Joni Mitchell — Dreamland
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It's a long, long way from Canada
A long way from snow chains
Donkey vendors slicing coconut
No parkas to their name
Black babies covered in baking flour
The cook's got a carnival song
We're going to lay down someplace shady
With dreamland coming on
Dreamland, dreamland
Dreamland, dreamland
Walter Raleigh and Chris Columbus
Come marching out of the waves
And claim the beach and all concessions
In the name of the suntan slave
I wrapped that flag around me
Like a Dorothy Lamour sarong
And I lay down thinking national
With dreamland coming on
Dreamland, dreamland
Dreamland, dreamland
Goodtime Mary and a fortune hunter
All dressed up to follow the drums
Mary in a feather hula-hoop
Miss Fortune with a rose on her big game gun
All saints, all sinners shining
Heed those trumpets all night long
Propped up on a samba beat
With dreamland coming on
Dreamland, dreamland
Dreamland, dreamland
Tar baby and the Great White Wonder
Talking over a glass of rum
Burning on the inside
With the knowledge of things to come
There's gambling out on the terrace
And midnight ramblin' on the lawn
As they lead toward temptation
With dreamland coming on
Dreamland, dreamland
Dreamland, dreamland
In a plane flying back to winter
In shoes full of tropic sand
A lady in a foreign flag
On the arm of her Marlboro Man
The hawk howls in New York City
Six foot drifts on Myrtle's lawn
As they push the recline buttons down
With dreamland coming on
Dreamland, dreamland
Dreamland, dreamland
La, La ...
African sand on the trade winds
And the sun on the Amazon
As they push the reline buttons down
With dreamland coming on
Dreamland, dreamland
Dreamland, dreamland
A long way from snow chains
Donkey vendors slicing coconut
No parkas to their name
Black babies covered in baking flour
The cook's got a carnival song
We're going to lay down someplace shady
With dreamland coming on
Dreamland, dreamland
Dreamland, dreamland
Walter Raleigh and Chris Columbus
Come marching out of the waves
And claim the beach and all concessions
In the name of the suntan slave
I wrapped that flag around me
Like a Dorothy Lamour sarong
And I lay down thinking national
With dreamland coming on
Dreamland, dreamland
Dreamland, dreamland
Goodtime Mary and a fortune hunter
All dressed up to follow the drums
Mary in a feather hula-hoop
Miss Fortune with a rose on her big game gun
All saints, all sinners shining
Heed those trumpets all night long
Propped up on a samba beat
With dreamland coming on
Dreamland, dreamland
Dreamland, dreamland
Tar baby and the Great White Wonder
Talking over a glass of rum
Burning on the inside
With the knowledge of things to come
There's gambling out on the terrace
And midnight ramblin' on the lawn
As they lead toward temptation
With dreamland coming on
Dreamland, dreamland
Dreamland, dreamland
In a plane flying back to winter
In shoes full of tropic sand
A lady in a foreign flag
On the arm of her Marlboro Man
The hawk howls in New York City
Six foot drifts on Myrtle's lawn
As they push the recline buttons down
With dreamland coming on
Dreamland, dreamland
Dreamland, dreamland
La, La ...
African sand on the trade winds
And the sun on the Amazon
As they push the reline buttons down
With dreamland coming on
Dreamland, dreamland
Dreamland, dreamland
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There were some things by Joni M that escaped my notice as they or I went by because I was simply busy looking elsewhere or was not ready to investigate them. I was often later completely astonished by them when I was looking in the right place at the right time.
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Cynaera wrote:
My favorite, too, although her "Blue" album got played just as much on my Thorens turntable (way back in the '70's).
And you, Cynaera, were, and still are, my favorite blogger on this site!
I have a strong feeling that you did die happy, or at least in peace, as every post of yours on this site demonstrates how much of a music and life lover you were.
Joni has made me forget a lot of things that were so painful I never thought I'd be able to forget them. She's made me realize a lot of things I didn't know I knew. She, like Jackson Browne and Neil Young, has pulled me through some tough times, and has given me music to which I can rejoice.
Joni is ageless and timeless, and her music resonates, whether negatively or positively. Me? I just love her. If Bill would play the entire "Court And Spark" CD, I would die happy.
Joni is ageless and timeless, and her music resonates, whether negatively or positively. Me? I just love her. If Bill would play the entire "Court And Spark" CD, I would die happy.
My favorite, too, although her "Blue" album got played just as much on my Thorens turntable (way back in the '70's).
And you, Cynaera, were, and still are, my favorite blogger on this site!
I have a strong feeling that you did die happy, or at least in peace, as every post of yours on this site demonstrates how much of a music and life lover you were.
idiot_wind wrote:
Actually Jaco is playing the cowbells.
it be trippy
jaco on bass?
Actually Jaco is playing the cowbells.
it be trippy
jaco on bass?
jaco on bass?
What a fun song!
sfyi2001 wrote:
Songs on Radio Paradise:
Joni Mitchell - 49
Carly Simon - 0
'ECLECTIC' !
I wouldn't take anything away from Joni for that. But yes, as a singer songwriter who was honored with a Kennedy Center tribute it is a bit surprising she isn't represented on RP.
Songs on Radio Paradise:
Joni Mitchell - 49
Carly Simon - 0
'ECLECTIC' !
I wouldn't take anything away from Joni for that. But yes, as a singer songwriter who was honored with a Kennedy Center tribute it is a bit surprising she isn't represented on RP.
Songs on Radio Paradise:
Joni Mitchell - 49
Carly Simon - 0
'ECLECTIC' !
weedyjoe wrote:
Wow, I had forgotten Daktari. How did I forget Daktari?
Clarence is so upset his eyes have crossed
Wow, I had forgotten Daktari. How did I forget Daktari?
