Pink Floyd — Welcome To The Machine
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Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
Where have you been? It's all right we know where you've been.
You've been in the pipeline, filling in time,
Provided with toys and 'Scouting for Boys'.
You bought a guitar to punish your ma.
You didn't like school, and you know you're nobody's fool,
So welcome to the machine.
Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
What did you dream? It's alright we told you what to dream.
You dreamed of a big star, he played a mean guitar,
He always ate in the Steak Bar. He loved to drive in his Jaguar.
So welcome to the machine.
Where have you been? It's all right we know where you've been.
You've been in the pipeline, filling in time,
Provided with toys and 'Scouting for Boys'.
You bought a guitar to punish your ma.
You didn't like school, and you know you're nobody's fool,
So welcome to the machine.
Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
What did you dream? It's alright we told you what to dream.
You dreamed of a big star, he played a mean guitar,
He always ate in the Steak Bar. He loved to drive in his Jaguar.
So welcome to the machine.
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This album is the 2nd best album after Dark Side of the Moon. I always considered it sides 3 & 4.
I like Pink Floyd so much better than Bud Lite.
10->11
ElCamoteLoco wrote:
As the joke has it, Baden-Powell's follow-up book was called Cruising for Trade.
Twisted, but strangely humorous.
As the joke has it, Baden-Powell's follow-up book was called Cruising for Trade.
Twisted, but strangely humorous.
vandal wrote:
Yes, that's a major problem in many a song comments section. First there is a troll posting something inane, then someone quotes it with a witty remark, the witty remark gets upvoted, also sending the quoted dumb original statement to the top of the page for everyone to read. In the end, this is sort of a victory for the troll.
When will you people learn not to feed the fucking troll?
Sweet zombie jesus quit reposting his pathetic diatribes.
Yes, that's a major problem in many a song comments section. First there is a troll posting something inane, then someone quotes it with a witty remark, the witty remark gets upvoted, also sending the quoted dumb original statement to the top of the page for everyone to read. In the end, this is sort of a victory for the troll.
wonderunit wrote:
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Puerile nonsense.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Puerile nonsense.
RP named "Godlike" the 10 points rate for songs like this one.
Curly_Stuff wrote:
Get some better speakers, or headphones.
There are a few bands that when I hear them, I just think of top hit radio songs, I don't really hear it I just hear a song that has played a billion times and I wait for it to be over. Sorry. I watched it live once on youtube and was impressed...had to let it in, see it in a different way. But I still don't hear Floyd. It gets played too much for me...but I love RP so am not complaining.
Get some better speakers, or headphones.
Amazing 
SeriousLee wrote:
"I'm a big Pink Floyd fan, but..."
There is no 'but'. Either you're a big PF fan or you're not.
Coloradojohn's comment lays it out perfectly.
"I'm a big Pink Floyd fan, but..."
There is no 'but'. Either you're a big PF fan or you're not.
Coloradojohn's comment lays it out perfectly.
fredriley wrote:
As the joke has it, Baden-Powell's follow-up book was called Cruising for Trade.
Until I eventually read the lyrics, I always wondered if this song was a bit pervy: "provided with toys and scouting for boys". Hmm. Fine song, though, and classic album.
As the joke has it, Baden-Powell's follow-up book was called Cruising for Trade.
Montreal_Mort wrote:
A flaming Trump who just crawled out of a dumpster fire....
My fav PF album . Never noticed this before, but the album cover, guy on the right - sorta looks like Trump. Well, ain’t that ironic?!!
A flaming Trump who just crawled out of a dumpster fire....
My fav PF album .
Never noticed this before, but the album cover, guy on the right - sorta looks like Trump. Well, ain’t that ironic?!!
"Karma Police," right into "Welcome to the Machine."
Well played, RP. Well played.
Well played, RP. Well played.
vandal wrote:
Hey vandal,
I gotta remember your line of : " Sweet zombie jesus quit reposting his pathetic diatribes."
When will you people learn not to feed the fucking troll?
Sweet zombie jesus quit reposting his pathetic diatribes.
