same thing!
And it happened just like that, again, after 7 years...
Lady Grinning Soul by Bowie followed by The Man Who Sold The World in the style of Nirvana...
The_Enemy wrote:
Which must've been an unplugged electric guitar, sort of making it acoustic.
Look, how can they sell something called "Unplugged" if they're using an electric guitar? If they are, then I suggest everyone ask for their money back.
Or better yet.... let's get a class action suit against MTV (no point suing Kurt).
It's all acoustic guitars on this - even the bass (and cello). Granted, they are acoustics with pick-ups installed in them, and Cobain's has more gain applied during the riff parts to get that overdriven sound, but there are no solid-body (fully) electric guitars on this recording.
Still. it's not technically "unplugged", though very few of the (over 100) performances on MTV's "Unplugged" were anyhow.
Probably the correct spelling of Kurt's last name for starters.
Except for the electric guitar.
Which must've been an unplugged electric guitar, sort of making it acoustic.
Look, how can they sell something called "Unplugged" if they're using an electric guitar? If they are, then I suggest everyone ask for their money back.
Or better yet.... let's get a class action suit against MTV (no point suing Kurt).
Except for the electric guitar.
sounds old and it drags,
Bowie's original still crackles
Damn right!
"Unplugged" (to MTV back then) generally meant using acoustic instruments, which is how this version was performed. I'm not sure where you get "new and totally different" from. This recording is from an "unplugged" gig they played for MTV - they were not recording the song for a new Nirvana album. They probably just thought it would be cool to play a cover of a relatively obscure Bowie song. Many bands do unexpected covers during live shows that they may never release on an album. They weren't trying to make some earth-shattering statement. It's a faithful and reverent version, though I prefer the original.
sounds old and it drags,
Bowie's original still crackles
Fully agree.
RP is structured in playlists. If you are a regular listener, it is quite common to predict the following tune. It seems that there are between 5 and 10 tracks swapped out daily .
4. Talking Heads.
5. U2.
"Bowie bemoaned the fact that when he performed the number himself he would encounter "kids that come up afterwards and say, 'It's cool you're doing a Nirvana song.' And I think, 'F#$k you, you little tosser!'""
1. Grateful Dead
2. RHCP
3. Nirvana
4. Talking Heads.
Decent cover version this.
1. Grateful Dead
2. RHCP
3. Nirvana
A long long time ago,
And still another one turned it
Into sweet memories.
How do I flag this heartless garbage? You need to grow up, Junior.
ok, im sorry, in retrospect that wasnt funny, but I have no pity for such an action.
He probably didnt feel a thing but imagine the collective pain he inflicted on everyone who loved him.
Its a chickens way out.
Might be. But nothing new added.
MrsTom wrote:
How do I flag this heartless garbage? You need to grow up, Junior.
Not funny.
Thank you for clearing that up.
Ummmm.... How about to introduce a whole new generation of people to the great work of Mr. Bowie.
That was a David Bowie song.
/nods off...
yeah, horrid. no creative reworking, just change great vocals to the whine.
That was a David Bowie song.
/nods off...
Hard to believe that show was recorded twenty years ago this week!
Check out this article about the performance on Yahoo:
https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/remembering-nirvana-unplugged-cobain-battles-nearly-pulled-plug-014731014.html
The amp was Cobain's idea, and the network was against it. Turned out better than the original IMHO...
Covering the song is a mark of respect for the original and Cobains version is great.. but I do enjoy the original more.
The unplugged clip is a gem and his genius shines thru stronger with his own material. What a sad loss
.......... most definitely was
Sorry. I never got it. The concept was that musicians were forced to re-imagine their songs with new acoustic arrangements. But so many just played acoustic guitar instead of the electric guitar and amplified their acoustic guitars to be loud enough to go with the drum kit (but hey -- the drummer used brushes).*
But this song is the epitome of the laziness of the people on the show. They couldn't even leave an amplified acoustic guitar alone. They had to slap a switch on the acoustic guitar for the lead fuzz tone. Incredibly lame. Incredibly lazy. Incredibly unimaginative.
Unplugged?!
Yeah, and I'm the pope.
Look, you wanna cover Bowie? Go ahead. But don't pretend like it's some genius unplugged arrangement. It's just a cover, and in my opinion, one that contributes nothing to the original.
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* Yes, there were some who seemed to accept the challenge or rearranging their music, but it seems that too many of them took the lazy way out.
Hard to believe that show was recorded twenty years ago this week!
Check out this article about the performance on Yahoo:
https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/remembering-nirvana-unplugged-cobain-battles-nearly-pulled-plug-014731014.html
The amp was Cobain's idea, and the network was against it. Turned out better than the original IMHO...
Sorry. I never got it. The concept was that musicians were forced to re-imagine their songs with new acoustic arrangements. But so many just played acoustic guitar instead of the electric guitar and amplified their acoustic guitars to be loud enough to go with the drum kit (but hey -- the drummer used brushes).*
But this song is the epitome of the laziness of the people on the show. They couldn't even leave an amplified acoustic guitar alone. They had to slap a switch on the acoustic guitar for the lead fuzz tone. Incredibly lame. Incredibly lazy. Incredibly unimaginative.
Unplugged?!
Yeah, and I'm the pope.
Look, you wanna cover Bowie? Go ahead. But don't pretend like it's some genius unplugged arrangement. It's just a cover, and in my opinion, one that contributes nothing to the original.
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* Yes, there were some who seemed to accept the challenge or rearranging their music, but it seems that too many of them took the lazy way out.
What's the point of giving something a THREE ?
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/02/magazine/evermans-war.html
He had three drill sergeants, two of whom were sadists. Thank God it was the easygoing one who saw it. He was reading a magazine, when he slowly looked up and stared at Everman. Then the sergeant walked over, pointing to a page in the magazine. “Is this you?” It was a photo of the biggest band in the world, Nirvana. Kurt Cobain had just killed himself, and this was a story about his suicide. Next to Cobain was the band’s onetime second guitarist. A guy with long, strawberry blond curls. “Is this you?”
Everman exhaled. “Yes, Drill Sergeant.”
"So what kind of music do you listen to?"
The good kind.
Yeah, it's not an easy question to answer honestly, without coming across as pretentious. I always feel the urge to say "good". Don't even get me started when it comes to reading...
"Well crafted" is my usual response. Seems to satisfy most and makes me feel ok about not apearing too pretentious.
"So what kind of music do you listen to?"
If you can answer that question easily, than you won't be spending any time here.
Yeah, it's not an easy question to answer honestly, without coming across as pretentious. I always feel the urge to say "good". Don't even get me started when it comes to reading...
also that lil feedback. I seem to wait for it..
that's so funny on so many different levels.
Me TOO..