I shouldn't think so. The Germans (as in general public) seem to genuinely not want nuclear, they have had strong Green politicians for years. I wasn't being ironic, I'm genuinely interested in how they propose to do it. I was, however, being ironic about the electric cars as the very same people who are against nuclear (and coal, and oil, and gas) power are often the very same who want electric cars - they just seen to think electric cars run on magic moonbeams rather than the output of power stations.
Exactly. Like it's all effin magik.
And of course the evil oil and car mfr corporations have been withholding these 'free-energy' cars from us for decades.
The public can be such a stupid bunch some times.
Although I agree with your base sentiment that it's not free/magic, The oil/car manufacturers have spent a lot of money successfully lobbying to hold back competition.
Himin Solar park in China has a museum that holds one of the solar panels that Reagan had removed from the roof of the White house (Carter had them installed). Imagine the progress that we could have made if we spent the last 30 years working on refining and improving that technology instead of giving tax breaks and sweetheart deals to established companies that were already making a healthy profit.
The legislators can be such a stupid bunch some times.
I shouldn't think so. The Germans (as in general public) seem to genuinely not want nuclear, they have had strong Green politicians for years. I wasn't being ironic, I'm genuinely interested in how they propose to do it. I was, however, being ironic about the electric cars as the very same people who are against nuclear (and coal, and oil, and gas) power are often the very same who want electric cars - they just seen to think electric cars run on magic moonbeams rather than the output of power stations.
Exactly. Like it's all effin magik.
And of course the evil oil and car mfr corporations have been withholding these 'free-energy' cars from us for decades.
The public can be such a stupid bunch some times.
In the US, our magic moonbeam technology has mostly been hydrogen-fueled cars promoted as a way to become energy independent and pollution-free. Nary a State of the Union Address passes without sunshiney references to promoting alternate fuels, sometimes hydrogen specifically by name.
It's not as if they're turning them all off tomorrow - they have at least 10 years to figure stuff out. That could be a pretty long time for one of the most technologically advanced and economically potent nations on the planet...or maybe not.
Well I hope it works out better than catalytic converters that the Germans had the EU impose on us, killing off the much cleaner (and platinum-free) true lean-burn engines that would have been a much better bet.
It's going to be interesting to see how they are going to replace the 23% of their generating capacity - plus power all those electric cars that are being touted so hard.
It's not as if they're turning them all off tomorrow - they have at least 10 years to figure stuff out. That could be a pretty long time for one of the most technologically advanced and economically potent nations on the planet...or maybe not.
one factor in the groundswell in favor of renewables here is a feeling of optimism that German engineering will rise to the challenge and find new technologies / refine existing ones to a point where they can compete against fossil fuels / nuclear. One of my mates is R&D director of a specialist engineering company here and he thinks it can be done so it's not just utopian greenies who are on the bandwagon.
This might explain why there is less resistance from big industry here than one would normally expect
I am so happy about this.
Well, they have been known to fail before
But, you're right, good luck to them. It would be great if they succeeded.
In the simplest terms possible: If we haven't figured out a safe way to work with and dispose of waste from nuclear power plants, we aren't ready to use them. Of course we are capable of achieving most anything.
one factor in the groundswell in favor of renewables here is a feeling of optimism that German engineering will rise to the challenge and find new technologies / refine existing ones to a point where they can compete against fossil fuels / nuclear. One of my mates is R&D director of a specialist engineering company here and he thinks it can be done so it's not just utopian greenies who are on the bandwagon.
This might explain why there is less resistance from big industry here than one would normally expect
Gee- The german government bonkers? Whoulda ever thunk it?
beamends wrote:
I shouldn't think so. The Germans (as in general public) seem to genuinely not want nuclear, they have had strong Green politicians for years. I wasn't being ironic, I'm genuinely interested in how they propose to do it. I was, however, being ironic about the electric cars as the very same people who are against nuclear (and coal, and oil, and gas) power are often the very same who want electric cars - they just seen to think electric cars run on magic moonbeams rather than the output of power stations.
one factor in the groundswell in favor of renewables here is a feeling of optimism that German engineering will rise to the challenge and find new technologies / refine existing ones to a point where they can compete against fossil fuels / nuclear. One of my mates is R&D director of a specialist engineering company here and he thinks it can be done so it's not just utopian greenies who are on the bandwagon.
This might explain why there is less resistance from big industry here than one would normally expect.
Exactly. Silly kniggits. Perhaps the German people will throw the clowns out of office once they figure out they've elected dunces.
Now about those threats to big coal in the U.S. of A....
I shouldn't think so. The Germans (as in general public) seem to genuinely not want nuclear, they have had strong Green politicians for years. I wasn't being ironic, I'm genuinely interested in how they propose to do it. I was, however, being ironic about the electric cars as the very same people who are against nuclear (and coal, and oil, and gas) power are often the very same who want electric cars - they just seen to think electric cars run on magic moonbeams rather than the output of power stations.
My observation- this move by the German government is bonkers.
It's going to be interesting to see how they are going to replace the 23% of their generating capacity - plus power all those electric cars that are being touted so hard.
Don't know if anybody else has been following it but there has been a series of excellent articles on this issue in the Guardian (both for and against). The comments are also worth reading (if you have time!!).
Thorium makes perfect sense....therefore it won't happen....