Clarence is so upset his eyes have crossed
On_The_Beach wrote:
To quote another RP member, "Your detailed and eloquent critique speaks volumes of your intellect.".
maybe he meant it the opposite way. As in "holy shit that was awesome"
To quote another RP member, "Your detailed and eloquent critique speaks volumes of your intellect.".
maybe he meant it the opposite way. As in "holy shit that was awesome"
timmus wrote:
Wow, I had forgotten Daktari. How did I forget Daktari?
Speed it up by 20% and you have the Daktari song, though the vocals might be a bit comical.
Wow, I had forgotten Daktari. How did I forget Daktari?
Grammarcop wrote:
Hey, Shaky. There's a quote by Chaka Khan in the Feb. 24, 2019, NY Times that I'd like to share with you:
"I'm working on a Joni Mitchell project right now, who's a great friend. I have her blessing. I'm doing my favorite songs of Joni's. Not her hits -- the songs that have kept me alive on tour. When I'm on the bus, I always put on Joni Mitchell. She would revive me in a big way -- the music, the things she said, the philosopher in her. She's my favorite writer, singer-songwriter..."
It's okay if you don't like her. Tom Petty doesn't speak to me at all. But I think if you look a little deeper you will find her appeal crosses boundaries and she is appreciated more widely than you think.
An addendum to my earlier comment...
From Adam Gopnik's piece on the newyorker.com's website on July 29, 2022, after Joni's recent appearance at the Newport Folk Festival:
"It was a cause for celebration and for cerebration, too. Some of the celebration lay in the truth that most of us never expected to see or hear her this way again; murmured word of her medical history during the past few years, particularly since a devastating aneurysm in 2015, had suggested that she might no longer be capable of performing. But still more of the collective feeling had to do with the extraordinarily significant place that her work, in retrospect, now occupies. Joni Mitchell’s accomplishments look, or rather sound, larger than those of almost anyone else of her time."
...
"It is easy to forget how original and daring her system of open tunings was in its day. ... Joni’s strange, original system of chording—the endless run of ringing, resonant tunings that make songs like “Chelsea Morning” ever fresh—now seems far more alive than all that show-off stuff, and still has young guitarists frowning as they study it, like violinists studying scores from Beethoven."
Hey, Shaky. There's a quote by Chaka Khan in the Feb. 24, 2019, NY Times that I'd like to share with you:
"I'm working on a Joni Mitchell project right now, who's a great friend. I have her blessing. I'm doing my favorite songs of Joni's. Not her hits -- the songs that have kept me alive on tour. When I'm on the bus, I always put on Joni Mitchell. She would revive me in a big way -- the music, the things she said, the philosopher in her. She's my favorite writer, singer-songwriter..."
It's okay if you don't like her. Tom Petty doesn't speak to me at all. But I think if you look a little deeper you will find her appeal crosses boundaries and she is appreciated more widely than you think.
An addendum to my earlier comment...
From Adam Gopnik's piece on the newyorker.com's website on July 29, 2022, after Joni's recent appearance at the Newport Folk Festival:
"It was a cause for celebration and for cerebration, too. Some of the celebration lay in the truth that most of us never expected to see or hear her this way again; murmured word of her medical history during the past few years, particularly since a devastating aneurysm in 2015, had suggested that she might no longer be capable of performing. But still more of the collective feeling had to do with the extraordinarily significant place that her work, in retrospect, now occupies. Joni Mitchell’s accomplishments look, or rather sound, larger than those of almost anyone else of her time."
...
"It is easy to forget how original and daring her system of open tunings was in its day. ... Joni’s strange, original system of chording—the endless run of ringing, resonant tunings that make songs like “Chelsea Morning” ever fresh—now seems far more alive than all that show-off stuff, and still has young guitarists frowning as they study it, like violinists studying scores from Beethoven."
Stetsonman wrote:
Your Nic Name? Eh?
fucking shit
Your Nic Name? Eh?
jp33442 wrote:
Your right this song is pure shit . . .
Well, if you can't spell a simple word like "you're", it's no surprise you don't get Joni.
Your right this song is pure shit . . .
Well, if you can't spell a simple word like "you're", it's no surprise you don't get Joni.
The whole album is a 10
Goddesslike!
Goddesslike!
I LOVE IT!! Thanx RP!
An amazingly gifted, original talent, writer and performer, ever-evolving and experimenting.
She cut a swath of influence and inspiration equaled by very few indeed.
She cut a swath of influence and inspiration equaled by very few indeed.
Not one of my favourites but it gets a 6 to offset 6 haters.
jp33442 wrote:
Your right this song is pure shit, and i like joni
I like her too, she's an awesome talent
Your right this song is pure shit, and i like joni
I like her too, she's an awesome talent
Speed it up by 20% and you have the Daktari song, though the vocals might be a bit comical.
robmerkeldesigns wrote:
Your right this song is pure shit, and i like joni
Ahh the late seventies, only a whole lot of coke could make you think this is music. It's experimental, it's innovative, she's trying to blend genres, blah blah blah... It's not a song, it's just some woman rambling about her vacation over a background track that doesn't even match her non-singing. Yay.
Your right this song is pure shit, and i like joni
"Tar baby"...just that lyric alone disqualifies from me ever enjoying this track.
Ahh the late seventies, only a whole lot of coke could make you think this is music. It's experimental, it's innovative, she's trying to blend genres, blah blah blah... It's not a song, it's just some woman rambling about her vacation over a background track that doesn't even match her non-singing. Yay.
Stetsonman wrote:
To quote another RP member, "Your detailed and eloquent critique speaks volumes of your intellect.".
fucking shit
To quote another RP member, "Your detailed and eloquent critique speaks volumes of your intellect.".
