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Posted: May 22, 2020 - 5:47am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
Suicides on the rise amid stay-at-home order, Bay Area medical professionals say
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WALNUT CREEK, Calif. (KGO) — Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the COVID-19 virus.

"We've never seen numbers like this, in such a short period of time," he said.

"I mean we've seen a year's worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks."
 

This result was predicted before the shutdown and was used as a reason to implement a milder response earlier, but we as a nation dithered around until the only tool available was the hammer.
 
The goal was to flatten the curve so as not to overwhelm hospitals.  That mission has been accomplished as best as I can tell.  Now the goal posts are being moved especially with blue governors saying they will keep their hammer down until they get a vaccine.  I guess we will see many more of these deaths by despair as a direct result.  They may even be more than what the virus accomplishes.

So called "essential workers" will become America's next slaves.  They work and risk their lives so no one else has to.  That is where this is headed.
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Posted: May 22, 2020 - 5:09am



 kurtster wrote:
Suicides on the rise amid stay-at-home order, Bay Area medical professionals say
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WALNUT CREEK, Calif. (KGO) — Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the COVID-19 virus.

"We've never seen numbers like this, in such a short period of time," he said.

"I mean we've seen a year's worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks."
 

This result was predicted before the shutdown and was used as a reason to implement a milder response earlier, but we as a nation dithered around until the only tool available was the hammer.
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Posted: May 22, 2020 - 4:23am

Suicides on the rise amid stay-at-home order, Bay Area medical professionals say
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WALNUT CREEK, Calif. (KGO) — Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the COVID-19 virus.

"We've never seen numbers like this, in such a short period of time," he said.

"I mean we've seen a year's worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks."
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Posted: May 22, 2020 - 2:24am

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.. at first stunned, then very happy.. 
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Posted: May 22, 2020 - 2:00am

Scientists believe cannabis could help prevent and treat coronavirus

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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 8:46pm

Mr. Acerbic

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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 6:25pm

Excess mortality analysis...
Coronavirus may have caused hundreds of additional deaths in Florida
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 5:10pm



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You get a trillion and you get a trillion !  So what does that make Pelosi ?
 
An amateur when it comes to giving away money.

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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 4:53pm

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YOU get a billion!....and YOU get a billion!  He's Pandemic Oprah.

 
You get a trillion and you get a trillion !  So what does that make Pelosi ?
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 3:19pm



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You can either do a proper review of direct causes and root causes or you can try to assign blame. The first option is the only one that will be successful at preparing for the next time.

 
Is there an expectation that this administration will leave behind a lessons learned playbook to the next administration?

 
Managers hate root-cause analysis because instead of stopping at, "Some bozo flipped the wrong switch,"  you end up digging deeper to "seventeen switches were installed right next to each other and only had labels with tiny numbers," and "The training manual didn't say what order to flip the switches and management wouldn't fund a review of the training when it was recommended after the previous screw-up."

Same thing with politicians, who often don't want to see the actual effects of their decisions. That's why we need whistleblower protection.

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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 2:23pm

He said that while a vaccine could be developed, “I wouldn’t count on it”, and urged people to wear masks, wash hands, clean surfaces and keep a distance.

“Do not listen to the politicians who say we’re going to have one by the time my re election comes around,” he said. “Maybe we will (but) I’m just saying it’s not a slam-dunk case by any means ... because every time people have tried to make a vaccine – for Sars or Mers – it hasn’t actually protected.”

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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 2:11pm



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and now I see this morning that Moderna is on the outs. 

AstraZeneca with the help of Oxford just got a billion $ plus infusion from the USA for their vaccine which they promise that they can deliver 1 billion doses by the end of the year.
 
YOU get a billion!....and YOU get a billion!  He's Pandemic Oprah.

He'd ship Ivanka and Melania to North Korea for a few nights if he could find someone to come up with a vaccine before November.  If the billions don't deliver a vaccine....he'll pay a firm to say they have one the weekend before the election.

On the bright side....we don't need as many doses as we would have had he shown any leadership.
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 1:35pm

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Heavy hearts soared Monday with news that Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine candidate — the frontrunner in the American market — seemed to be generating an immune response in Phase 1 trial subjects. The company’s stock valuation also surged, hitting $29 billion, an astonishing feat for a company that currently sells zero products.

But was there good reason for so much enthusiasm? Several vaccine experts asked by STAT concluded that, based on the information made available by the Cambridge, Mass.-based company, there’s really no way to know how impressive — or not — the vaccine may be.

While Moderna blitzed the media, it revealed very little information — and most of what it did disclose were words, not data. That’s important: If you ask scientists to read a journal article, they will scour data tables, not corporate statements. With science, numbers speak much louder than words.
 
and now I see this morning that Moderna is on the outs. 

AstraZeneca with the help of Oxford just got a billion $ plus infusion from the USA for their vaccine which they promise that they can deliver 1 billion doses by the end of the year.
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 12:35pm

Heavy hearts soared Monday with news that Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine candidate — the frontrunner in the American market — seemed to be generating an immune response in Phase 1 trial subjects. The company’s stock valuation also surged, hitting $29 billion, an astonishing feat for a company that currently sells zero products.

But was there good reason for so much enthusiasm? Several vaccine experts asked by STAT concluded that, based on the information made available by the Cambridge, Mass.-based company, there’s really no way to know how impressive — or not — the vaccine may be.

While Moderna blitzed the media, it revealed very little information — and most of what it did disclose were words, not data. That’s important: If you ask scientists to read a journal article, they will scour data tables, not corporate statements. With science, numbers speak much louder than words.

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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 11:45am

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Hmmm.  Something bothering you ?  You just reposted this in the economix thread.
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 9:46am

i'm pretty sure if you use bing for search they'll send the revenue to one of a couple-o-outfits

maybe the cdc is the default

just sayin'


Microsoft announced a new feature today for its Microsoft Rewards program that allows users to automatically donate value they earn by searching on Bing to the charity of their choice.

The feature is now live in some regions such as the United States and can be activated from within the Microsoft Rewards settings page.

“With everything that’s happening these days, one thing that I am trying to keep in mind and model for my kids is how small things can make a big difference,” Microsoft’s Liat Ben-Zur wrote in a blog post. “Whether that’s self-care or looking out for others. Today, we are introducing Give with Bing and the Give Mode feature in Bing, a new way to help you to support the causes you care about. It’s a simple thing but it has the potential for real impact. If you choose to search in Bing you can earn reward points for those searches as part of the Microsoft Rewards program. By turning on the new Give Mode feature within your rewards settings, you can donate your reward points to the cause of your choice. There is no cost to you, just search with Bing.”

One of the organisations supported is the CDC Foundation which is involved in tackling the COVID-19 pandemic. Microsoft will also match all donations made until the end of June, making this a rather remarkable way to support a good cause completely for free.

Are you going to activate Bing’s new Give Mode? Let us know in the comments below and then follow us on Pinterest and Twitter for more Microsoft tech news.

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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 9:28am



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The New York Times this morning reports that people returning to office buildings in coming weeks may have more to worry about than contracting the coronavirus from fellow employees.

According to the story, "Office buildings once filled with employees emptied out in many cities and states as shelter-in-place orders were issued. These structures, normally in constant use, have been closed off and shut down, and health risks might be accumulating in unseen ways."

Like Legionnaires’ disease.

Here's how the Times sketches out the potential problem…

"'The buildings aren’t designed to be left alone for months,' said Andrew Whelton, an associate professor of civil, environmental and ecological engineering at Purdue University.

"Dr. Whelton, other researchers and public health authorities have issued warnings about the plumbing in these buildings, where water may have gone stagnant in the pipes or even in individual taps and toilets. As lockdowns are lifted, bacteria that build up internally may cause health problems for returning workers if the problem is not properly addressed by facilities managers. Employees and guests at hotels, gyms and other kinds of buildings may also be at risk.

"The biggest worry is Legionella pneumophila. The bacteria can cause Legionnaires’ disease, a respiratory condition. It leads to death in about one in 10 cases, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine estimates that over 52,000 Americans suffer from the disease each year."

 
Good issues to look at. Facilities Managers need specific guidelines for 'pre-opening' buildings. Like sending PPE-equipped staff around to flush every toilet, run every faucet, and add water to every drain. The traps are likely dried out, which allows sewer gas in. Nasty and very unhealthy.

Not to mention HVAC systems - even if they've been running, the filters need replacing, coils need cleaning, etc. etc.

edit: not to mention the break-room fridges with food left in them. Even if the power stayed on, there could be some new life forms in there. Ugh.

There are several facilities-oriented professional groups, they are publishing guidelines for re-opening, specific to property/facility managers.
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 7:41am

Can you call me back in 3 hours? I'm disinfecting the groceries. Ha!

No need to wipe down groceries or takeout, experts say, but do wash your hands
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 7:25am

 ColdMiser wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


 
You can either do a proper review of direct causes and root causes or you can try to assign blame. The first option is the only one that will be successful at preparing for the next time.

 
Is there an expectation that this administration will leave behind a lessons learned playbook to the next administration?

 
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