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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 5:30am

 black321 wrote:
 Hmm, MEAGA? (MakeEurAsiaGreatAgain).
Backwards looking, trying and maybe successfully unwinding global progress...though he is right in some cases, like how far gone today's liberals are.  ps., glad you  are safe and hopefully things settle down.
 

coffee thoughts

in the US we have misused liberal and conservative labels out of convenience

there are generally liberal and conservative people, but we shouldn't conflate them with dogmatic radicals on the far right and far left

those radicals (far left and far right) certainly aren't liberal or conservative, they're two sides of the same authoritarian coin

liberal values, which are essentially basic human rights, are at a stark difference with extremists endorsing violence

the challenge with some of the poor reasoning and logic of the post modern believers is there isn't an objective truth

especially when attempting to justify bad behavior and their unprovoked aggression you'll frequently hear loaded emotional phrases like my lived experience, standing in my truth, etc.

when definitions are comprised, language is up for grabs and objective reality gets distorted (reality is what we say it is type of thought)

spooky mysticism begets distorted epistemology resulting in societal chaos and it is all up for a power grab

bottom line: it is all about power, who has it, wields it and forces it on the masses to comply with whatever they think society should be

power, forcefully ruling over other humans it is the only thing they know

regards
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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 4:16am

 deltaindia wrote:

Hi. I am ok. Tomorrow maybe I can describe the situation.  All is very hard(( Thank you for your support.



good luck 
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 2:34am

Edit: (link seems broken) but there was an announcement that citizens in Kharkiv should shelter in basements

deltaindia could do with some good juju right now.

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 11:39pm

 deltaindia wrote:
Hi. I am ok. Tomorrow maybe I can describe the situation.  All is very hard(( Thank you for your support.

 
Good to hear you are ok. 
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 11:37pm

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 whatshisname wrote:

Russia's...

Please don't engage them. They're simply trolling in many forums.
 
Well, yes, but they are kind of useful, for you can rest assured that the arguments they tout are meant to divert away from the stuff that really upsets their paymasters. 

This whole fear of NATO thing and protecting the geographical borders is actually bullshit. The invading hordes are not on horseback anymore. They come via the internet and with rules-based agreements in their hands.  It's also obvious that geopolitical manoeuvring is not Putin's main reason for the war, as he just opened his entire back door to the Chinese, who will be rubbing their hands in glee.

No, Robert Reich is right at least on this one. What Putin is actually afraid of is the spread of liberal democracy. Look at how repressive the reaction was in Belarus. Now Ukraine. Putin knows his days are numbered and he feels like a cornered rat - and he's acting like one.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 9:09pm

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Please don't engage them. They're simply trolling in many forums.



Everyone is an equally valid member.
Are you engaging in harassment and bullying?
That's against the rules.
Focus on the debate, not personalities
Thanks
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 7:03pm

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"This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden Admin/NATO had simply acknowledged Russia’s legitimate security concerns regarding Ukraine’s becoming a member of NATO, which would mean US/NATO forces right on Russia’s border"



Russia tries to justify it's aggression against Ukraine as it places yet another potential NATO/OTAN member on Russia's door step.
Will not the current attack on Ukraine ,if successful still bring Russia hard up against borders of existing NATO/OTAN members along with all their forces?
That argument falls short Mr. Putin.
This is more about a corrupt bored-shitless dictator doing a power/land grab of Ukraine's wealth potential.







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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 4:16pm

 deltaindia wrote:

Hi. I am ok. Tomorrow maybe I can describe the situation.  All is very hard(( Thank you for your support.





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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 3:59pm

appeasement?!?
"This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden Admin/NATO had simply acknowledged Russia’s legitimate security concerns regarding Ukraine’s becoming a member of NATO, which would mean US/NATO forces right on Russia’s border"
WEF's Tulsi Gabbard
Like Putin would be nicer if we were further away? Not likely....

As a reserve officer in the Army not sure why she gets to criticize the commanding officer, perhaps her WEF membership? Putin is WEF too. 
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 3:41pm

 deltaindia wrote:

Hi. I am ok. Tomorrow maybe I can describe the situation.  All is very hard(( Thank you for your support.





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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 3:34pm

 miamizsun wrote:


posted this in the russia thread about a month ago
===========================================

for me this was sort of difficult to follow (due to accent) while driving, but once seated at home i found it worthwhile

highlights really poor thinking (or thought process) of the extremes
typical pre-modern and post-modern framework
authoritarian rule and an unabashed lack of fidelity to objective science
what could go wrong? ;-)

and this guy is supposedly very influential to putin...









