1) The Mayor doesn't want ICE there and contends that
a) the real protestors are nonviolent and have been so
b) there are hoodlums, as always, and the LA police have them in their sights and
c) ICE is in their way
2) The Governor did not ask for help and doesn't want ICE there.
3) WTF? Agree with me that ICE is in the wrong here, just like at Kent State.
I'm not sure if Newsome had ever said he doesn't want ICE officers to be there, or that he wants them to leave; he has stated his opposition to their methods however. The protests began as a response to reports of ICE raids in workplaces on Friday.
He clearly doesn't want the California National Guard to be there - especially since he did not request them.
It seems as if The Nat'l Guard and ICE are somehow being conflated here.
Shooting at protestors is wrong, unless it is in self defense.
I do not see how ICE is inciting violence by doing its job.
The protestors are interfering with lawful enforcement actions performed by ICE.
The protestors are the violent ones and ICE is reacting to the threats posed by the protestors is how I see it.
But that's backwards and not reality.
1) The Mayor doesn't want ICE there and contends that a) the real protestors are nonviolent and have been so b) there are hoodlums, as always, and the LA police have them in their sights and c) ICE is in their way
2) The Governor did not ask for help and doesn't want ICE there.
3) WTF? Agree with me that ICE is in the wrong here, just like at Kent State.
Sorry ICE is not wrong here, see my edit below and reposted here.
. In 1957, President Dwight D. Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas National Guard and deployed U.S. Army paratroopers to Little Rock, Arkansas, to enforce federal court orders for school desegregation at Central High School. This action, prompted by Governor Orval Faubus's attempt to prevent the integration of nine African American students (the Little Rock Nine), demonstrated the federal government's commitment to upholding Supreme Court rulings and ensuring equal access to education.
Shooting at protestors is wrong, unless it is in self defense.
I do not see how ICE is inciting violence by doing its job.
The protestors are interfering with lawful enforcement actions performed by ICE.
The protestors are the violent ones and ICE is reacting to the threats posed by the protestors is how I see it.
But that's backwards and not reality. Iâm editing to fix my misstatement.
1) The Mayor doesn't want the guard there and contends that
a) the real protestors are nonviolent and have been so
b) there are hoodlums, as always, and the LA police have them in their sights and
c) the guard is in their way
2) The Governor did not ask for help and doesn't want the CA National guard there.
3) WTF? Agree with me that theyâre in the wrong here, just like at Kent State.
Been there, done that already. I'm thinking Kent State.
But...that was wrong... So, then, the ICE out there inciting violence and shooting at protestors is...wrong, too. Right?
Shooting at protestors is wrong, unless it is in self defense.
I do not see how ICE is inciting violence by doing its job.
The protestors are interfering with lawful enforcement actions performed by ICE.
The protestors are the violent ones and ICE is reacting to the threats posed by the protestors is how I see it.
Edit: There is precedent for federalizing the Nat'l Guard when they were used to enforce integration of schools in Arkansas.
In 1957, President Dwight D. Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas National Guard and deployed U.S. Army paratroopers to Little Rock, Arkansas, to enforce federal court orders for school desegregation at Central High School. This action, prompted by Governor Orval Faubus's attempt to prevent the integration of nine African American students (the Little Rock Nine), demonstrated the federal government's commitment to upholding Supreme Court rulings and ensuring equal access to education.
US citizens are increasingly too stupid for their own good right now. There's an article in the NY Times today about Trump's continued popularity in Appalachian Kentucky, in light of the reality that they are going to get hammered by his inflation and Medicaid cuts. They don't see it, and those that do excuse it as some sort of necessary move to fix what's broken in the country? It's magical thinking on a grand scale.
"Gotta swallow the bitter medicine to get better, son."
