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Hide, everyone knows
We all trade in never-befores
Selling out for the score
Pray, squeal when you're caught
Cry, it's not my fault
Time to trade in never-befores
Selling out for the score
It seems you prophesized, all of this would end
Were you burned away when the sun rose again
Hate, long wearing thin
Negative, all you've been
Time to trade in never-befores
Selling out for the score
It seems you prophesized, all of this would end
Were you burned away when the sun rose again
I'll rip the scab off of this old post and say that I must agree.
There were two bands from the 90's with brand new original sounds that got my immediate attention from the first time I heard them.
AIC is one, Garbage is the other. PJ took some time to get into as did some others. But these two outfits stood out amongst all the others for me. Before these two, the last band that got my immediate attention with a brand new sound was Dire Straits. I actually remember the exact place I was the first time I heard Sultans of Swing.
Love me some Alice, but hello? Soundgarden, anyone? Hello? Chris Cornell had an 18-wheeler of genius to these other bands box trucks.
I'll rip the scab off of this old post and say that I must agree.
There were two bands from the 90's with brand new original sounds that got my immediate attention from the first time I heard them.
AIC is one, Garbage is the other. PJ took some time to get into as did some others. But these two outfits stood out amongst all the others for me. Before these two, the last band that got my immediate attention with a brand new sound was Dire Straits. I actually remember the exact place I was the first time I heard Sultans of Swing.
Alice in Chains before, but they sure left an impression. The lead singer started the show in a full suit which was quite a contrast to the music. By the end of the show he stripped off all his upper clothing. With his bald head, his naked upper body, and the energy he was singing with, he was covered in sweat and anger. It was great music and the crowd seemed composed of people wearing black leather jackets. They knew all the words and sang along. Went to that show with a girl from Ohio named Stephanie who loved Primus even more than me. Good times, and oh, to be young again!
Love this band!!! Staley’s vocal ambiance adds such an incredible atmosphere to the songs and blends well with Cantrell’s guitar work. So many, I think, dismissed this band as just a bunch of hard rock and hard party kids. Soooooo much more here if you take the time to listen.
This is William DuVall. Layne Staley died in 2002.
Which one's Alice?
Ha, ha
Staley and Shannon Hoon of 'Blind Melon'.
Each born in 1967. Hoon dead at 28, Staley at 34.
.
Not good!
Love this band!!! Staley’s vocal ambiance adds such an incredible atmosphere to the songs and blends well with Cantrell’s guitar work. So many, I think, dismissed this band as just a bunch of hard rock and hard party kids. Soooooo much more here if you take the time to listen.
Love them enough to know Lane Staley didn't sing this song, because he was dead?
Some of their stuff is really good. Thanks RP for the variety...
Thank you Bill and Rebecca... only ever have been listening this on RP.
Layne Staley (on the left).
And Shannon Hoon of 'Blind Melon'.
Each born in 1967.
Staley died at 34, Hoon at 28.
.
I am drinking from a cup, I do better when I look at sixes and sevens.
She's always been short and sweet to me.
But this time she says If you drop my lingering heart
Soon you.ll be looking for a place to run.
This is when cellphones are handy
And the rest will be laying scattered.
Have a listen before judging man. This album rocks. But is a bit too heavy fo RP That's all.
Isn't most of life about pain, social withdrawal and drug addiction? Perhaps it's just me. I love Alice in Chains generally but not massively keen on this particular track but Rooster has always been a favourite.
I'd say that pain, social withdrawal and drug addiction are some reactions to the hard knocks that life imparts to us all but I think there's far more to our existence than non-proactive responses to adversity.
Never did understand the appeal of hard drugs. I think of the heavy users I've known and how damaged they are--no thanks.
That's very restrained and polite of you, cosmiclint. I appreciate that in light of my rant.
Actually, after reading your post about "Rooster", I watched the video and read some commentary about the song. Now that it makes some sense to me, I actually enjoy it...to an extent.
I never understood the thrill of Alice in Chains. Maybe if I watched a few more videos or read through some lyrics. It just seemed to me that a lot of their stuff was about pain, social withdrawal and drug addiction. I guy I knew from the Baltimore area said that the drug angle made them big around the city, which has a serious heroin problem.
Isn't most of life about pain, social withdrawal and drug addiction? Perhaps it's just me. I love Alice in Chains generally but not massively keen on this particular track but Rooster has always been a favourite.
Jerry Cantrell wrote that song about his father, who served in Vietman. His nickname was Rooster, hence the title. Jerry has said of the song:It was the start of the healing process between my Dad and I from all that damage that Vietnam caused. This was all my perception of his experiences out there.I don't agree with your opinion that the song is "godawful." I think it is very effective in dealing with the subject matter, but you're entitled to your opinion.
That's very restrained and polite of you, cosmiclint. I appreciate that in light of my rant.
Actually, after reading your post about "Rooster", I watched the video and read some commentary about the song. Now that it makes some sense to me, I actually enjoy it...to an extent.
I never understood the thrill of Alice in Chains. Maybe if I watched a few more videos or read through some lyrics. It just seemed to me that a lot of their stuff was about pain, social withdrawal and drug addiction. A guy I knew from the Baltimore area said that the drug angle made them big around the city, which has a serious heroin problem.
I think AIC crosses too far into the "Metal" category for RP. I have listened to many stations similar to RP and AIC is never included in the playlist. One reason for this is that this type of music does not fit well into the playlist. They have no problem with Pearl Jam of course, which is fairly light most of the time. Forget about Soundgarden. Nirvana is too difficult to ignore - they reluctantly play Nirvana. I also think that AIC or Soundgarden are LOUD bands that don't really sound as great over the Internet or on headphones as they could in, say, the car. I agree with this sentiment somewhat in that "Heavy Metal" is pretty much conservative, fascist crap music nearly always every bit as bad as "Rap" (nothing on earth is really as bad as "Rap" though). But AIC has some really good stuff. I am glad Bill added I Stay Away to the playlist - I just wish he would play it sometimes.
I disagree. If they can bring something new to the table, why not continue on. Yeah, the singer sounds a lot like the original singer, but that's the kind of music they play. Of course they are going to find a singer that they like and who can sing some of the old songs.
BTW, Led Zeppelin and The Who both reunited at different times with others sitting in for the deceased members. The Stones had a great run in the seventies after Brian Jones died. Life goes on.
I'm sure there was a factor involved to "matching" vocals to Layne when the auditions occurred. A lot more goes into jiving with a band than just meeting the needs of everyone else. What impresses me about current members, not only is how well they have preserved the AIC signature, but the fact that they've found something that works. This situation ain't new. It's a firm mixture of personalities and musical destiny... and when it works, it's beautiful. William DuVall is excellent.
I disagree. If they can bring something new to the table, why not continue on. Yeah, the singer sounds a lot like the original singer, but that's the kind of music they play. Of course they are going to find a singer that they like and who can sing some of the old songs.
They also sound a lot alike because he's still harmonizing with Jerry Cantrell as Layne did.
AIC has been very respectful to Layne's memory. When Jerry first brought William DuVall in to join them, they communicated with their fans and listened to their feedback. The fans were very supportive so then they decided to go on tour (which was awesome! I saw two of their shows) and only after that and getting the fans' acceptance, did they go into the studio and make a new album. I don't think that would have happened if the fans felt they were doing the wrong thing.
I disagree. If they can bring something new to the table, why not continue on. Yeah, the singer sounds a lot like the original singer, but that's the kind of music they play. Of course they are going to find a singer that they like and who can sing some of the old songs.
BTW, Led Zeppelin and The Who both reunited at different times with others sitting in for the deceased members. The Stones had a great run in the seventies after Brian Jones died. Life goes on.
Jerry Cantrell - so awesome.
Putting all those thoughts aside, I think I can say I liked this one. It's a nice, mellow tune. However, if I wanted to listen to an AIC song, I'd still prefer the signature AIC songs; dark, heavy and somewhat disturbing.
Yes, it is that simple.
I do get that...but with most songs, I don't hear the voice as much as the music. Part of the reason the lyrics often mean less to me than the sound behind them. To each his own...but you are definitely in a rough position, since PJ seems to have lasting powers..a-la U2. :)
And Pearl Jam - the only thing I halfway liked from them was "Jeremy." Now, I listen and smile to a lot more of their music, and I love Eddie Vedder's "Ukelele Songs." So - in defense of sirdroseph, I must say that we're not all the same, and our likes and dislikes may not make sense to anyone but we ourselves. So be it.
