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hippiechick
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Apr 26, 2012 - 10:57am |
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Monkeysdad wrote:Okay, I went back a reread the article, how'd you go from the rich stealing OR illegals getting a windfall from tax credits/stealing to how I'm going to vote? Because Romney is one of the biggest tax offenders around.
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Monkeysdad
Location: Simi Valley, CA Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 10:52am |
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hippiechick wrote: Does that mean you will not vote for Romney?
Okay, I went back a reread the article, how'd you go from the rich stealing OR illegals getting a windfall from tax credits/stealing to how I'm going to vote?
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islander
Location: West coast somewhere Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 10:45am |
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sirdroseph wrote:Gary Johnson awaits your vote Dave! I wish Gary Johnson could just go for the cool vote: Gary Johnson is cooler than you. He lost toes to frostbite on Mount Everest (he made the summit). He's also stood atop McKinley and Kilimanjaro. He competes in mountain bike races. He broke his knee and back in a parachute mishap. Oh, and during his two terms as governer of New Mexico he fixed the budget problems, dealt with immigration, increased jobs and remodeled the governor's mansion.
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sirdroseph
Location: Not here, I tell you wat Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 10:01am |
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DaveInVA wrote: I don't want to vote for any of them, its like being asked "Do you want to ge shot with a shotgun or a 45?"
Gary Johnson awaits your vote Dave!
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 10:00am |
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DaveInVA wrote: I don't want to vote for any of them, its like being asked "Do you want to ge shot with a shotgun or a 45?"
I was actually asking MD but thanks for playing
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DaveInSaoMiguel
Location: No longer in a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:59am |
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hippiechick wrote: Does that mean you will not vote for Romney?
I don't want to vote for any of them, its like being asked "Do you want to ge shot with a shotgun or a 45?"
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:47am |
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Monkeysdad wrote: I get all up when anybody does it.
Does that mean you will not vote for Romney?
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Monkeysdad
Location: Simi Valley, CA Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:45am |
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hippiechick wrote: Why is it that rich people can steal, but we get all up when poor people do it?
I get all up when anybody does it.
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:31am |
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cc_rider wrote:I think it's similar to the EIC or something. You have more deductions than you have income, so they give you money. I don't think it's a refund.
Again, the system is broken. No matter how you feel about the situation, the system simply does not work for the good of the people. Well, not for the vast majority of wage-earners, anyway.
Why is it that rich people can steal, but we get all up when poor people do it?
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cc_rider
Location: Bastrop Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:28am |
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hippiechick wrote: How do you get a refund if you don't pay in? The refurn is for overpaying, right?
I think it's similar to the EIC or something. You have more deductions than you have income, so they give you money. I don't think it's a refund. Again, the system is broken. No matter how you feel about the situation, the system simply does not work for the good of the people. Well, not for the vast majority of wage-earners, anyway.
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DaveInSaoMiguel
Location: No longer in a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:27am |
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hippiechick wrote: How do you get a refund if you don't pay in? The refurn is for overpaying, right?
From the article: " Refundable credits can result in refunds even if no income tax is withheld or paid," the report noted. "
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:24am |
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DaveInVA wrote: It does say that many that didn't pay any income taxes still claimed the refund. And many don't file at all..And its beyond broken.
How do you get a refund if you don't pay in? The refurn is for overpaying, right?
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DaveInSaoMiguel
Location: No longer in a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:22am |
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cc_rider wrote:Interesting.
1) So illegal workers actually DO pay taxes on their income. Plus sales tax on their purchases, et al. Kinda shoots a hole in THAT talking point.
2) The law is vague and apparently unenforced. Whose fault is that? Not really the ditch-digger's problem, he's trying to work the system just like everybody else.
3) The problem should be fixed, absolutely.
4) $4.2B into the estimated 12 million illegal workers comes out to about $350/person. I've seen the jobs those folks do, I find it pretty difficult to begrudge them that.
We have two big problems contributing here: 1) Our tax system is hopelessly complex.
2) Our immigration policy, even our very borders, are a patchwork, and loosely enforced if at all.
It does say that many that didn't pay any income taxes still claimed the refund. And many don't file at all to pay taxes..And its beyond broken.
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cc_rider
Location: Bastrop Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 7:56am |
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DaveInVA wrote: Interesting. 1) So illegal workers actually DO pay taxes on their income. Plus sales tax on their purchases, et al. Kinda shoots a hole in THAT talking point. 2) The law is vague and apparently unenforced. Whose fault is that? Not really the ditch-digger's problem, he's trying to work the system just like everybody else. 3) The problem should be fixed, absolutely. 4) $4.2B into the estimated 12 million illegal workers comes out to about $350/person. I've seen the jobs those folks do, I find it pretty difficult to begrudge them that. We have two big problems contributing here: 1) Our tax system is hopelessly complex. 2) Our immigration policy, even our very borders, are a patchwork, and loosely enforced if at all.
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DaveInSaoMiguel
Location: No longer in a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA Gender:
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Apr 26, 2012 - 7:46am |
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DaveInSaoMiguel
Location: No longer in a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA Gender:
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Apr 25, 2012 - 7:54pm |
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kurtster wrote: That's what you get for getting a pork chop at an Italian restuarant. Chinese restuarants have always been the best place for a good pork chop.
Except those small ones they serve probably used to bark more than oink..
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oldviolin
Location: esse quam videri Gender:
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Apr 25, 2012 - 7:51pm |
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kurtster wrote: That's what you get for getting a pork chop at an Italian restuarant. Chinese restuarants have always been the best place for a good pork chop.
Check that! My Mama had 'em beat by worlds... rabbithole
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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:
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Apr 25, 2012 - 7:49pm |
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oldviolin wrote:
I got a bad pork chop at Macaroni Grill once. I puked my shoe heels up for three days straight. I will NEVER eat there again.
That's what you get for getting a pork chop at an Italian restuarant. Chinese restuarants have always been the best place for a good pork chop.
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oldviolin
Location: esse quam videri Gender:
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Apr 25, 2012 - 7:43pm |
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oldslabsides wrote:What I have to say on the immigration issue...
If the world is gonna play the nation state game, then borders have to mean something.
I got a bad pork chop at Macaroni Grill once. I puked my shoe heels up for three days straight. I will NEVER eat there again.oh, wait! my bad...
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Apr 25, 2012 - 6:39pm |
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What I have to say on the immigration issue...
If the world is gonna play the nation state game, then borders have to mean something.
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