Hey vandal,
I gotta remember your line of : " Sweet zombie jesus quit reposting his pathetic diatribes."
sergioso wrote:
I first heard this album at my dealer's flat on his very good quality headphones - I was somewhat stoned out of my gourd and my tiny mind was blown. Nearly fifty years later it's still unsurpassed. An automatic 10.
Around this album was released., I somoked my first joint and while listening to it I was liying on the carpet of a good friend dad's studio (an importan lawyer) wathcing the white celing came alive. I may forget many important things in my life. But never that evening. En paz descanse mi querido Pablo.
I first heard this album at my dealer's flat on his very good quality headphones - I was somewhat stoned out of my gourd and my tiny mind was blown. Nearly fifty years later it's still unsurpassed. An automatic 10.
When will you people learn not to feed the fucking troll?
Sweet zombie jesus quit reposting his pathetic diatribes.
Sweet zombie jesus quit reposting his pathetic diatribes.
coloradojohn wrote:
Sid Barret is usually treated as a side show or cautionary tale of the price paid for consuming illegal drugs. He was a groundbreaking artist who continued to shape and inspire Floyd long after he took up gardening.
I have always loved how they overlay Syd's style of constantly changing tempo of guitar strumming in this, and how they celebrate the wizardry of sounds he used to get by scratching, bending, or using slide on the strings to get wild effects, such as he did on Interstellar Overdrive, Astronomy Domine, and Lucifer Sam, and I love how they express their anguish and frustration that he flamed out right at the rise of their newfound fame, which he'd rather miraculously won for them -- from stodgy guys in suits at EMI Records in London, mind you -- by the force of his passion and incredibly brilliant creative vision. The fact that the group were able to keep going, creating such immortally relevant Art from that and their own inspirations is truly a testament to the Power of Music that seeks outlet in us!
Sid Barret is usually treated as a side show or cautionary tale of the price paid for consuming illegal drugs. He was a groundbreaking artist who continued to shape and inspire Floyd long after he took up gardening.
sergioso wrote:
Perfection
Around this album was released., I somoked my first joint and while listening to it I was liying on the carpet of a good friend dad's studio (an importan lawyer) wathcing the white celing came alive. I may forget many important things in my life. But never that evening. En paz descanse mi querido Pablo.
Perfection
Really enjoying this following Radiohead! Genius. RP rocks!!
I have always loved how they overlay Syd's style of constantly changing tempo of guitar strumming in this, and how they celebrate the wizardry of sounds he used to get by scratching, bending, or using slide on the strings to get wild effects, such as he did on Interstellar Overdrive, Astronomy Domine, and Lucifer Sam, and I love how they express their anguish and frustration that he flamed out right at the rise of their newfound fame, which he'd rather miraculously won for them -- from stodgy guys in suits at EMI Records in London, mind you -- by the force of his passion and incredibly brilliant creative vision. The fact that the group were able to keep going, creating such immortally relevant Art from that and their own inspirations is truly a testament to the Power of Music that seeks outlet in us!
Around this album was released., I somoked my first joint and while listening to it I was liying on the carpet of a good friend dad's studio (an importan lawyer) wathcing the white celing came alive. I may forget many important things in my life. But never that evening. En paz descanse mi querido Pablo.
Curly_Stuff wrote:
I get this.
I didn't really listen to commercial radio much after grade school. I mostly listen to my own collection but even with RP, which I absolutely love, I'm particular about what and how often I listen anything. To me, the best music can get annoying when it's overplayed. I use the psd button mainly when I'm trying to avoid burnout.
I will skip something I'm not crazy about but I'll skip things I like too, including Floyd sometimes.
There are a few bands that when I hear them, I just think of top hit radio songs, I don't really hear it I just hear a song that has played a billion times and I wait for it to be over. Sorry. I watched it live once on youtube and was impressed...had to let it in, see it in a different way. But I still don't hear Floyd. It gets played too much for me...but I love RP so am not complaining.
I get this.
I didn't really listen to commercial radio much after grade school. I mostly listen to my own collection but even with RP, which I absolutely love, I'm particular about what and how often I listen anything. To me, the best music can get annoying when it's overplayed. I use the psd button mainly when I'm trying to avoid burnout.