Imagine if RP had access to the tempo of tracks and adjusted emotes to moveto the beat
On a Zeppelin bootleg ,during Going To California, Plant cries JONI!
He and many others had a crush on her!
Quite understandable ; >
He and many others had a crush on her!
Quite understandable ; >
Not a bad song on this album!
fucking shit
DaidyBoy wrote:
There you go getting RP and FB mixed up again! RP is the one with the nice music, turn your speakers on!
Not impressed with the blackface story with this one. Or ever, for that matter.
There you go getting RP and FB mixed up again! RP is the one with the nice music, turn your speakers on!
ugh! It’s just NOT what I think about when I think of music.
yes, she’s talented, blah-blah-blah. But she’s annoying as hell.
thank you for your attention.
Can I hear some Clapton now? Please?
yes, she’s talented, blah-blah-blah. But she’s annoying as hell.
thank you for your attention.
Can I hear some Clapton now? Please?
Zep wrote:
To annoy you.
Scores a perfect 10 for this purpose.
To annoy you.
Scores a perfect 10 for this purpose.
nutrod42 wrote:
To annoy you.
Why?
To annoy you.
Grammarcop wrote:
Hey, Shaky. There's a quote by Chaka Khan in the Feb. 24, 2019, NY Times that I'd like to share with you:
"I'm working on a Joni Mitchell project right now, who's a great friend. I have her blessing. I'm doing my favorite songs of Joni's. Not her hits -- the songs that have kept me alive on tour. When I'm on the bus, I always put on Joni Mitchell. She would revive me in a big way -- the music, the things she said, the philosopher in her. She's my favorite writer, singer-songwriter..."
It's okay if you don't like her. Tom Petty doesn't speak to me at all. But I think if you look a little deeper you will find her appeal crosses boundaries and she is appreciated more widely than you think.
If referring to a fellow artist in a song lyric, and covering their songs, is an expression of admiration then Prince was a Joni Mitchell fan, too. From "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker":
"Mind if I turn on the radio?"
"Oh, my favorite song" she said
And it was Joni singing "Help me I think I'm falling"
Hey, Shaky. There's a quote by Chaka Khan in the Feb. 24, 2019, NY Times that I'd like to share with you:
"I'm working on a Joni Mitchell project right now, who's a great friend. I have her blessing. I'm doing my favorite songs of Joni's. Not her hits -- the songs that have kept me alive on tour. When I'm on the bus, I always put on Joni Mitchell. She would revive me in a big way -- the music, the things she said, the philosopher in her. She's my favorite writer, singer-songwriter..."
It's okay if you don't like her. Tom Petty doesn't speak to me at all. But I think if you look a little deeper you will find her appeal crosses boundaries and she is appreciated more widely than you think.
If referring to a fellow artist in a song lyric, and covering their songs, is an expression of admiration then Prince was a Joni Mitchell fan, too. From "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker":
"Mind if I turn on the radio?"
"Oh, my favorite song" she said
And it was Joni singing "Help me I think I'm falling"
I don't think I enjoy JM very much but she's always stimulating, can't say she's boring!
DaidyBoy wrote:
I certainly don't listen to RP for political controversy, let alone in the comments section. Too much of that already. Keep it to yourself.
Not impressed with the blackface story with this one. Or ever, for that matter.
I certainly don't listen to RP for political controversy, let alone in the comments section. Too much of that already. Keep it to yourself.
I seriously do not understand the ratings on RP sometimes. RP made me a Joni fan, all these years later. This song is great, and a 5.4 rating?
[[...will not make a comment about Radiohead fans here...won't do it...]]
[[...will not make a comment about Radiohead fans here...won't do it...]]
Man, I put new tubes in the amp and this song just sparkles, nicely produced
jukes1 wrote:
This fusion just doesn’t work for me. It’s almost like she’s singing in an incompatible time signature relative to the music.
maybe that's the point... maybe it's a reckless thing to do; or maybe it's the sound track to a dream. Cynaera wrote:
Cynaera, I'm looking forward to conversations with you in lands unknown.
I read a few comments about this song and Ms. Mitchell in general, and I'll just say that there are a few songs of hers that I don't listen to because I don't understand them. Mostly, though, I listen because I know there's something that I'm supposed to understand, and if I don't get it right away, I listen until I do get it, and I feel better, more strong, more smart, more of a human being as a result.
It's easy to write off her music. She doesn't fit into a particular genre or groove. She doesn't re-bend to fit the form. Rather, she bends the form to fit.
I'm sorry if people have a problem with that, but I love her music - always have, always will. Sometimes, it's a struggle to understand her motive or her message, but I love the puzzle. Such is the Joni that those who've followed her already know and embrace.
To those who are hearing her work for the first time, welcome to the wild. Forget everything you ever learned about music as you know it - you're about to walk into a realm where all the rules disappear and everything is possible. To those who hate Ms. Mitchell's music part and parcel, I nod my head and watch you walk away, with no love lost.
It's easy to write off her music. She doesn't fit into a particular genre or groove. She doesn't re-bend to fit the form. Rather, she bends the form to fit.
I'm sorry if people have a problem with that, but I love her music - always have, always will. Sometimes, it's a struggle to understand her motive or her message, but I love the puzzle. Such is the Joni that those who've followed her already know and embrace.
To those who are hearing her work for the first time, welcome to the wild. Forget everything you ever learned about music as you know it - you're about to walk into a realm where all the rules disappear and everything is possible. To those who hate Ms. Mitchell's music part and parcel, I nod my head and watch you walk away, with no love lost.
Cynaera, I'm looking forward to conversations with you in lands unknown.
Cynaera wrote:
Both wisdom and grace. Thank you once again Cynaera (Ann Stepp Lucas).
