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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 4:36pm |
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C'mon, isn't this more fun than worrying about some bullshit financial crisis and a stinking election ? Breathe deeply friends, it won't matter soon. 700 billion bottles of beer on the wall ....
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Lazy8
Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 4:35pm |
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oldslabsides wrote:Dear god! Moisture condensing in the air behind aircraft! We're doomed!
dude that is pure dihydrogen monoxide. it can like totally kill you.
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samiyam
Location: Moving North
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Sep 27, 2008 - 4:29pm |
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manbirdexperiment wrote:Poison gas. Period. By the US government. Period again.
Alien gases and heavy metals mixed with genetically altered fungal spores which are from another world. We're being terraformed!
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Welly
Location: Lotusland Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 4:28pm |
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oldslabsides wrote:Dear god! Moisture condensing in the air behind aircraft! We're doomed!
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Sep 27, 2008 - 4:23pm |
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Dear god! Moisture condensing in the air behind aircraft! We're doomed!
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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 4:13pm |
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Manbird
Location: ? ? ? Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 3:56pm |
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Poison gas. Period. By the US government. Period again.
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Xeric
Location: Montana Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 3:27pm |
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kurtster wrote:
And again, just how does clear air support a "shadow" ? Lots of moisture in the desert air ? Don't see any evidence of dust either. And wouldn't the shadow be parallel to an object, not at a diverging angle as seen where the beam hits the ground ?
Dude, we are no more gonna agree on this than on evolution. I see a shadow that is directly down-sun from the densest contrail there. I've seen 'em here—and in the desert—IRL. And yeah, there could be plenty of moisture and/or dust in the air to make visible a shadow. Feel free to feel drugged by SOMA-spewing jets and zapped by black beams—but I'm not gonna join you, nor do I think there's any evidence here that's not easily explicable by much-less-dramatic theories.
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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 3:22pm |
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Xeric wrote: Yep. Atmospheric conditions are obviously unsettled—see the random clouds forming and dispersing unrelated to contrails—and your "black beam" is the shadow—seen in dust or moisture in the air—from the fresh dense contrail above.
And again, just how does clear air support a "shadow" ? Lots of moisture in the desert air ? Don't see any evidence of dust either. And wouldn't the shadow be parallel to an object, not at a diverging angle as seen where the beam hits the ground ?
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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 3:15pm |
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Leslie wrote:Kurster, I've never seen trails like that out here in Antioch or in the 40 mile radius which I frequent. I look at the sky a lot, too. It's not like I've got my head down all the time, looking for artifacts Maybe, its the EBMUD water I drank as a kid.
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katzendogs
Location: Pasadena ,Texas Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 3:15pm |
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This stuff has been going on for years. And ...well
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Xeric
Location: Montana Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 3:12pm |
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kurtster wrote:These are the result of normal aviation activity ? Yep. Atmospheric conditions are obviously unsettled—see the random clouds forming and dispersing unrelated to contrails—and your "black beam" is the shadow—seen in dust or moisture in the air—from the fresh dense contrail above.
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hobiejoe
Location: Still in the tunnel, looking for the light. Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 3:12pm |
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kurtster wrote:Here is a series of pictures from Oct. 26, 2006 taken east bound on I - 10 near Beaumont, Ca. (Not by me) Chem trails with "Black Beams" Note the new trail being made in the upper right hand corner of the photos. These are the result of normal aviation activity ? Don't think so The black bits are shadows being cast by the fresh, dense contrails upper right.
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Leslie
Location: Antioch, CA Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 3:09pm |
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Kurster, I've never seen trails like that out here in Antioch or in the 40 mile radius which I frequent. I look at the sky a lot, too. It's not like I've got my head down all the time, looking for artifacts
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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 3:03pm |
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Here is a series of pictures from Oct. 26, 2006 taken east bound on I - 10 near Beaumont, Ca. (Not by me) Chem trails with "Black Beams" Note the new trail being made in the upper right hand corner of the photos. These are the result of normal aviation activity ? Don't think so
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samiyam
Location: Moving North
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Sep 27, 2008 - 3:00pm |
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Xeric wrote: Contrails that last and spread do so because they have literally become clouds: see "cloud seeding." Intermittent contrails are so because the atmospheric conditions that cause/allow them are also intermittent. Black ones are likely fuel dumps—still, alas, fairly common practice as maximum landing weights must not be exceeded.