Hmm, MEAGA? (MakeEurAsiaGreatAgain).
Backwards looking, trying and maybe successfully unwinding global progress...though he is right in some cases, like how far gone today's liberals are. 

ps., glad you  are safe and hopefully things settle down.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 3:11pm

Hi. I am ok. Tomorrow maybe I can describe the situation.  All is very hard(( Thank you for your support.

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 2:19pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

oh lord, another religious nut..

At the heart of this post-Soviet revival of Christianity is another Vladimir. Vladimir Putin. Many people don’t appreciate the extent to which the invasion of Ukraine is a spiritual quest for him. The Baptism of Rus is the founding event of the formation of the Russian religious psyche, the Russian Orthodox church traces its origins back here. That’s why Putin is not so much interested in a few Russian-leaning districts to the east of Ukraine. His goal, terrifyingly, is Kyev itself. 

Great links btw, keep them coming. 


The West has long understood the cultural and religious significance of Ukraine to Russia. No surprise here.

If Putin is really motivated to invade Ukraine and seize Kyev because of the long-ago past, he is mentally unbalanced. Such a mindset reminds me of Hitler's desire to conquer Russia and other Eastern Europe countries because they were populated by Untermensch Slavs who threatened the cultural and genetic purity of the Germans.

Putin is likely more motivated by his desire to restore a Russia-based empire with satellite regions and states serving as protective buffers around Russia. Controlling Ukraine would help allow Russia guard against invasion from the West over the European plain and solidify his control of gas flows through Ukraine to Germany and other Western nations.

Russia and the Curse of Geography

Want to understand why Putin does what he does? Look at a map.

By Tim Marshall

Russia’s Clash With the West Is About Geography, Not Ideology


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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 1:01pm

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You mean, like this 2017 article by Australia News on the Russian playbook (published at the height of this 'other conspiracy')? 
In some other press-release, Aleksandr Dugin, the author of the book previously mentioned had been named as Putin's Guru with the author  meanwhile sanctioned by the US and Canada, in person.



posted this in the russia thread about a month ago
===========================================

for me this was sort of difficult to follow (due to accent) while driving, but once seated at home i found it worthwhile

highlights really poor thinking (or thought process) of the extremes
typical pre-modern and post-modern framework
authoritarian rule and an unabashed lack of fidelity to objective science
what could go wrong? ;-)

and this guy is supposedly very influential to putin...







NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 11:28am

 Ivanhoe wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

oh lord, another religious nut..
At the heart of this post-Soviet revival of Christianity is another Vladimir. Vladimir Putin. Many people don’t appreciate the extent to which the invasion of Ukraine is a spiritual quest for him. The Baptism of Rus is the founding event of the formation of the Russian religious psyche, the Russian Orthodox church traces its origins back here. That’s why Putin is not so much interested in a few Russian-leaning districts to the east of Ukraine. His goal, terrifyingly, is Kyev itself. 

Great links btw, keep them coming. 

You mean, like this 2017 article by Australia News on the Russian playbook (published at the height of this 'other conspiracy')? 
In some other press-release, Aleksandr Dugin, the author of the book previously mentioned had been named as Putin's Guru with the author  meanwhile sanctioned by the US and Canada, in person.
 
good lord, I love this. You supply written confirmation of everything I have suspected over the years. 
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 11:07am

that religious bent btw, helps explain this
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 11:05am

 Ivanhoe wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

yep, there's the definite whiff of a poker player suddenly throwing all his chips down and is now playing for broke. EDIT, I should also add, that that means he knows he's got a losing hand, which of course makes him dangerous as hell.
You mean the Vlad, or his chief of spies?
 
oh lord, another religious nut..

At the heart of this post-Soviet revival of Christianity is another Vladimir. Vladimir Putin. Many people don’t appreciate the extent to which the invasion of Ukraine is a spiritual quest for him. The Baptism of Rus is the founding event of the formation of the Russian religious psyche, the Russian Orthodox church traces its origins back here. That’s why Putin is not so much interested in a few Russian-leaning districts to the east of Ukraine. His goal, terrifyingly, is Kyev itself. 

Great links btw, keep them coming. 
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 11:00am

 black321 wrote:
Protests in Red Square
https://twitter.com/i/status/1...
 
... and Putin is starting to lose his friends...
black321

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 10:40am

Protests in Red Square
https://twitter.com/i/status/1...

NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 10:37am

 black321 wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

{#Sick} omg, the look of fear on his face.  as to internal solutions.. one can only hope.
Putin allowing this to get out, and his threats of nuclear response to any western interference...seems like he's smells the weakness, chaos... in the west, and playing all his cards. 
 
yep, there's the definite whiff of a poker player suddenly throwing all his chips down and is now playing for broke.

EDIT, I should also add, that that means he knows he's got a losing hand, which of course makes him dangerous as hell.
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