It covers the history of Ukraine from the dark ages until today. Maps are shown, so it shoudln't be all too hard to follow, for the first half.
The second half would be much more intricate to relate, two interviews with 'experts', one from Ukraine, and one from France. I'd rather refrain from that one (crazy thought, y'know)...
Putin, die Ukraine und danach? | Mit offenen Karten Spezial Ukraine | ARTE
I think, this is a fair and balanced view of the history and political situation re: Ukraine we're all finding ourselves in at this time, as presented by French-German TV
Unfortunately, the video is in German... but I thought it might be manageable to view, at least by some here, so I posted it. Listen in, most will get the gist. And if you do, keep listening to the very end!
Or—crazy thought, I know—you could summarize the video since you find it so hep.
Almost universally*, from leaders in Europe and Asia to current and former American officials, Ukraine is being viewed as a test for the survival of a 75-year-old idea: that liberal democracy, American military might and free trade can create the conditions for peace and global prosperity.
Because the founder of that concept, the United States, continues to struggle â with partisanship, Covid and failure in distant war zones â many foreign policy leaders already see Ukraine in dire terms, as marking an official end of the American era and the start of a more contested, multipolar moment.
For at least a decade, liberal democracies have been disappearing. Their numbers peaked in 2012 with 42 countries, and now there are just 34, home to only 13 percent of the world population, according to V-Dem, a nonprofit that studies governments. In many of those, including the United States, âtoxic polarizationâ is on the rise.
NATO countries can no longer quietly accommodate Russian aggression and hydrocarbon blackmailing.
At least they will still have Saudi aggression and hydrocarbon blackmailing to compensate (a little, but not enough, according to knowledgeable people).
Or it might be like Iraq. Almost nobody notices the coffins coming home (because not in the sanitized media).
Russia can't sustain this war and hoped-for occupation, economically or militarily. NATO countries can no longer quietly accommodate Russian aggression and hydrocarbon blackmailing. Russia will be a pariah as long as Putin rules (with the possible exception of China).
Almost universally*, from leaders in Europe and Asia to current and former American officials, Ukraine is being viewed as a test for the survival of a 75-year-old idea: that liberal democracy, American military might and free trade can create the conditions for peace and global prosperity.
Because the founder of that concept, the United States, continues to struggle â with partisanship, Covid and failure in distant war zones â many foreign policy leaders already see Ukraine in dire terms, as marking an official end of the American era and the start of a more contested, multipolar moment.
For at least a decade, liberal democracies have been disappearing. Their numbers peaked in 2012 with 42 countries, and now there are just 34, home to only 13 percent of the world population, according to V-Dem, a nonprofit that studies governments. In many of those, including the United States, âtoxic polarizationâ is on the rise.
conditioning and indoctrination
it's not just blatant lying/agitprop
controlling/suppressing relevant information and criminalizing free speech
putin is erasing/eradicating the ukrainian infrastructure, the culture and a lot of the people
(and china just moved to close the last remaining uyghur cultural center earlier this week?)
human rights be damned
I guess it might be a bit like Vietnam... when the boys start coming home in coffins, the mood might slowly swing.
conditioning and indoctrination
it's not just blatant lying/agitprop
controlling/suppressing relevant information and criminalizing free speech
putin is erasing/eradicating the ukrainian infrastructure, the culture and a lot of the people
(and china just moved to close the last remaining uyghur cultural center earlier this week?)
human rights be damned
I guess it might be a bit like Vietnam... when the boys start coming home in coffins, the mood might slowly swing.
What coffins? The Russians are cremating the dead, not taking them home. Putin's popularity within Russia is up 10 points since invading. Russia is a lot like the US in that there are 2 populations, the city dwellers....educated, connected, skeptical, and considerate of options (the coasts in the US...to generalize), and those who are emotional, overly patriotic, very tribal, subject to misinformation and conspiracy (fly-over country). If anyone thinks the masses are going to protest in Russia and force Putin out....you're going to be disappointed in how long that could take. The best hope is that some of the elites get fed up and take him down.