I will skip something I'm not crazy about but I'll skip things I like too, including Floyd sometimes.
8,3? Sorry but America is failing. 10 10 10 =30!
When this came out, it was overplayed in the dorms at my college, on crummy stereos! It is so much better now, in FLAC w/ great phones, amp & DAC!
Never been a bigly yuge Pink Floyd fan, but a scrubbed-face young, very, activist type just knocked on my door asking for my support for some candidate for city council I'd never heard of (in my district of 25+ years). I'm always polite to these kids; send them on their way with a nice "Welcome to the machine!"
Until I eventually read the lyrics, I always wondered if this song was a bit pervy: "provided with toys and scouting for boys". Hmm. Fine song, though, and classic album.
thewiseking wrote:
How much over their allowable profit are they? Anyway, they did welcome us, which is very polite.
Yeah,the Pink Floyd Cash Machine. All the worst aspects of CLASSIC ROCK in one tidy package, always on sale. Hey Man, Look at The Giant Pig. Pink Friggin Floyd MaAAAN! (takes hit, scratches self, belches, swigs supersized Bud Lite)
How much over their allowable profit are they? Anyway, they did welcome us, which is very polite.
thewiseking wrote:
Just because it became 'popular' does not subtract from the originality, quality and feeling of Pink Floyd's music.
Yeah,the Pink Floyd Cash Machine. All the worst aspects of CLASSIC ROCK in one tidy package, always on sale. Hey Man, Look at The Giant Pig. Pink Friggin Floyd MaAAAN! (takes hit, scratches self, belches, swigs supersized Bud Lite)
Just because it became 'popular' does not subtract from the originality, quality and feeling of Pink Floyd's music.
PRoeder61 wrote:
You're so superior to the rest of us lame RP listeners. The fact that your name is thewiseking proves it! I'm just thankful that you at least try to enlighten us. Now, back to my 40oz Bud Lite.
thewiseking wrote:
Still fighting against the Machine:
Pink Floyd IS The Machine
A Great Big Soul Sucking Corporation with its' own Flying Pig for a mascot.
A Great Big Soul Sucking Corporation with its' own Flying Pig for a mascot.
Still fighting against the Machine:
thewiseking wrote:
You're so superior to the rest of us lame RP listeners. The fact that your name is thewiseking proves it! I'm just thankful that you at least try to enlighten us. Now, back to my 40oz Bud Lite.
Yeah,the Pink Floyd Cash Machine. All the worst aspects of CLASSIC ROCK in one tidy package, always on sale. Hey Man, Look at The Giant Pig. Pink Friggin Floyd MaAAAN! (takes hit, scratches self, belches, swigs supersized Bud Lite)
You're so superior to the rest of us lame RP listeners. The fact that your name is thewiseking proves it! I'm just thankful that you at least try to enlighten us. Now, back to my 40oz Bud Lite.
baylees wrote:
It's alright. We told you what to dream.
Welcome to the machine
It's alright. We told you what to dream.
Pink Floyd IS The Machine
A Great Big Soul Sucking Corporation with its' own Flying Pig for a mascot.
A Great Big Soul Sucking Corporation with its' own Flying Pig for a mascot.
Yeah,the Pink Floyd Cash Machine. All the worst aspects of CLASSIC ROCK in one tidy package, always on sale. Hey Man, Look at The Giant Pig. Pink Friggin Floyd MaAAAN! (takes hit, scratches self, belches, swigs supersized Bud Lite)
Everyone strapped in?! Here we go..... 
There are a few bands that when I hear them, I just think of top hit radio songs, I don't really hear it I just hear a song that has played a billion times and I wait for it to be over. Sorry. I watched it live once on youtube and was impressed...had to let it in, see it in a different way. But I still don't hear Floyd. It gets played too much for me...but I love RP so am not complaining.
On_The_Beach wrote:
That is really what I think.
I see what you did there. ( ^;
That is really what I think.
I see what you did there. ( ^;
ench wrote:
Not really.... skip the LL and play more Floyd.....
Oh, very nice transition from Kiko and the Lavender Moon.
