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songs that ROCK! - Ohmsen - Oct 16, 2021 - 2:30pm
 
Pernicious Pious Proclivities Particularized Prodigiously - Red_Dragon - Oct 16, 2021 - 1:28pm
 
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Things You Thought Today - Red_Dragon - Oct 15, 2021 - 9:16pm
 
Great Old Songs You Rarely Hear Anymore - KurtfromLaQuinta - Oct 15, 2021 - 8:26pm
 
Best.Idea.Ever. - Red_Dragon - Oct 15, 2021 - 7:37pm
 
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Joe Biden - R_P - Oct 15, 2021 - 4:32pm
 
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NORGE (Norway) - Ohmsen - Oct 14, 2021 - 6:39am
 
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Unresearched Conspiracy Theories - Ohmsen - Oct 14, 2021 - 6:01am
 
Unquiet Minds - Mental Health Forum - miamizsun - Oct 14, 2021 - 4:45am
 
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haresfur

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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 2:20am

 kcar wrote:


Powell was misled about the intelligence but he should have known that his case on WMDs was circumstantial. I can't remember whether Powell supported invading Iraq instead of pressing for inspections. 

However, Powell only contributed to war with Iraq. He did not cause it and wasn't even a primary cause of it. Powell provided a fig leaf of respectability and some hazy rationale to the war. Dick Cheney was far more responsible, ignoring the American intelligence community's assessment that Saddam likely did not have WMD stockpiles or a working alliance with Al Qaeda. Instead, Cheney told lie after lie to push the US into war with Iraq. He was also one of the major promoters of our torturing Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere. 


I don't see how Powell was misled unless he more incompetent than I believe he was. The Department of Energy is the US agency that deals with nuclear non-proliferation and you heard nothing attributed to them in the lead up to the war. I think it is clear they didn't believe Iraq had an active nuclear weapon development program of any consequence and were sidelined. 

No, he didn't cause the war, but he was trusted by even Democrats and he squandered that trust. I expect he knew full well that was going to be the end of his political career. 

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Posted: Oct 18, 2021 - 10:06pm

 islander wrote:

We are all very complex animals, and often defined by those acts most at odds with our character.  As you said, he was a soldier at heart, so he followed orders. He did a lot of good things, that that one speech and all that followed (because of the speech and the integrity of the speaker) are on him. It was a mistake, and he owns the bodies on all sides of it.  


Powell was misled about the intelligence but he should have known that his case on WMDs was circumstantial. I can't remember whether Powell supported invading Iraq instead of pressing for inspections. 

However, Powell only contributed to war with Iraq. He did not cause it and wasn't even a primary cause of it. Powell provided a fig leaf of respectability and some hazy rationale to the war. Dick Cheney was far more responsible, ignoring the American intelligence community's assessment that Saddam likely did not have WMD stockpiles or a working alliance with Al Qaeda. Instead, Cheney told lie after lie to push the US into war with Iraq. He was also one of the major promoters of our torturing Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere. 

https://www.theatlantic.com/po...

The disturbing thing is that back in 1994 Cheney said in an interview that invading Iraq after the Gulf War would have been disastrous and would have led to a quagmire. 

https://www.chicagotribune.com...

https://www.salon.com/2014/07/...

Yet after pushing for an invasion based on bad intelligence and leading to disaster for the US, Cheney insisted that invading and controlling Iraq was the right thing to do. 

https://time.com/2919765/dick-...


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Posted: Oct 18, 2021 - 6:23pm

 islander wrote:

We are all very complex animals, and often defined by those acts most at odds with our character.  As you said, he was a soldier at heart, so he followed orders. He did a lot of good things, that that one speech and all that followed (because of the speech and the integrity of the speaker) are on him. It was a mistake, and he owns the bodies on all sides of it.  


Ayup.
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Posted: Oct 18, 2021 - 6:20pm

 haresfur wrote:


It's a shame.  

I truly believe Powell always tried to act with integrity. I think he failed in one supremely important instance and attribute that to him being too military for that moment as Secretary of State. I cannot forget that, even with his death but recognise his greatness in other areas. I guess that's the same as one of my other American heroes, Harry Truman. I sadly accept the bombing of Hiroshima (my father probably would have been part of the Tokyo invasion), but think Nagasaki was unnecessary. No one will ever know.

We are all very complex animals, and often defined by those acts most at odds with our character.  As you said, he was a soldier at heart, so he followed orders. He did a lot of good things, that that one speech and all that followed (because of the speech and the integrity of the speaker) are on him. It was a mistake, and he owns the bodies on all sides of it.  
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Posted: Oct 18, 2021 - 3:57pm

 oldviolin wrote:

My personal choice for first Black American POTUS. Way before Obama was ever heard of in the national politic. How ironic him being fully vaccinated. The guy just had integrity; a sorely missed quality going into the future of darker days...
 
Yes he would of had my vote. A classy and honorable human being and a great leader of men. 

To General Powell, one of the few men of history  I would have liked to have met.
 {#Cheers}
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Posted: Oct 18, 2021 - 3:30pm

 oldviolin wrote:

My personal choice for first Black American POTUS. Way before Obama was ever heard of in the national politic. How ironic him being fully vaccinated. The guy just had integrity; a sorely missed quality going into the future of darker days...


It's a shame.  