I read a few comments about this song and Ms. Mitchell in general, and I'll just say that there are a few songs of hers that I don't listen to because I don't understand them. Mostly, though, I listen because I know there's something that I'm supposed to understand, and if I don't get it right away, I listen until I do get it, and I feel better, more strong, more smart, more of a human being as a result.
It's easy to write off her music. She doesn't fit into a particular genre or groove. She doesn't re-bend to fit the form. Rather, she bends the form to fit.
I'm sorry if people have a problem with that, but I love her music - always have, always will. Sometimes, it's a struggle to understand her motive or her message, but I love the puzzle. Such is the Joni that those who've followed her already know and embrace.
To those who are hearing her work for the first time, welcome to the wild. Forget everything you ever learned about music as you know it - you're about to walk into a realm where all the rules disappear and everything is possible. To those who hate Ms. Mitchell's music part and parcel, I nod my head and watch you walk away, with no love lost.
It's easy to write off her music. She doesn't fit into a particular genre or groove. She doesn't re-bend to fit the form. Rather, she bends the form to fit.
I'm sorry if people have a problem with that, but I love her music - always have, always will. Sometimes, it's a struggle to understand her motive or her message, but I love the puzzle. Such is the Joni that those who've followed her already know and embrace.
To those who are hearing her work for the first time, welcome to the wild. Forget everything you ever learned about music as you know it - you're about to walk into a realm where all the rules disappear and everything is possible. To those who hate Ms. Mitchell's music part and parcel, I nod my head and watch you walk away, with no love lost.
Both wisdom and grace. Thank you once again Cynaera (Ann Stepp Lucas).
Love this song! Doesn't hurt that it reminds me of great barbecue.
And WTF does this have to do with music on RP? Might need some #Britsplaining on this one...
DaidyBoy wrote:
DaidyBoy wrote:
Not impressed with the blackface story with this one. Or ever, for that matter.
Not impressed with the blackface story with this one. Or ever, for that matter.
Dstiven wrote:
I love the imagery.
I'm usually a big fan of Joni's, but this song doesn't do it for me. It really gets on my nerves. And for some reason PSD doesn't work 
I love the imagery.
After the sheer annoyance of listening to her quavering voice wears off, one can begin to appreciate that Joni Mitchell's music does in fact serve a purpose, specifically to make all other music better by comparison.
I can't imagine another radio station playing this song. One big thing I love about RP!
It's not amongst my favorite joni songs but it's certainly more quality than a 5ish rating.
It's not amongst my favorite joni songs but it's certainly more quality than a 5ish rating.
Can't help but think Weather Report's "Teen Town" from Heavy Weather would be the perfect follow-up to this tune… really show off those Pastorius chops.
Joni Mitchell and Tom Waits are nails on a chalkboard to my ears. Dylan only slightly better. Please make it go away or find some way to do PSD in iTunes.
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Personally, can’t stand any of them... especially this one....
It amuses me that the only Joni songs I have rated above a 2 or 3 are the ones everyone else hates. 
Personally, can’t stand any of them... especially this one....
This is such a great track from Joni. When I first became familiar with the song it was a cover by Roger McGuinn on the album "Cardiff Rose". Bill,it would be awesome to hear them back to back sometime. Just sayin'. 
Grammarcop wrote:
Hey, Shaky. There's a quote by Chaka Khan in the Feb. 24, 2019, NY Times that I'd like to share with you:
"I'm working on a Joni Mitchell project right now, who's a great friend. I have her blessing. I'm doing my favorite songs of Joni's. Not her hits -- the songs that have kept me alive on tour. When I'm on the bus, I always put on Joni Mitchell. She would revive me in a big way -- the music, the things she said, the philosopher in her. She's my favorite writer, singer-songwriter..."
It's okay if you don't like her. Tom Petty doesn't speak to me at all. But I think if you look a little deeper you will find her appeal crosses boundaries and she is appreciated more widely than you think.
Prince too:
Prince’s love for Mitchell was hardly a secret. The back cover of 1981’s Controversy contains a newspaper headline that reads “★ Joni ★” and the Time’s third album, Ice Cream Castle, was named after a lyric from her “Both Sides Now.” In 1985, he told Rolling Stone that the “last album I loved all the way through was [her] The Hissing of Summer Lawns.” Two years later, Sign O’ the Times’ “The Ballad of Dorothy Parker” finds the narrator and the titular character listening to Mitchell’s hit “Help Me” on the radio (the line could also be a sly acknowledgement of another of her songs, “You Turn Me On, I’m a Radio”).
Hey, Shaky. There's a quote by Chaka Khan in the Feb. 24, 2019, NY Times that I'd like to share with you:
"I'm working on a Joni Mitchell project right now, who's a great friend. I have her blessing. I'm doing my favorite songs of Joni's. Not her hits -- the songs that have kept me alive on tour. When I'm on the bus, I always put on Joni Mitchell. She would revive me in a big way -- the music, the things she said, the philosopher in her. She's my favorite writer, singer-songwriter..."
It's okay if you don't like her. Tom Petty doesn't speak to me at all. But I think if you look a little deeper you will find her appeal crosses boundaries and she is appreciated more widely than you think.
Prince too:
Prince’s love for Mitchell was hardly a secret. The back cover of 1981’s Controversy contains a newspaper headline that reads “★ Joni ★” and the Time’s third album, Ice Cream Castle, was named after a lyric from her “Both Sides Now.” In 1985, he told Rolling Stone that the “last album I loved all the way through was [her] The Hissing of Summer Lawns.” Two years later, Sign O’ the Times’ “The Ballad of Dorothy Parker” finds the narrator and the titular character listening to Mitchell’s hit “Help Me” on the radio (the line could also be a sly acknowledgement of another of her songs, “You Turn Me On, I’m a Radio”).