Not really.... skip the LL and play more Floyd.....
gregskrtic wrote:
"I'm a big Pink Floyd fan, but..."
There is no 'but'. Either you're a big PF fan or you're not.
I'm a big Pink Floyd fan, but find this one tune to be grating and most annoying on my ears.
"I'm a big Pink Floyd fan, but..."
There is no 'but'. Either you're a big PF fan or you're not.
Welcome to the machine
Emwolb wrote:
10
My ABSOLUTE favorite PF song
10My ABSOLUTE favorite PF song
gregskrtic wrote:
Same. Too forced or self-serious
I'm a big Pink Floyd fan, but find this one tune to be grating and most annoying on my ears.
Same. Too forced or self-serious
One of the best songs ever and will continue to be......
Bill's obsession continues
Oxen1morale wrote:
Godlike fits better
Fantastic
Godlike fits better
Fantastic
CaffeineSam wrote:
LOL
Second track I heard from these kids today here on RP. I really wish them well. The song is great, but with these lyrics you cannot expect any mainstream success in today's cutthroat industry.
I mean, they're practically saying they're getting a raw deal from their recording company, that's recipe for disaster.
I mean, they're practically saying they're getting a raw deal from their recording company, that's recipe for disaster.
LOL
misterbearbaby wrote:
He died for their sins.
I like the posts that denigrate The Floyd for having too high an intellectual content. Syd Barrett died for your sins, children...
He died for their sins.
my sixteens
I'm a big Pink Floyd fan, but find this one tune to be grating and most annoying on my ears.
One late night when I was young 2 friends of mine and I 4WD deep into the woods. We stopped the truck and started drinking beer and hot boxing a bong until the cab was so full of sticky bud smoke you could barely see out. As we sat there zoning out to this tune and our heads lad back my friend leaned forward and spat on my leg. I yelled WTF! He replied: "Du-u-u-u-uwwde, I thought we were outside"
ench wrote:
Hmmm, he liked your comment ench and did it again today.
Oh, very nice transition from Kiko and the Lavender Moon.
Hmmm, he liked your comment ench and did it again today.
PSD!
Used to great effect in the chill-inducing Season 4 finale of Person of Interest.
Second track I heard from these kids today here on RP. I really wish them well. The song is great, but with these lyrics you cannot expect any mainstream success in today's cutthroat industry.
I mean, they're practically saying they're getting a raw deal from their recording company, that's recipe for disaster.
I mean, they're practically saying they're getting a raw deal from their recording company, that's recipe for disaster.
Love playing the vinyl on my B&O turntable, pulling the grilles off the ADS bookshelf speakers to watch the woofers pulse back and forth with the beginning notes.
Oh, very nice transition from Kiko and the Lavender Moon.
thewiseking say
Posted: Sep 26, 2014 - 12:48:
Ha, Ha, Ha.
"most anti-intellectual, artless bunch of bombastic poseurs of all time"
—————————————————————————————————-
Why? can you demonstrate and explain with detail what you mean, or did that come to your mind without thinking? We wait.
Everybody in my alien space craft be dancing... love this classic...
Ha, Ha, Ha.
The Pink Void are perhaps the most anti-intellectual, artless bunch of bombastic poseurs of all time!
misterbearbaby wrote:
I like the posts that denigrate The Floyd for having too high an intellectual content. Syd Barrett died for your sins, children...
KaraokeVox wrote:
Hers is the web site to rent jaguar's - https://europeluxurycarhire.com/rent-luxury-cars-uk/jaguar-rental I hope you got enough English pounds
it is a dated piece but it sounds great on my ipad machine!
my dream is to listen to this while driving in the British countryside in a classic gold jaguar!
anyone...can you make this happen for me?
my dream is to listen to this while driving in the British countryside in a classic gold jaguar!
anyone...can you make this happen for me?
Hers is the web site to rent jaguar's - https://europeluxurycarhire.com/rent-luxury-cars-uk/jaguar-rental I hope you got enough English pounds
like an old friend... always welcome.
it is a dated piece but it sounds great on my ipad machine!
my dream is to listen to this while driving in the British countryside in a classic gold jaguar!
anyone...can you make this happen for me?
my dream is to listen to this while driving in the British countryside in a classic gold jaguar!
anyone...can you make this happen for me?
