Yup I saw him pitch @ Fenway too. He is ranked #3 behind Cy Young and Roger Clemens all time Red Sox pitchers. That knuckleball of his gave him the longevity to get to that point. I also remember them using him as a closer and he was relatively successful.
I agree about retiring his number because he was also a helliva decent person giving back to the fans who needed it and had received The Roberto Clemente Award.
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Oct 2, 2023 - 2:58pm
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I had the pleasure of seeing him pitch at Fenway twice. One game he was unhittable, the other he got throttled. Such is the nature of the knuckleball. I didn't realize he was with the Sawx for 17 years and held a few records. Seems to me a guy like this deserves to have his #49 up in right field. Seems to me he meant more to the Red Sox than Wade Boggs ever did.
Yup I saw him pitch @ Fenway too. He is ranked #3 behind Cy Young and Roger Clemens all time Red Sox pitchers. That knuckleball of his gave him the longevity to get to that point. I also remember them using him as a closer and he was relatively successful.
I agree about retiring his number because he was also a helliva decent person giving back to the fans who needed it and had received The Roberto Clemente Award.
Very sad that Red Sox knuckleball pitcher Tim Wakefield passed away today from brain cancer at the young age of 57. One class A person.
This is very sad. The first thing that struck me was his age...and brain cancer. Darren Daulton was the Phillies catcher in the early 90's, and he died of brain cancer at 55. Other former Phillies who also died of glioblastoma:
Tug McGraw - 59
John Vukovich - 59
Johnny Oates - 58
Ken Brett - 55
David West - 57
That's 6 Phillies who played at The Vet who have died from brain cancer...all between 55 and 59 years old.
Other non-Phillies...
Gary Carter - 57, Bobby Murcer - 62, Dan Quisenberry - 45, Dick Howser - 51.
Here's hoping it's not from turf (as suspected in the Philly cluster).
Very sad that Red Sox knuckleball pitcher Tim Wakefield passed away today from brain cancer at the young age of 57. One class A person.
I had the pleasure of seeing him pitch at Fenway twice. One game he was unhittable, the other he got throttled. Such is the nature of the knuckleball. I didn't realize he was with the Sawx for 17 years and held a few records. Seems to me a guy like this deserves to have his #49 up in right field. Seems to me he meant more to the Red Sox than Wade Boggs ever did.
As a kid growing up in Philly in the 70's, Mike Schmidt was constantly compared to Brooks Robinson. He was the aspiration for what Schmidt might be one day.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/0... Brooks Robinson in 1967. He became known as the Human Vacuum Cleaner for his ability to snare just about anything hit his way.
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As a kid growing up in Philly in the 70's, Mike Schmidt was constantly compared to Brooks Robinson. He was the aspiration for what Schmidt might be one day.
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A fully-automated system could be error-free - no need for reviews.
safe/out will always need to have umpires make the first call, at least for the foreseeable future, because malfunctions happen and we will want to prove to everyone that there's not a way to game the system.
I think the balls/strikes we see on TV are always going to be subjective, even with that K-zone whatever box they put up, because parallax doesn't show us whether the ball literally did just clip the corner of the "cylinder" but appeared to be outside of the box. An umpire with two functioning eyeballs is constantly creating that cylinder in his mind using his powers of 3D perception, and for now has the potential advantage over that 2D box we see. So on close calls that look like balls but are called strikes, I figure the ump is probably right.
There are...but only for "big" plays...outs, fair or foul balls, fan interference, home runs. The balls and strikes are 100% human.
I was against replacing umps for a long time, but if you've watched the US Open tennis tournament, they have proven that we (to date) only need humans to hit and retrieve balls, and operate the equipment.
VAR is a major part of every soccer match globally now.
Baseball will follow suit soon.
They are apparently testing out a system with some AAA games - something like 10 cameras and sensors and such. MLB is waiting to see how reliable it is and may try it out in 2025 according to what I've read about it.
isn't there a room full of unknown hair-splitters somewhere looking at these cameras?
can't they over-ride or overturn a call on the field?
i'm not sure but this seems logical
A fully-automated system could be error-free - no need for reviews.
isn't there a room full of unknown hair-splitters somewhere looking at these cameras?
can't they over-ride or overturn a call on the field?
i'm not sure but this seems logical
There are...but only for "big" plays...outs, fair or foul balls, fan interference, home runs. The balls and strikes are 100% human.
I was against replacing umps for a long time, but if you've watched the US Open tennis tournament, they have proven that we (to date) only need humans to hit and retrieve balls, and operate the equipment.
VAR is a major part of every soccer match globally now.
I am 100% in support of abolishing the home-plate umpires and replacing them with cameras.
are you union busting?
because if you are...
isn't there a room full of unknown hair-splitters somewhere looking at these cameras?
can't they over-ride or overturn a call on the field?
i'm not sure but this seems logical
That's awful! 