And then there's Stingray...........
Hear! Hear! Well said...all of it!
Maybe PJ will put out a instrumental album and he and lemmoth will both be indulged!
And by the way Eddie loved Layne - see his tribute song, Mike was in a band with him and they loved PJ.
srjoseph or whatever is just an extremist against any song or any band that ever got any serious mainstream hype - just check out his ratings and that will be confirmed.
In fact as Layla comes on I already know I can easily find a hateful comment from this guy by clicking on the song - and voila - there it is.
He is so predictable.
Hey lemmoth, Eddie Vedder sucks! I won't bother you again with replies, just messin with you. If you disliked some of my bands and said they sucked I would think to myself, huh guess he don't like them and then not give it a second thought. Music is subjective, I am allowed to love and hate whomever I please as you are. Just relax and enjoy what you like, mute what you do not. Use the song comments to express exactly how you feel about each song that you feel like commenting on, don't comment on the rest. Your fascination with what I like or dislike is not good for you or appealing to the rest that read your personal attacks on my comments. It's all good broham, relax.
I don't understand how you can despise PJ so much but yet love AIC. Must be Vedder's voice? I just love the whole 90's grunge sound...from them all. Best good rock to be produced since the 60's and 70's!
Yes, it is that simple.
In your opinion maybe, but there were others in mine that were equally as good. Melvins, Screaming Trees, Mudhoney, Mother Love Bone, Soundgarden and oh this band called Nirvana. Don't get me wrong AIC belongs up there but to say they were the most talented and most important just isn't true in my book.
Absolutely, it depends on who you like. What I thought was especially unique about AIC was there incorporations of Bluegrass "high-low" melodies. Good Stuff!
And Pearl Jam - the only thing I halfway liked from them was "Jeremy." Now, I listen and smile to a lot more of their music, and I love Eddie Vedder's "Ukelele Songs." So - in defense of sirdroseph, I must say that we're not all the same, and our likes and dislikes may not make sense to anyone but we ourselves. So be it.
And then there's Stingray...........
In your opinion maybe, but there were others in mine that were equally as good. Melvins, Screaming Trees, Mudhoney, Mother Love Bone, Soundgarden and oh this band called Nirvana. Don't get me wrong AIC belongs up there but to say they were the most talented and most important just isn't true in my book.
I don't understand how you can despise PJ so much but yet love AIC. Must be Vedder's voice? I just love the whole 90's grunge sound...from them all. Best good rock to be produced since the 60's and 70's!
And by the way Eddie loved Layne - see his tribute song, Mike was in a band with him and they loved PJ.
srjoseph or whatever is just an extremist against any song or any band that ever got any serious mainstream hype - just check out his ratings and that will be confirmed.
In fact as Layla comes on I already know I can easily find a hateful comment from this guy by clicking on the song - and voila - there it is.
He is so predictable.
bullshit
What night? Who's night?
Your night is not my night, Baby!
Since RP is in CA, I am sure she meant PCT..which would make sense, unlike a lot of your song comments.
I don't understand how you can despise PJ so much but yet love AIC. Must be Vedder's voice? I just love the whole 90's grunge sound...from them all. Best good rock to be produced since the 60's and 70's!
I used to play this song to death — still love it — don't know why! I guess I picture long, lonely highway trips home in the middle of the night where you're dragging along at 55 mph because you don't want to get yet another ticket.
Can this song even hold a candle to "I Stay Away" (which is not played here)? It's questions like these that can drive someone insane.
Hold on to your sanity:
I Stay Away - truly a 10. And Bill plays it.
Artist: | Alice In Chains < more > |
Song: | I Stay Away |
Album: | Jar of Flies < album info > |
Released: | 1994 |
Last Played: | Mar 10, 2011 - 05:58 |
Yes, I saw it too. I think it was the first time that RP reacted to something I wrote, or maybe it was coincidence, it was played for the first time on RP after I wrote that. I listen to this station at least 8 hours a day for 3+ years and I have yet to hear it.