That's Chakha Khan singing with Joni... another of her big fans.
I was at a 1999 Joni tribute in Central Park when Chakha sang one of my favorites, "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow"
I was at a 1999 Joni tribute in Central Park when Chakha sang one of my favorites, "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow"
I adore Joni and this is a fabulous album. That said, this track is not one of my faves; give me Jaco on the title track and I'll give it a 10. This at best an interesting experiment (and she's never shied from those).
This fusion just doesn’t work for me. It’s almost like she’s singing in an incompatible time signature relative to the music.
shakylegs wrote:
Hey, Shaky. There's a quote by Chaka Khan in the Feb. 24, 2019, NY Times that I'd like to share with you:
"I'm working on a Joni Mitchell project right now, who's a great friend. I have her blessing. I'm doing my favorite songs of Joni's. Not her hits -- the songs that have kept me alive on tour. When I'm on the bus, I always put on Joni Mitchell. She would revive me in a big way -- the music, the things she said, the philosopher in her. She's my favorite writer, singer-songwriter..."
It's okay if you don't like her. Tom Petty doesn't speak to me at all. But I think if you look a little deeper you will find her appeal crosses boundaries and she is appreciated more widely than you think.
Lily-white-ass middle-class middle-aged Canadian woman trying to get down with the homeboys. It doesn't work.
Hey, Shaky. There's a quote by Chaka Khan in the Feb. 24, 2019, NY Times that I'd like to share with you:
"I'm working on a Joni Mitchell project right now, who's a great friend. I have her blessing. I'm doing my favorite songs of Joni's. Not her hits -- the songs that have kept me alive on tour. When I'm on the bus, I always put on Joni Mitchell. She would revive me in a big way -- the music, the things she said, the philosopher in her. She's my favorite writer, singer-songwriter..."
It's okay if you don't like her. Tom Petty doesn't speak to me at all. But I think if you look a little deeper you will find her appeal crosses boundaries and she is appreciated more widely than you think.
jtherieau wrote:
Sounds like a personal problem to me! LOL sorry had to say it. ;-)
Although I think you're probably right - better J smoking music than Love making for sure. Long Live RP!! (and I'm this close to going 9 → 10 on this one)
I love Joni, I always have, but her songs are the WORST to make love to. For some reason, everything goes dead in the water in a few seconds.
Sounds like a personal problem to me! LOL sorry had to say it. ;-)
Although I think you're probably right - better J smoking music than Love making for sure. Long Live RP!! (and I'm this close to going 9 → 10 on this one)
It amuses me that the only Joni songs I have rated above a 2 or 3 are the ones everyone else hates.
ckcotton wrote:
I’m sure I’d be back before this is 1/2 over...
Keep walking.
I’m sure I’d be back before this is 1/2 over...
Keep walking.
gmichaelt wrote:
Take a walk. Everyone benefits.
I’m sure I’d be back before this is 1/2 over...
Take a walk. Everyone benefits.
I’m sure I’d be back before this is 1/2 over...
when will it end?.........
What a rythm!!!! I was busy to something with much concentration, and suddenly surprised by being dancing on my chair while wrinting on my computer. Love it
I'm usually a big fan of Joni's, but this song doesn't do it for me. It really gets on my nerves. And for some reason PSD doesn't work
Horrible!
dwhayslett wrote:
Exactly.
Doncha just love the childish "If I don't like it then nobody gets to hear it" argument?
There are easier, better solutions for that than trying to screw it up for the rest of us.
Exactly.
Doncha just love the childish "If I don't like it then nobody gets to hear it" argument?
ckcotton wrote:
Can't use PSD on streaming devices without web interface... the hope is that somehow the comments will convince a Bill to dump these turds from the playlists.
Im pretty sure it wont matter though. Been trying to get Tori Amos out of rotation for 10 years....
There are easier, better solutions for that than trying to screw it up for the rest of us.
Can't use PSD on streaming devices without web interface... the hope is that somehow the comments will convince a Bill to dump these turds from the playlists.
Im pretty sure it wont matter though. Been trying to get Tori Amos out of rotation for 10 years....
There are easier, better solutions for that than trying to screw it up for the rest of us.
Anything by Joni gets a 10 from me!
jtherieau wrote:
You may be fixing on the aural. Stop doing that. Simple. Doesn't take a rocket doctor.
I love Joni, I always have, but her songs are the WORST to make love to. For some reason, everything goes dead in the water in a few seconds.
You may be fixing on the aural. Stop doing that. Simple. Doesn't take a rocket doctor.
ckcotton wrote:
Can't use PSD on streaming devices without web interface... the hope is that somehow the comments will convince a Bill to dump these turds from the playlists.
Im pretty sure it wont matter though. Been trying to get Tori Amos out of rotation for 10 years....
Take a walk. Everyone benefits.
Can't use PSD on streaming devices without web interface... the hope is that somehow the comments will convince a Bill to dump these turds from the playlists.
Im pretty sure it wont matter though. Been trying to get Tori Amos out of rotation for 10 years....
Take a walk. Everyone benefits.
konakid wrote:
I totally agree, there is way too much negativity at play on these comment boards, Like Mama always says"If you haven't got anything good to say, don't say anything" And the PSD button is there for a reason.
Can't use PSD on streaming devices without web interface... the hope is that somehow the comments will convince a Bill to dump these turds from the playlists.
Im pretty sure it wont matter though. Been trying to get Tori Amos out of rotation for 10 years....
I totally agree, there is way too much negativity at play on these comment boards, Like Mama always says"If you haven't got anything good to say, don't say anything" And the PSD button is there for a reason.