I truly believe Powell always tried to act with integrity. I think he failed in one supremely important instance and attribute that to him being too military for that moment as Secretary of State. I cannot forget that, even with his death but recognise his greatness in other areas. I guess that's the same as one of my other American heroes, Harry Truman. I sadly accept the bombing of Hiroshima (my father probably would have been part of the Tokyo invasion), but think Nagasaki was unnecessary. No one will ever know.
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Posted: Oct 18, 2021 - 10:38am

 rgio wrote:
 oldviolin wrote:

My personal choice for first Black American POTUS. Way before Obama was ever heard of in the national politic.  . How ironic him being fully vaccinated. The guy just had integrity; a sorely missed quality going into the future of darker days...

I'm not sure I see the irony?  He has been fighting cancer and had a weakened immune system.  It's a PSA for getting a booster if you're at risk / over 65 / were vaccinated early (April and prior).
 
A life story absolutely full of irony, on several levels, especially with the Covid, including your suggestion of a PSA. Perhaps we have a different understanding of a bigger picture, or the breadth of ironic notions. Not good/bad right/wrong. Just different. Instructively. Creatively. Any way you wish to view it. {#Good-vibes}
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Posted: Oct 18, 2021 - 10:29am

 oldviolin wrote:

My personal choice for first Black American POTUS. Way before Obama. How ironic him being fully vaccinated. The guy just had integrity; a sorely missed quality going into the future of darker days...

I'm not sure I see the irony?  He has been fighting cancer and had a weakened immune system.  It's a PSA for getting a booster if you're at risk / over 65 / were vaccinated early (April and prior).

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Posted: Oct 18, 2021 - 10:03am

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 Proclivities wrote:I saw him speak when Hillary was Sec of State, and he was hysterical, really. After his speech, some buddies asked if I was gonna make his second set at the Comedy Club that night. Great line: "General, what do you think of Hillary as Sec of State?"
response: "She's in my plane!" And he told a story about how he was passing through a city (Dallas?) and decided he needed to fly to DC, so he pulled into the airport and paid for his ticket with cash. 
This was pretty soon after 9/11, so that triggered the extra-special TSA check (flight to capital, last minute, no luggage, paid in cash), so they pulled him out of line and were wanding him - knowing exactly who he was - and he remembered thinking "Who made up these stupid rules?!? Oh...it was me."
 
My personal choice for first Black American POTUS. Way before Obama was ever heard of in the national politic. How ironic him being fully vaccinated. The guy just had integrity; a sorely missed quality going into the future of darker days...
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Posted: Oct 18, 2021 - 9:55am

 Proclivities wrote:

I saw him speak when Hillary was Sec of State, and he was hysterical, really. After his speech, some buddies asked if I was gonna make his second set at the Comedy Club that night.

Great line: "General, what do you think of Hillary as Sec of State?"
response: "She's in my plane!"

And he told a story about how he was passing through a city (Dallas?) and decided he needed to fly to DC, so he pulled into the airport and paid for his ticket with cash. 
This was pretty soon after 9/11, so that triggered the extra-special TSA check (flight to capital, last minute, no luggage, paid in cash), so they pulled him out of line and were wanding him - knowing exactly who he was - and he remembered thinking "Who made up these stupid rules?!? Oh...it was me."




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Posted: Oct 18, 2021 - 7:38am

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Definitely one of the more imposing Secretaries of State in our time.   Agree or disagree, Powell was likeable and was even respected by those who disagreed.  

It is unfortunate that an otherwise fine career was blemished by the Iraq 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' lie.  

The invasion of Kuwait to dislodge Iraqi troops was perhaps the best US military intervention of the post-war period.  In.  Do the job (kick out the Iraqis).  Exit.  

I am not sure that the invasion of Panama was absolutely necessary but for whatever reason, the civilians killed during that operation never stuck to the US brand and reputation.

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Posted: Oct 18, 2021 - 5:26am

Colin Powell dead at 84 from COVID-19 complications
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Posted: Sep 29, 2021 - 4:15am

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:
 Red_Dragon wrote:Always loved how the fiddle player mimic the sounds.
 
Oh wow, I guess my latest mix has some prescient synchronicity in it.{#Sad}
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Posted: Sep 28, 2021 - 2:08pm

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:
Always loved how the fiddle player mimic the sounds.




I have to post the video from the article because I've never seen it and it's pretty great




And this doesn't have the Commander in it but here's Bill Kirchen doing his mimic-all-the-sounds on this song, along with the wonderful Redd Volkaert.

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Posted: Sep 28, 2021 - 12:34pm

 Red_Dragon wrote: Always loved how the fiddle player mimic the sounds.


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Posted: Sep 28, 2021 - 11:18am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

My brother was a big fan. I’ve still got one or two of his/their albums. 
yuel

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Posted: Sep 28, 2021 - 12:43am

Alan Lancaster


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Posted: Sep 27, 2021 - 6:17pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
I have a thing for talking blues and at one point had Hot Rod Lincoln memorised. It was harder back before you could look up lyrics on the internet. Also had a pleasant plane trip one time chatting with a Lost Planet Airman who was sitting next to me. Didn't go back and bug the Commander, though.

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Posted: Sep 27, 2021 - 8:57am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Drivin’ that Hotrod Lincoln into the sunset.
{#Cheers} 
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Posted: Sep 27, 2021 - 7:55am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

They played at the rodeo grounds in Cody, Wyoming when I was in junior high, I think. My parents decided my big sister was too young to go to a concert by herself w/friends, so I might have been in 6th grade. I should ask around and see if anyone who went remembers it. I don't think it sold well.

I've seen Bill Kirchen a couple of times though (telecaster in the video on that page). He's probably not as fast these days but I'd go see him again. Super fun and a nice guy. 
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