Can this song even hold a candle to "I Stay Away" (which is not played here)? It's questions like these that can drive someone insane.
Hold on to your sanity:
I Stay Away - truly a 10. And Bill plays it.
Artist: | Alice In Chains < more > |
Song: | I Stay Away |
Album: | Jar of Flies < album info > |
Released: | 1994 |
Last Played: | Mar 10, 2011 - 05:58 |
Can this song even hold a candle to "I Stay Away" (which is not played here)? It's questions like these that can drive someone insane.
I'd like to hear that. Maybe not hold a candle to it, but hey at least it's AIC on RP.
WORD!
Can this song even hold a candle to "I Stay Away" (which is not played here)? It's questions like these that can drive someone insane.
I like this song a lot so I'm not sure that I agree with the comment. I "would" however like to hear some more from AIC here. They have a great catalog and imo are one of the more under-appreciated bands of the last 20 years.
Can this song even hold a candle to "I Stay Away" (which is not played here)? It's questions like these that can drive someone insane.
While they're more known overall for their dark and heavy sound ("Would?", "Rooster", "Man in the Box"), some of the acoustic stuff they put out, especially the music on "Sap" and "Jar of Flies", is excellent. For those who haven't heard those releases, I highly recommend them.
What night? Who's night?
Your night is not my night, Baby!
Jerry Cantrell wrote that song about his father, who served in Vietman. His nickname was Rooster, hence the title. Jerry has said of the song:
It was the start of the healing process between my Dad and I from all that damage that Vietnam caused. This was all my perception of his experiences out there.
I don't agree with your opinion that the song is "godawful." I think it is very effective in dealing with the subject matter, but you're entitled to your opinion.
Their new singer is amazing and I liked the way they approached it. They did some recording with him but went on tour first to get their fans' response. It was so overwhelmingly positive that they decided to make an album. It was like they asked for their fans' approval to introduce a new lead singer. I saw them on that tour and on their acoustic tour and was blown away.
roulleau wrote:
Funny, I paid attention to them in the 90s and now I'm wondering why.
I've never paid attention to them and haven't wondered about it ever. They wouldn't be so bad if they didn't sing in monotone harmony on every. song. I've. heard.
Will never forgive AIC for "Rooster." What a godawful song.
Funny, I paid attention to them in the 90s and now I'm wondering why.
"Most Excellent" to me. :-)
This is good. This is really good.
I never thought they'd find someone who can harmonize with Jerry the way Layne did, but William does a great job. This entire album is fantastic. It won't disappoint long time AIC fans, and should win over some new ones. If you prefer their more mellow stuff, listen to "Jar of Flies" or the EP "Sap."
You know, that's exactly what I was thinking.
Whaaa?? Still I agree, this song is great!! 8.
This is good. This is really good.
Without Layne Staley, I think that's pretty much what they are. Still, I do like it.
Edit: Not to take away Jerry Cantrell's side of things in any way. His contribution is significant. I just think that Layne really was critical to their success. Oh well, I really need to listen more before I shoot my keyboard off any more.
These cats are good.
i thought it was nirvana
the downer chords start up and leave me relieved
whatever that means
These guys were so much better than Nirvana, IMHO - the best Seattle Grunge band out of the big ones: AIC, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Screaming Trees, and later Pearl Jam. This album does a decent job recapturing Lane Staley's magic, but I do wish they'd let sleeping dogs lie and move on to another project, ala Nirvana's Dave Grohl w/Foo Fighters.
NO! NO! NO!
NEVER!
DRUGGED - BUT GOOD!
i thought it was nirvana
the downer chords start up and leave me relieved
whatever that means
Excellent point. IMHO, Jerry Cantrell is Alice in Chains. Think of the best works from AiC, and Jerry is the fountainhead of it all. Jar of Flies, self-titled, any other great AiC song, and Jerry was it. Got to see Jerry and crew in concert, and it was all AiC without any Layne drama.
Sounds like something a late 60's San Fran band would have done....
Psych!
They spent a long time trying to find a similar-sounding vocalist to the late Layne Staley. The new guy's name is William DuVall (from Comes with the Fall). Sounds good, no?
Yeahhhhhhhh
Nothing surprises me anymore, that I hear on RP