Can't use PSD on streaming devices without web interface... the hope is that somehow the comments will convince a Bill to dump these turds from the playlists.
Im pretty sure it wont matter though. Been trying to get Tori Amos out of rotation for 10 years....
Why all the Joni Mitchell? Give her a rest.
I love Joni, I always have, but her songs are the WORST to make love to. For some reason, everything goes dead in the water in a few seconds.
Why?
On_The_Beach wrote:
As opposed to "appropriating" the blues (also Africans, just enslaved ones), which pretty much every rock band in history did?
Yes, as opposed. The appropriation here is a form of minstrelsy whereas the blues appropriations were more adaptive and created Rock and Roll by mixing in other genres.
As opposed to "appropriating" the blues (also Africans, just enslaved ones), which pretty much every rock band in history did?
Yes, as opposed. The appropriation here is a form of minstrelsy whereas the blues appropriations were more adaptive and created Rock and Roll by mixing in other genres.
Did someone forget to say 'STOP'?
thewiseking wrote:
As opposed to "appropriating" the blues (also Africans, just enslaved ones), which pretty much every rock band in history did?
Never dug these African appropriations, whether by Joni, Paul Simon or whomever was doing the appropriating.
As opposed to "appropriating" the blues (also Africans, just enslaved ones), which pretty much every rock band in history did?
Never dug these African appropriations, whether by Joni, Paul Simon or whomever was doing the appropriating.
Read Joni Mitchel-In Her Own Words. 3 different interviews early mid and late career by a friend Malka Marom
Joni is on a very different creative level to most, she bares her soul in her songs. Great reading and they put in some of her lyrics and you realize their relevance and beauty.
Joni is on a very different creative level to most, she bares her soul in her songs. Great reading and they put in some of her lyrics and you realize their relevance and beauty.
Love this song! Love Joni! What a diverse artist she is. Thanks for reminding me of that quite often Bill and Rebecca! BTW if you haven't heard Rodger Mcgwinn's cover of this song I highly suggest checking it out. Happy 4/20/17 everybody!
Dig it! Thanks for the insight on the musicians Bill. LOVE Jaco!
hayduke2 wrote:
fedtho wrote:
lemmoth wrote:
Great music and beautiful people : )
Amen to all who love Joni. In the here and now and in the beyond. Amen I say.
Posted: Feb 24, 2017 - 09:15
fedtho wrote:
My luck is I have a brother 9 years older than me; he had Joni's double live album "Shadows and light", with Jaco Pastorius, Michael Brecker, Don Alias, Pat Metheny.... the music just poured right into me, I was at home in there right away.
Their rendition of "Dreamland" is absolutely gorgeous. That's the first version I heard, so I can't help favoring it over the studio original - but the latter is very rich as well.
I will just say I'm convinced Joni Mitchell is an honest artist in that she's actually trying to express something she feels the need to express. She's not posing, she's not trying to sound like anyone. So I don't think the hate displayed here is the least bit founded.
Thanks to hayduke2 for reposting lemmoth's repost of cynaera's great post
Their rendition of "Dreamland" is absolutely gorgeous. That's the first version I heard, so I can't help favoring it over the studio original - but the latter is very rich as well.
I will just say I'm convinced Joni Mitchell is an honest artist in that she's actually trying to express something she feels the need to express. She's not posing, she's not trying to sound like anyone. So I don't think the hate displayed here is the least bit founded.
Thanks to hayduke2 for reposting lemmoth's repost of cynaera's great post
lemmoth wrote:
Wise words from our dear departed friend:
Cynaera wrote:
Cynaera wrote:
I read a few comments about this song and Ms. Mitchell in general, and I'll just say that there are a few songs of hers that I don't listen to because I don't understand them. Mostly, though, I listen because I know there's something that I'm supposed to understand, and if I don't get it right away, I listen until I do get it, and I feel better, more strong, more smart, more of a human being as a result.
It's easy to write off her music. She doesn't fit into a particular genre or groove. She doesn't re-bend to fit the form. Rather, she bends the form to fit.
I'm sorry if people have a problem with that, but I love her music - always have, always will. Sometimes, it's a struggle to understand her motive or her message, but I love the puzzle. Such is the Joni that those who've followed her already know and embrace.
To those who are hearing her work for the first time, welcome to the wild. Forget everything you ever learned about music as you know it - you're about to walk into a realm where all the rules disappear and everything is possible. To those who hate Ms. Mitchell's music part and parcel, I nod my head and watch you walk away, with no love lost.
It's easy to write off her music. She doesn't fit into a particular genre or groove. She doesn't re-bend to fit the form. Rather, she bends the form to fit.
I'm sorry if people have a problem with that, but I love her music - always have, always will. Sometimes, it's a struggle to understand her motive or her message, but I love the puzzle. Such is the Joni that those who've followed her already know and embrace.
To those who are hearing her work for the first time, welcome to the wild. Forget everything you ever learned about music as you know it - you're about to walk into a realm where all the rules disappear and everything is possible. To those who hate Ms. Mitchell's music part and parcel, I nod my head and watch you walk away, with no love lost.
Great music and beautiful people : )
fedtho wrote:
lemmoth wrote:
Great music and beautiful people : )
My luck is I have a brother 9 years older than me; he had Joni's double live album "Shadows and light", with Jaco Pastorius, Michael Brecker, Don Alias, Pat Metheny.... the music just poured right into me, I was at home in there right away.
Their rendition of "Dreamland" is absolutely gorgeous. That's the first version I heard, so I can't help favoring it over the studio original - but the latter is very rich as well.
I will just say I'm convinced Joni Mitchell is an honest artist in that she's actually trying to express something she feels the need to express. She's not posing, she's not trying to sound like anyone. So I don't think the hate displayed here is the least bit founded.
Thanks to hayduke2 for reposting lemmoth's repost of cynaera's great post
Their rendition of "Dreamland" is absolutely gorgeous. That's the first version I heard, so I can't help favoring it over the studio original - but the latter is very rich as well.
I will just say I'm convinced Joni Mitchell is an honest artist in that she's actually trying to express something she feels the need to express. She's not posing, she's not trying to sound like anyone. So I don't think the hate displayed here is the least bit founded.
Thanks to hayduke2 for reposting lemmoth's repost of cynaera's great post
lemmoth wrote:
Wise words from our dear departed friend:
Cynaera wrote:
Cynaera wrote:
I read a few comments about this song and Ms. Mitchell in general, and I'll just say that there are a few songs of hers that I don't listen to because I don't understand them. Mostly, though, I listen because I know there's something that I'm supposed to understand, and if I don't get it right away, I listen until I do get it, and I feel better, more strong, more smart, more of a human being as a result.
It's easy to write off her music. She doesn't fit into a particular genre or groove. She doesn't re-bend to fit the form. Rather, she bends the form to fit.
I'm sorry if people have a problem with that, but I love her music - always have, always will. Sometimes, it's a struggle to understand her motive or her message, but I love the puzzle. Such is the Joni that those who've followed her already know and embrace.
To those who are hearing her work for the first time, welcome to the wild. Forget everything you ever learned about music as you know it - you're about to walk into a realm where all the rules disappear and everything is possible. To those who hate Ms. Mitchell's music part and parcel, I nod my head and watch you walk away, with no love lost.
It's easy to write off her music. She doesn't fit into a particular genre or groove. She doesn't re-bend to fit the form. Rather, she bends the form to fit.
I'm sorry if people have a problem with that, but I love her music - always have, always will. Sometimes, it's a struggle to understand her motive or her message, but I love the puzzle. Such is the Joni that those who've followed her already know and embrace.
To those who are hearing her work for the first time, welcome to the wild. Forget everything you ever learned about music as you know it - you're about to walk into a realm where all the rules disappear and everything is possible. To those who hate Ms. Mitchell's music part and parcel, I nod my head and watch you walk away, with no love lost.
Great music and beautiful people : )
shakylegs wrote:
That lily-white-ass Canadian woman lived in Detroit's notorious Cass Corridor from 1965-1967. It was a crime-ridden slum with a thriving art and music scene and lots of Bohemian excesses. I suspect that white Canadian woman learned a thing or two about music and life from the people you so quaintly call homeboys.
It took serious balls to move to the Cass Corridor in 1965. It was two years before the Detroit riot of 1967, and the rage was already at a boiling point in the African-American community. I have a little experience in the corridor. Take my word for it.
Lily-white-ass middle-class middle-aged Canadian woman trying to get down with the homeboys. It doesn't work.
That lily-white-ass Canadian woman lived in Detroit's notorious Cass Corridor from 1965-1967. It was a crime-ridden slum with a thriving art and music scene and lots of Bohemian excesses. I suspect that white Canadian woman learned a thing or two about music and life from the people you so quaintly call homeboys.
It took serious balls to move to the Cass Corridor in 1965. It was two years before the Detroit riot of 1967, and the rage was already at a boiling point in the African-American community. I have a little experience in the corridor. Take my word for it.
dewhead wrote:
By itself, maybe it's not enjoyable, but I love that Don Juan album and this is part of it, so I think of it in that context.
I logged on so I could rate this song a 1. After logging on I discovered I had already previously rated it a 1. I wish I could rate it a -10. It's just awful and seems to go on forever. Sucko-barfo indeeed!
By itself, maybe it's not enjoyable, but I love that Don Juan album and this is part of it, so I think of it in that context.
Love Joni. She's the real deal, although she may not be for everyone.
Taking skill down the path of vulnerability, risk, innovation. Joni is an artist through and through.
I concur.
dewhead wrote:
dewhead wrote:
I logged on so I could rate this song a 1. After logging on I discovered I had already previously rated it a 1. I wish I could rate it a -10. It's just awful and seems to go on forever. Sucko-barfo indeeed!
I logged on so I could rate this song a 1. After logging on I discovered I had already previously rated it a 1. I wish I could rate it a -10. It's just awful and seems to go on forever. Sucko-barfo indeeed!
shakylegs wrote:
Not only are you wrong but you're not showing much class.
Lily-white-ass middle-class middle-aged Canadian woman trying to get down with the homeboys. It doesn't work.
Not only are you wrong but you're not showing much class.
shakylegs wrote:
1977. Not sure what the homeboys were up to then.
Lily-white-ass middle-class middle-aged Canadian woman trying to get down with the homeboys. It doesn't work.
1977. Not sure what the homeboys were up to then.
Lily-white-ass middle-class middle-aged Canadian woman trying to get down with the homeboys. It doesn't work.
Best of Joni. I give it a 1. Not a fan, sorry.
Every time I hear this I wonder when the intro is going to end and the song proper start playing. You'd think I'd be wiser by now.
Derick210 wrote:
Good call. She totally owes Joni a debt.
Does anyone know tUnE-yArDs? This seems like something that artist heard and said - today's audience could totally dig this tyPE of erratic, beat-driven sound.
Good call. She totally owes Joni a debt.
fedtho wrote:
AND LYLE MAYS dammit. I don't know who he pissed off to be excluded every time someone mentions that album, but folks should know of his work. Brilliant stuff with Metheney - especially their "As Falls Wichita..." album. But his solo work and his TED performance are all mandatory.
My luck is I have a brother 9 years older than me; he had Joni's double live album "Shadows and light", with Jaco Pastorius, Michael Brecker, Don Alias, Pat Metheny.... the music just poured right into me, I was at home in there right away.
AND LYLE MAYS dammit. I don't know who he pissed off to be excluded every time someone mentions that album, but folks should know of his work. Brilliant stuff with Metheney - especially their "As Falls Wichita..." album. But his solo work and his TED performance are all mandatory.
My luck is I have a brother 9 years older than me; he had Joni's double live album "Shadows and light", with Jaco Pastorius, Michael Brecker, Don Alias, Pat Metheny.... the music just poured right into me, I was at home in there right away.
Their rendition of "Dreamland" is absolutely gorgeous. That's the first version I heard, so I can't help favoring it over the studio original - but the latter is very rich as well.
I will just say I'm convinced Joni Mitchell is an honest artist in that she's actually trying to express something she feels the need to express. She's not posing, she's not trying to sound like anyone. So I don't think the hate displayed here is the least bit founded.
Thanks to hayduke2 for reposting lemmoth's repost of cynaera's great post
Their rendition of "Dreamland" is absolutely gorgeous. That's the first version I heard, so I can't help favoring it over the studio original - but the latter is very rich as well.
I will just say I'm convinced Joni Mitchell is an honest artist in that she's actually trying to express something she feels the need to express. She's not posing, she's not trying to sound like anyone. So I don't think the hate displayed here is the least bit founded.
Thanks to hayduke2 for reposting lemmoth's repost of cynaera's great post
lemmoth wrote:
great piece of music : )
Wise words from our dear departed friend:
Cynaera wrote:
Cynaera wrote:
I read a few comments about this song and Ms. Mitchell in general, and I'll just say that there are a few songs of hers that I don't listen to because I don't understand them. Mostly, though, I listen because I know there's something that I'm supposed to understand, and if I don't get it right away, I listen until I do get it, and I feel better, more strong, more smart, more of a human being as a result.
It's easy to write off her music. She doesn't fit into a particular genre or groove. She doesn't re-bend to fit the form. Rather, she bends the form to fit.
I'm sorry if people have a problem with that, but I love her music - always have, always will. Sometimes, it's a struggle to understand her motive or her message, but I love the puzzle. Such is the Joni that those who've followed her already know and embrace.
To those who are hearing her work for the first time, welcome to the wild. Forget everything you ever learned about music as you know it - you're about to walk into a realm where all the rules disappear and everything is possible. To those who hate Ms. Mitchell's music part and parcel, I nod my head and watch you walk away, with no love lost.
It's easy to write off her music. She doesn't fit into a particular genre or groove. She doesn't re-bend to fit the form. Rather, she bends the form to fit.
I'm sorry if people have a problem with that, but I love her music - always have, always will. Sometimes, it's a struggle to understand her motive or her message, but I love the puzzle. Such is the Joni that those who've followed her already know and embrace.
To those who are hearing her work for the first time, welcome to the wild. Forget everything you ever learned about music as you know it - you're about to walk into a realm where all the rules disappear and everything is possible. To those who hate Ms. Mitchell's music part and parcel, I nod my head and watch you walk away, with no love lost.
great piece of music : )
FlatCat wrote:Yep,Both. Dream on Dreamland.
Is the chorus saying "Dream Land" or "Dream on"?
Jaco played bass on this great album. He did for bass what The Beatles did for song writing.
lososs wrote:
May be a connection between this low rating and the high ratings some of the country muzak gets...
aspicer wrote:
indeed!
Digging it - surprised by the low rating.
indeed!May be a connection between this low rating and the high ratings some of the country muzak gets...
sirtezza wrote:
I totally agree, there is way too much negativity at play on these comment boards, Like Mama always says"If you haven't got anything good to say, don't say anything" And the PSD button is there for a reason.
The Joni bashing here is bewildering/depressing. is it fashionable somewhere?
If it's not to your taste just hit the PSD button and move on.
Some of the comments are just simple nastiness.
If it's not to your taste just hit the PSD button and move on.
Some of the comments are just simple nastiness.
I totally agree, there is way too much negativity at play on these comment boards, Like Mama always says"If you haven't got anything good to say, don't say anything" And the PSD button is there for a reason.
dig Chaka Khan's bg vox
The Joni bashing here is bewildering/depressing. is it fashionable somewhere?
If it's not to your taste just hit the PSD button and move on.
Some of the comments are just simple nastiness.
If it's not to your taste just hit the PSD button and move on.
Some of the comments are just simple nastiness.
More like Nightmare Land
2 ->1 geez this is just horrible
Got to hand it to Joni for consistency: she doesn't improve with age.
I agree wholeheartedly. Never heard this before, and don't know what to make of it. Methinks I need a few more listens to fully make up my mind.
milleronic wrote:
milleronic wrote:
Wow. Don't know if I love this or hate this. Anyway, RP pulls through in playing something I've never heard before.
The station enjoys a pretty user friendly GUI.
Need an auto 'PSD' for anytime Joni Mitchell is played.
ShoePuke wrote:
And Joni dressed like a black man on the album cover. Sounds like she's gotten your attention as planned.
Me, I love this album.
I am a bit shocked by the use of 'tarbaby' and other slurs...
And Joni dressed like a black man on the album cover. Sounds like she's gotten your attention as planned.
Me, I love this album.
Does anyone know tUnE-yArDs? This seems like something that artist heard and said - today's audience could totally dig this tyPE of erratic, beat-driven sound.
I love particularly the percussions on this song!!!!! 
Is the chorus saying "Dream Land" or "Dream on"?
Wow. Don't know if I love this or hate this. Anyway, RP pulls through in playing something I've never heard before.
aspicer wrote:
indeed!
Digging it - surprised by the low rating.
indeed!I am a bit shocked by the use of 'tarbaby' and other slurs...
Digging it - surprised by the low rating.
Nice!