Again sadly have to agree with this. On that point there is something a bit sick about big countries. Not just the aggressor ones but all the ones I've been to. They are so huge, their people get really insular and think what their government does must be ok, partly because those other nations are so tiny and so far over the horizon, they just don't bear thinking about, if they even know their names or what they stand for.
Despite the odd ray of light to the contrary, most Russians seem to have bought into this NATO encroachment thesis hook, line and sinker. It's the old fear of invasion (well I wonder where that came from) and they seriously believe their country is under attack and Putin is defending them, even if he has to take drastic action.
Crazy shit. But I think we need to reach out to ordinary Russians a whole lot more. No idea how to do it, mind now that virtually all communication is blocked off.
"Our side" still needs some more messaging to get there...
I guess it might be a bit like Vietnam... when the boys start coming home in coffins, the mood might slowly swing.
What coffins? The Russians are cremating the dead, not taking them home. Easier to keep support for missing and possibly captured soldiers than for dead ones.
Putin's popularity within Russia is up 10 points since invading. Russia is a lot like the US in that there are 2 populations, the city dwellers....educated, connected, skeptical, and considerate of options (the coasts in the US...to generalize), and those who are emotional, overly patriotic, very tribal, subject to misinformation and conspiracy (fly-over country).
If anyone thinks the masses are going to protest in Russia and force Putin out....you're going to be disappointed in how long that could take. The best hope is that some of the elites get fed up and take him down.
Interesting weekend, taking supplies across to the relief effort, like just about everyone else here in town (they have been absolutely inundated), through to speaking with a neighbour whose Polish friend is married to a Russian and lives in St. Petersburg. Despite the odd ray of light to the contrary, most Russians seem to have bought into this NATO encroachment thesis hook, line and sinker. It's the old fear of invasion (well I wonder where that came from) and they seriously believe their country is under attack and Putin is defending them, even if he has to take drastic action. Crazy shit. But I think we need to reach out to ordinary Russians a whole lot more. No idea how to do it, mind now that virtually all communication is blocked off.
classic authoritarian media control putin knows if the people knew the truth they'd probably protest en masse small sample below
I guess it might be a bit like Vietnam... when the boys start coming home in coffins, the mood might slowly swing.
Interesting weekend, taking supplies across to the relief effort, like just about everyone else here in town (they have been absolutely inundated), through to speaking with a neighbour whose Polish friend is married to a Russian and lives in St. Petersburg. Despite the odd ray of light to the contrary, most Russians seem to have bought into this NATO encroachment thesis hook, line and sinker. It's the old fear of invasion (well I wonder where that came from) and they seriously believe their country is under attack and Putin is defending them, even if he has to take drastic action.
Crazy shit. But I think we need to reach out to ordinary Russians a whole lot more. No idea how to do it, mind now that virtually all communication is blocked off.
classic authoritarian media control
putin knows if the people knew the truth they'd probably protest en masse
small sample below
He couldn’t maintain popular support after this move, and like any good billionaire, just said “F**k it, I’ll build my own nationwide Jewish organisation and fill it with people who won’t dissent”
This man is pretty obviously just a grifter and a mobster, who rips off eastern European oligarchs with contract fraud,
anti-semitic much?
Funny thing, I've noticed that just about every other Ukrainian of the 41 million who make up the country have also politely asked the Russians to go home, they weren't invited. And every other former Eastern bloc country, with the exception of Serbia stands fully behind Ukraine. Now, why would that be, do you think?
Interesting weekend, taking supplies across to the relief effort, like just about everyone else here in town (they have been absolutely inundated), through to speaking with a neighbour whose Polish friend is married to a Russian and lives in St. Petersburg. Despite the odd ray of light to the contrary, most Russians seem to have bought into this NATO encroachment thesis hook, line and sinker. It's the old fear of invasion (well I wonder where that came from) and they seriously believe their country is under attack and Putin is defending them, even if he has to take drastic action.
Crazy shit. But I think we need to reach out to ordinary Russians a whole lot more. No idea how to do it, mind now that virtually all communication is blocked off.
