whatshisname wrote:

I first read it from here:

Glenn Greenwald@ggreenwald

No matter your views, no propaganda is as potent and difficult to resist as war propaganda. The more complete the societal consensus, the less room for questioning, the harder it becomes. It becomes a closed system. It targets our deepest emotions and instincts. Good thread: 👇Quote 

TweetTucker Max@TuckerMax · 11h 

A lot of people asked me why I posted about ignoring the Ukrainian/Russian war.

I don't know war, but I do know media, and everything about how the war is being covered is sending up major red flags to me.

Two quick examples:Show this thread12:53 PM · Feb 26, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

 Animal-Farm wrote:
Someone really needs to lay off the mushrooms a bit me thinks.

 R_P wrote:

I actually have no idea what to think about Ukraine, but kinda reminds me of Wag the Dog

Those cities are as cosmopolitan and first word as anyplace, and they are being terrorized

An interesting take I read the other day was Ukraine is the size of Texas, and Putin's 200-300 k troops will be unable to survive amongst 48 million Ukrainians.

Different than China which can send in millions of occupants, as would happen in Taiwan

So perhaps this is a testing to see the playbook for how the powers react, and China will adjust accordingly.

 Animal-Farm found:

Clay Martin, Dr of Jihad@wayofftheres·10h
Hey look, let’s take breath. Does this while UKR narrative seem a bit….off? I don’t know exactly what, but the outliers are adding up. Russia has so far committed the B team, with very little arty or air. They are out if guided munitions you say? Well they have plenty of dumb

Ones, and historically aren’t shy about using them. Russian POWs that look like they are 12. 70s era Soviet doctrine, after AFG, Chechnya 1&2, and Georgia as practice? From a nation of chess players? Then the stories. Ghost of Kiev, sunflower seed lady, the 13, battle for Chernob

Meanwhile, our own State Dept sanctions Russia and Putin personally, but not the gas/oil? Says by design sanctions do not affect gas flow, as well as it doesn’t affect US oil imports from Russia? UKR pres out fighting in the streets…

I don’t know exactly what or why, but this affair is starting to feel scripted. Now that on its face is crazy, but …. What if? What is the end game? Am I losing my shit here? Anyone else feeling some deep “off” about this whole affair

Its 2022. There should be tons of cell videos of all the action….rarely showing a few engagements. I watched live stream last night (0330-0530 Ukraine time) and only hear sporadic gunfire. Seems super suspect. Where are the pics of the downed jets? All the Russ that surrendered?

Ask yourself why they even still have electricity, internet,
and cellphone communications…knocking those out would Norma be a top priority. Don’t anyone come at me with they have a superior grid than we do.

Tucker Max@TuckerMax·10h

A lot of people asked me why I posted about ignoring the Ukrainian/Russian war.

I don't know war, but I do know media, and everything about how the war is being covered is sending up major red flags to me.

Two quick examples:
1. Hero stories popup immediately, that end up not being true.

The 13 guards telling the Russian naval ship to fuck off (turns out they surrendered), the "Ghost of Kyiv" (doesn't seem to be true), the sunflower seed story, etc...

MOST telling, media runs them uncritically.
2. The biggest weird thing to me: no one stopped buying oil/gas from Russia.

Germany said they will keep buying.

US State Dept went so far as to say, EXPLICITLY, that sanctions are designed to NOT stop the flow of gas.

What? Those exports are 30% of the Russian economy. 11:28 AM · Feb 26, 2022·

I have no doubt that real Ukrainians civilians are dying and suffering on the ground, and that sucks.

But do these actions seem like the actions of warring states?

No.

In the American media, it seems like a spectacle put on to either distract or "manufacture consent."

I'm not going to fall for it.

The primary power media—and it's masters—have over us is our attention.

I choose to not give it to them (yes trolls, aside from writing this, lol).

Today I'm feeding my cows, going to BJJ and being with my family.

Neil Young has announced he's pulling more music until Putin leaves Ukraine.  

Putin humiliated as 3,500 troops killed, 200 captured...

 Red_Dragon wrote:
Say no to handouts! Except they need weapons to fight the government...

livemap

Every American ammosexual's wet dream - a government handing out AKs to everyone.

Germany will send 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 stinger missiles to Ukraine, the German chancellor said on Saturday. 

Finally. That is huge change in German policy. 

 rgio wrote:

The old days of cops in cars doing a stakeout are obsolete, they use cell phone mobility data and cameras that alert and playback any interesting event. And the satellites, I hear you, widely used by short sellers on wall Street, insurance companies, lots of ways to have awareness without being present. 

 Steely_D wrote:
My daughter works for a company that measures the amount of oil in a storage tank using satellites with SAR (synthetic aperture radar) which works at night, through storms, in real-time.  They can count cars in a parking lot, and track movements over time using a library of images.  It's pretty amazing stuff, and most of it is free from governments who own the satellites.  

While the US and NATO may not be willing to put boots on the ground, they are definitely feeding the Ukrainians very detailed information on movements.   The cameras are nice...but not so necessary. 

An example of the technology, they held a contest to see what people thought would be interesting, and the winner was the Monitoring of Illegal Fishing

 Ivanhoe wrote:

couple of thoughts on this
could he have miscalculated?
short term maybe:
he's going to war with the tools he has, some are described by a couple of analysts as vintage 1970s while the ukrianes have a lot of 2000s tech like javelins and NLAWS
or he just doesn't want to destroy infrastructure and minimize damage to his victims
long term: he most certainly did, the fallout and blowback from this will remove any doubt that anyone has about his character/intentions
and putin doesn't have the resources to sustain his occupation 
eventually he will have to leave

it's looking like this war is between putin (not russia/russians) and the ukraine
hopefully in his demise he doesn't try and take too many innocent people with him

 Steely_D wrote:

that made me lol for real
~sfw

Just watching a USA air force F16 been doing heaps of crazy figure 8 's along the Ukraine/Romanian border while couple USA helicopters were doing similar along the Polish/Ukraine border.  No commercial aircraft in Ukraine airspace, elsewhere the skies are packed.
Fascinating but ever so sad whats taking place.
Was listening to some Ukrainians reporting that they were fleeing and having to abandon much loved pets. One guy basically ditched a load of food and water on the floor of his house leaving his dog to whatever , fully expecting to have said a final goodbye. I would be shattered to have to do that to my dogs. War stinks.

Steve Schmidt@SteveSchmidtSES There are a couple of things to keep in perspective. The University of Michigan has a stadium that holds 107,000 people. That means all of the Russian troops invading Ukraine would fit in two stadiums. The Ukraine is the size of Texas and has 42 million people. Putin has erred

supply chain and logistics will decide the outcome, IMHO 

 westslope wrote:

Your rabid disdain of US foreign policy, while understandable, is making you blind to the legitimate interests of the people of the former Eastern bloc, who you here oh-so-casually cast at the feet of a despotic power. They lived through 45 years of Soviet occupation. They most certainly do not want to go back. 

 Steely_D wrote: