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ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 3, 2026 - 9:41am

 kurtster wrote:


Depends on the version.  Fake stereo album versions are from the US editions of Magical Mystery Tour.

The only true stereo album version I know of are German pressings.  

https://www.discogs.com/master...
 
And the lord only knows about the singles versions.


Point being: a lot of songs are listed as being from these odd releases when they're not. If they are, that's cool, but the information is not reliable.
kurtster

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Posted: Mar 3, 2026 - 9:29am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:




I figured I would find some Beatles songs that are sourced from the Butcher Baby album. I didn't but Penny Lane is from what now? Discogs says Capitol 1979 "Unofficial Release" 


Depends on the version.  Fake stereo album versions are from the US editions of Magical Mystery Tour.

The only true stereo album version I know of are German pressings.  

https://www.discogs.com/master...
 
And the lord only knows about the singles versions.
Proclivities

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Posted: Mar 3, 2026 - 9:22am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


It's just weird how—somehow—the source disc cited is often correct despite being the most obscure K-Tel cutout bootleg 10-inch remaster and not just the actual studio album it's from.

I figured I would find some Beatles songs that are sourced from the Butcher Baby album. I didn't but Penny Lane is from what now? Discogs says Capitol 1979 "Unofficial Release" 

It's weird that it links to an obscure bootleg like that.  It's probably the alternative mix of the tune that has an extra trumpet flourish at the very end - I used to have it on some bootleg years ago.
dischuckin

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Posted: Mar 3, 2026 - 9:11am

still get the occasional (like once or thrice a day) random music stoppage... it's after a song that has the station shoutout cut in. just a slight annoyance that i have to go to 'what's playing' & click play to get it going again. win11,chrome
guess it's good to get some silence now and then
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 3, 2026 - 8:43am

 Proclivities wrote:

Yeah, that's from a 1995 live album called "Isle of View".


It's just weird how—somehow—the source disc cited is often correct despite being the most obscure K-Tel cutout bootleg 10-inch remaster and not just the actual studio album it's from.

I figured I would find some Beatles songs that are sourced from the Butcher Baby album. I didn't but Penny Lane is from what now? Discogs says Capitol 1979 "Unofficial Release" 
Proclivities

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Posted: Mar 3, 2026 - 8:06am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
...Pretenders - Live at the Palladium 1980 does not/cannot have this version of Back on the Chain Gang on it because the song was written in 1982-ish after James died.

Yeah, that's from a 1995 live album called "Isle of View".
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 3, 2026 - 7:48am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

I can't imagine how hard it's going to be to unfuck the database* but TIL that there's a bootleg Elvis Costello album out there from 1978. This song isn't on it.

*These sorts of things are extremely common, especially when it comes to album art. e.g.: Love & Rockets song played earlier is showing a Tones on Tail ep. So it's never totally arbitrary.



I do appreciate how whatever happened to the database is pulling some pretty frickin' rare (to me) albums out of the aether to track down. But
Pretenders - Live at the Palladium 1980 does not/cannot have this version of Back on the Chain Gang on it because the song was written in 1982-ish after James died.

discogs for the bootleg

So it's cool in a way despite being completely inaccurate for many of the songs played on RP.
RadioParadisio

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Location: New York


Posted: Mar 2, 2026 - 7:51pm

Feature request —- I miss having access to song comments directly in the app. Can that be brought back as a “option” to toggle on or off? 
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Posted: Mar 2, 2026 - 7:50pm

It’s nice that there are still humans doing human things for human reasons and willing to talk to us openly about it.

You think that seems quaint? Give it ten more years. If that. 
haresfur

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Location: The Golden Triangle
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 2, 2026 - 4:54pm

 William wrote:

Someone suggested a postmortem report on the last set of incidents. That's a great idea. I'll be doing a blog post soon. Maybe I can weave all of the details into some grand philosophical treatise. Love me a grand philosophical treatise.

But, in the meantime, I've given this a lot of thought and these things seem true:

1. Doing things in an orderly, methodical fashion is a lot easier when you're dealing with proven, documented systems & tools rather than inventing everything as you go.

2. Some aspects of my personal psychology really get in our way.

Here's an example: the normal workflow when developing or updating software is to configure and test everything in a 'sandbox' or development environment, and to only deploy to production (public-facing) servers when you're sure everything is working correctly. 