Love Dark Side ... but in the grand scheme of things, Wish You Were Were Here may be a better album ...
Rather a cliche isn't it?
Krispian wrote:
I had to leave one of those at our local science center back in the early 80s. Loved the music, but the movement of the "stars" got to me and I started to feel ill.
I had the most memorable, psychedelic experience with this song.
Back in the 80s our local planetarium used to regularly put on laser light shows. I'll never forget when "Welcome To The Machine" came on: The sound system was beautifully rich and clear. The planetarium was utterly black, and then the stars appeared, so it felt as though you were floating in outer space. As the song progressed, it appeared as though an enormous mechanical gyroscope wrapped around us and began moving along various axes, so it felt as though you were tumbling and spinning through space as the stars wheeled around you. All the while this incredible song played. Mind = blown.
Back in the 80s our local planetarium used to regularly put on laser light shows. I'll never forget when "Welcome To The Machine" came on: The sound system was beautifully rich and clear. The planetarium was utterly black, and then the stars appeared, so it felt as though you were floating in outer space. As the song progressed, it appeared as though an enormous mechanical gyroscope wrapped around us and began moving along various axes, so it felt as though you were tumbling and spinning through space as the stars wheeled around you. All the while this incredible song played. Mind = blown.
I had to leave one of those at our local science center back in the early 80s. Loved the music, but the movement of the "stars" got to me and I started to feel ill.
ThePoose wrote:
A bass. And a bigass amp/cabinet.
Forgive me, but I think this may be their best album. Maybe Animals.
Did you buy a guitar to punish your ma?
A bass. And a bigass amp/cabinet.
Forgive me, but I think this may be their best album. Maybe Animals.
I had the most memorable, psychedelic experience with this song.
Back in the 80s our local planetarium used to regularly put on laser light shows. I'll never forget when "Welcome To The Machine" came on: The sound system was beautifully rich and clear. The planetarium was utterly black, and then the stars appeared, so it felt as though you were floating in outer space. As the song progressed, it appeared as though an enormous mechanical gyroscope wrapped around us and began moving along various axes, so it felt as though you were tumbling and spinning through space as the stars wheeled around you. All the while this incredible song played. Mind = blown.
Back in the 80s our local planetarium used to regularly put on laser light shows. I'll never forget when "Welcome To The Machine" came on: The sound system was beautifully rich and clear. The planetarium was utterly black, and then the stars appeared, so it felt as though you were floating in outer space. As the song progressed, it appeared as though an enormous mechanical gyroscope wrapped around us and began moving along various axes, so it felt as though you were tumbling and spinning through space as the stars wheeled around you. All the while this incredible song played. Mind = blown.
DanFHiggins wrote:
cough cough- Holy shit that is good stuff - cough cough cough
Thank you! Love this song... this whole album is marvelous...
cough cough- Holy shit that is good stuff - cough cough cough
Thank you! Love this song... this whole album is marvelous...
Stingray wrote:
The point may be that we're already there.
Welcome to the iron-lung machine in the elderly home!
The point may be that we're already there.
linzie wrote:
Most of us probably were also.
BTW, as long as we're reminiscing, I was getting quite high while 1st listening to this.....
Most of us probably were also.
hallogallo wrote:
Quite frankly, Wish You Were Here is a brilliant and somewhat under-appreciated album.
Not by me. It's one of my favorite and most meaningful albums.
Quite frankly, Wish You Were Here is a brilliant and somewhat under-appreciated album.
Not by me. It's one of my favorite and most meaningful albums.
I like the posts that denigrate The Floyd for having too high an intellectual content. Syd Barrett died for your sins, children...
Welcome to the iron-lung machine in the elderly home!
This is just madness.
DanFHiggins wrote:
cough cough- Holy shit that is good stuff - cough cough cough WoWhooo!
cough cough- Holy shit that is good stuff - cough cough cough
Quite frankly, Wish You Were Here is a brilliant and somewhat under-appreciated album.