Different altitudes of the airplanes, different chemical mixtures in the exhausts of different engines, subtly different fuels . . . there's lots of reasons why you'd see different-looking contrails being produced at any given time.
'Cides, wouldn't it be black helicopters spreading the evil seeds of gumment cornspiracy?
Mebbe... I don't know... I just see the "clouds" being more prevalent and lasting much longer... or not...
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Xeric
Location: Montana Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 2:36pm |
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kurtster wrote:
Maybe, but while these so called Chem Trails are being made, I can see real contrails from passing commercial aviation at the same time. The real con trails disappear at a constant rate as the jets pass by, while you see the chem trail exhaust start and stop in a series of dashes, if you will, from the same aircraft, forming certain, distinct patterns, some are X's, some converge in V shaped patterns, some run parallel. Guess if you saw them being made, you might see the difference. I have seen a dozen different jets criss crossing the same area for hours on end with intermitant exhaust emmisions that eventually blanket the sky with an artificial overcast haze.
Take a look at the pictures from my earlier post in the large view from the link and tell me that they are contrails from ice crystals. Looks like smoke to me. Tell me how you can start and stop contrails, either they are continual or they aren't. Normal contrails are not intermitant in that close of proximity. I have also seen pictures of black chem trails, a recent addition to the mix. I'll find a couple pictures of them and put em up.
Contrails that last and spread do so because they have literally become clouds: see "cloud seeding." Intermittent contrails are so because the atmospheric conditions that cause/allow them are also intermittent. Black ones are likely fuel dumps—still, alas, fairly common practice as maximum landing weights must not be exceeded. Different altitudes of the airplanes, different chemical mixtures in the exhausts of different engines, subtly different fuels . . . there's lots of reasons why you'd see different-looking contrails being produced at any given time. 'Cides, wouldn't it be black helicopters spreading the evil seeds of gumment cornspiracy?
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samiyam
Location: Moving North
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Sep 27, 2008 - 2:19pm |
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Lazy8 wrote: samiyam wrote:The Icecaps are melting... Florida is flooding... All those wimmen danzerz from Foat Law-der-dale are gonna need a new place to danz.
That's why we have laps! Duh. Yeah... but mine's not dry. Seriously, I give a fair amount of credence to the "Chemtrail" theories. I've seen how some of the "contrails" seem to last and last and last and they will spread out and intersect with other jet trails and soon the whole sky is a lace-work. It's uncanny. But I'm not going to say that I think it's a conspiracy... yet.
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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 2:11pm |
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hobiejoe wrote: This neatly covers contrail formation, with added reference to climate change as a bonus! I'd imagine that you see so many contrails because you live near or under an air route - we live close to one of the two routes across the English Channel, with an aeronautical beacon about 5 miles from us and so see a lot of two-way traffic, like an aerial highway. Maybe, but while these so called Chem Trails are being made, I can see real contrails from passing commercial aviation at the same time. The real con trails disappear at a constant rate as the jets pass by, while you see the chem trail exhaust start and stop in a series of dashes, if you will, from the same aircraft, forming certain, distinct patterns, some are X's, some converge in V shaped patterns, some run parallel. Guess if you saw them being made, you might see the difference. I have seen a dozen different jets criss crossing the same area for hours on end with intermitant exhaust emmisions that eventually blanket the sky with an artificial overcast haze. Take a look at the pictures from my earlier post in the large view from the link and tell me that they are contrails from ice crystals. Looks like smoke to me. Tell me how you can start and stop contrails, either they are continual or they aren't. Normal contrails are not intermitant in that close of proximity. I have also seen pictures of black chem trails, a recent addition to the mix. I'll find a couple pictures of them and put em up.
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Lazy8
Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:
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Sep 27, 2008 - 2:09pm |
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samiyam wrote:The Icecaps are melting... Florida is flooding... All those wimmen danzerz from Foat Law-der-dale are gonna need a new place to danz.
That's why we have laps! Duh.
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