That requires separate servers just for testing and development. In the early days of RP luxuries like that were out of the question. I felt lucky to have even one dedicated database server, and buying or leasing another one would take money I'd rather spend it on expanding our stream relay network. So much sexier, y'know. 

So I developed what they call a "cowboy coding" approach: trying out new features and fixing bugs on the same servers — and database data — that you depend on to deliver our streams, apps, & website. Frantically typing raw SQL commands and writing nasty BASH scripts as everything melts down because of a semicolon. A FREAKIN' SEMICOLON! The stress of moments like that — so many moments like that — has probably taken a year or ten off my lifespan. Especially when it comes to semicolons. The least useful bit of punctuation in the mongrel tongue being force-fed to the entire world, but the whole web would grind to a halt without 'em.

The hopefully-final straw is that, for a variety of reasons, this time around I was more aware than ever of how difficult my working style makes things for others. Cowboy coders are generally a solo act, and RP is much more of a rock band at this point. When a band is in the groove, getting people off their asses and onto the floor, the last thing they need is for the keyboard player to announce between songs that he'd just converted to the Church of A432, and that they needed to stop, ignore their audience, and retune all of their instruments to match. 

The audience, all jacked and sweaty just moments ago, is left standing around, bored and disappointed — and the keyboard player's assurances that the disruption is all in service of a glorious greater good don't really help. 

So, apologies to all of you — and my bandmates — for the disruptions. We'll be setting up that development server.  And I'll be using it.  

3. Something else that I — and several others involved — bring to the table is a kind of irrational optimism that leads us to assume that whatever we're doing will happen smoothly & quickly, without any problems. That leads one to ignore the need to deeply research potential problems in advance, and to treat a superficial understanding of something as good enough.

CarPlay integration in the new iOS app is a good case in point. There were three of us making the key decisions about the app, and none of us had ever actually used CarPlay. We assumed that we knew enough to accurately assess things and make the right choice. Obviously, we were wrong. If we'd taken the time to do our homework we would have known that before we'd disrupted our relationship with thousands of loyal listeners. Like you.

I'm sorry.  


I've seen bigger problems along this line created by much bigger, well funded companies. I'm looking at you Sonos.

We're cool, you're cool, the music is cool. Thank you for everything
czar

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Location: Denver, Colorado, USA


Posted: Mar 2, 2026 - 4:54pm

Thank you William and Alanna for those heartfelt updates! If I've been critical, it's because I love RP and want it to continue to be the amazing resource it has been since the early days..

I'm sure many of us have different use cases for RP (which is reflected in the many choices you give us to tune in). Personally, I don't typically have the luxury of listening while at work, and I'm usually focused on other things while at home, but I love to listen in the car, which sometimes accounts for several hours of my day. So any features that help me to pre-download a cache (or three) and easily/safely play it back in the care are important to me. Rating songs (again, easily and safely while driving) elevates the whole listening experience in numerous ways as well.

Thanks again for your passion for what you do, and I'm looking forward to an amazing iOS app!
syahres

Location: Pittsburgh PA


Posted: Mar 2, 2026 - 2:40pm

Thanks for the update, William. I certainly appreciate everything you and "the Band" do to bring us the best streaming music service on the planet. Glad to hear that everything is back up and running smoothly.

One bit of advice:  IF JARED OR ALANNA ASK YOU IF THEY CAN "BORROW" THE KEYS, DON'T TRUST THEM! ☺️
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 2, 2026 - 10:08am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

This is an old complaint that I think William actually chuckled about way back when so I thought it got fixed but

The "Submit" and "Preview" buttons here in the forum are reversed left-to-right in the song comments
to "Cancel" and "Post Comment"

This is borderline evil and extraordinarily frustrating.



*bump* I don't think this is more than a 10-second fix, right?

I write a little story in the song comments, <tab><return> GONE. Jesus that's annoying.
Proclivities

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Posted: Mar 2, 2026 - 7:11am

 GeneP59 wrote:

what about a sandbox before going live?


William addressed that in his response.
GeneP59

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Posted: Mar 2, 2026 - 6:52am

what about a sandbox before going live?
IH574

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Posted: Mar 2, 2026 - 6:41am

Thank you.  Everything is better with contrast.
rgio

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Posted: Mar 2, 2026 - 4:17am

 William wrote:

...

I'm sorry.  


Random thoughts when reading:

- Development servers are also a pain in the ass.  We have dev, sandbox, and production... and I'm not sure I trust any of them to be aligned.
- Maybe a bit of separation anxiety is good.  Absence and growing fonder stuff....

As Twain said: "There isn’t time, so brief is life, for bickerings, apologies, heartburnings, callings to account. There is only time for loving, and but an instant, so to speak, for that."



geoff_morphini

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Posted: Mar 1, 2026 - 7:25pm

 William wrote:

Someone suggested a postmortem report on the last set of incidents. That's a great idea. I'll be doing a blog post soon. Maybe I can weave all of the details into some grand philosophical treatise. Love me a grand philosophical treatise.

But, in the meantime, I've given this a lot of thought and these things seem true:

1. Doing things in an orderly, methodical fashion is a lot easier when you're dealing with proven, documented systems & tools rather than inventing everything as you go.

2. Some aspects of my personal psychology really get in our way.

Here's an example: the normal workflow when developing or updating software is to configure and test everything in a 'sandbox' or development environment, and to only deploy to production (public-facing) servers when you're sure everything is working correctly. 

That requires separate servers just for testing and development. In the early days of RP luxuries like that were out of the question. I felt lucky to have even one dedicated database server, and buying or leasing another one would take money I'd rather spend it on expanding our stream relay network. So much sexier, y'know. 

So I developed what they call a "cowboy coding" approach: trying out new features and fixing bugs on the same servers — and database data — that you depend on to deliver our streams, apps, & website. Frantically typing raw SQL commands and writing nasty BASH scripts as everything melts down because of a semicolon. A FREAKIN' SEMICOLON! The stress of moments like that — so many moments like that — has probably taken a year or ten off my lifespan. Especially when it comes to semicolons. The least useful bit of punctuation in the mongrel tongue being force-fed to the entire world, but the whole web would grind to a halt without 'em.

The hopefully-final straw is that, for a variety of reasons, this time around I was more aware than ever of how difficult my working style makes things for others. Cowboy coders are generally a solo act, and RP is much more of a rock band at this point. When a band is in the groove, getting people off their asses and onto the floor, the last thing they need is for the keyboard player to announce between songs that he'd just converted to the Church of A432, and that they needed to stop, ignore their audience, and retune all of their instruments to match. 

The audience, all jacked and sweaty just moments ago, is left standing around, bored and disappointed — and the keyboard player's assurances that the disruption is all in service of a glorious greater good don't really help. 

So, apologies to all of you — and my bandmates — for the disruptions. We'll be setting up that development server.  And I'll be using it.  

3. Something else that I — and several others involved — bring to the table is a kind of irrational optimism that leads us to assume that whatever we're doing will happen smoothly & quickly, without any problems. That leads one to ignore the need to deeply research potential problems in advance, and to treat a superficial understanding of something as good enough.

CarPlay integration in the new iOS app is a good case in point. There were three of us making the key decisions about the app, and none of us had ever actually used CarPlay. We assumed that we knew enough to accurately assess things and make the right choice. Obviously, we were wrong. If we'd taken the time to do our homework we would have known that before we'd disrupted our relationship with thousands of loyal listeners. Like you.

I'm sorry.  


Thank you for this detailed description of Cowboy Coding. I remember when you used to have a live-cam in your office so we could see you in action. You are the best at what you do. Sorry about the growing pains but I'm sure it will all be worth it in the long run. 



Rollingthunder

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Posted: Mar 1, 2026 - 4:43pm

 Rollingthunder wrote:


Thanks for your quick response. I am listen almost exclusively to cached music on my Samsung Galaxy S20+5G running Android 13. RP version 4.11.2.gp. There are no unusual transitions between songs, and normal commercial breaks are fine. I know this happens almost every time William starts to make a comment after a song on the Main Mix. I will pay attention to see if it occurs on the Mello mix also. There are no long gaps in music William starts talking about the song and a new song just starts ten or fifteen seconds later. 




Well, listening to the cached version of the main mix is back to being a delight. William is no longer cut off in the middle of a story. Thanks so much you are all appreciated!
nelamvr6

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Posted: Mar 1, 2026 - 12:25pm

 William wrote:



I'm sorry.  



Thank you so much for what you do! I thank my lucky stars I found your little cowboy project all those years ago, my life has been so much better in so many ways that are completely incalculable.

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