Lazarus wrote:
Everybody in my church loves this song...
cough cough- Holy shit that is good stuff - cough cough cough
Everybody in my church loves this song...
cough cough- Holy shit that is good stuff - cough cough cough
Everybody in my church loves this song...
| fuzzy (GWN) |
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I agree with fuzzy here... And if you were to look at my previous postings you would see that I do indeed respect your opinion, Proclivities. I do think that PF is indeed "smart" music, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I condescend to those that do not like PF.
Did you buy a guitar to punish your ma?
Ahnyer_Keester wrote:
Very much agree.
Ahnyer_Keester wrote:
Very much agree.
Euskadita wrote:
I say PInk Floyd doesn't fit as a progressive band, rather a psychedelic band.
Very much agree.
I say PInk Floyd doesn't fit as a progressive band, rather a psychedelic band.
Very much agree.
One of their finest. And there have been many "finests" with Floyd. Thanks for playing it.
pianocomposer wrote:
I will be the 1st to admit that Porcupine Tree is the best modern progressive rock band in existence. But their work has no subtlety and is not art, per-se. If you listen to most of PF's work, you will find experimentation, beautiful synthesizers, and (best of all) music for smart people.
Perhaps you mean "music which appeals to people who believe themselves to be smarter than everyone else".
I will be the 1st to admit that Porcupine Tree is the best modern progressive rock band in existence. But their work has no subtlety and is not art, per-se. If you listen to most of PF's work, you will find experimentation, beautiful synthesizers, and (best of all) music for smart people.
Perhaps you mean "music which appeals to people who believe themselves to be smarter than everyone else".
unclehud wrote:
stunix wrote:
er, we all know that its the intro to Wish You Were Here, and I think you started on side 2!
Likely because they were... to ready to listen to it to realize that they were starting on side 2. Been there.
I'll never forget hearing this album for the first time. My college roomate kept it in the shrink wrap until we were ... ready to listen to it. We set it on the turntable, heard the needle hit the groove, and this tinny guitar sound came out! Stopped the record, checked everything, even put on another album to make sure the stereo system was good — and it was.
Despondent that he'd purchased a defective LP, we decided to listen to it anyway. Of course, as we all know now, that tinny guitar was just the intro to "Shine On You Carazy Diamond." For me, it was an excellent practical joke played on us — and the entire listening public — and something that set me into an appreciative mood.
Despondent that he'd purchased a defective LP, we decided to listen to it anyway. Of course, as we all know now, that tinny guitar was just the intro to "Shine On You Carazy Diamond." For me, it was an excellent practical joke played on us — and the entire listening public — and something that set me into an appreciative mood.
stunix wrote:
er, we all know that its the intro to Wish You Were Here, and I think you started on side 2!
Likely because they were... to ready to listen to it to realize that they were starting on side 2. Been there.
Another example of "British people seeming to sing with an American accent": Roger pronounces Jaguar as two syllables (jag-war) vs. three (jag-yoo-Ér).
It's probably all in my head, but there it is all the same.
It's probably all in my head, but there it is all the same.
unclehud wrote:
er, we all know that its the intro to Wish You Were Here, and I think you started on side 2!
I'll never forget hearing this album for the first time. My college roomate kept it in the shrink wrap until we were ... ready to listen to it. We set it on the turntable, heard the needle hit the groove, and this tinny guitar sound came out! Stopped the record, checked everything, even put on another album to make sure the stereo system was good — and it was.
Despondent that he'd purchased a defective LP, we decided to listen to it anyway. Of course, as we all know now, that tinny guitar was just the intro to "Shine On You Carazy Diamond." For me, it was an excellent practical joke played on us — and the entire listening public — and something that set me into an appreciative mood.
Despondent that he'd purchased a defective LP, we decided to listen to it anyway. Of course, as we all know now, that tinny guitar was just the intro to "Shine On You Carazy Diamond." For me, it was an excellent practical joke played on us — and the entire listening public — and something that set me into an appreciative mood.
er, we all know that its the intro to Wish You Were Here, and I think you started on side 2!
Agree. I would have to caution against using airplay and album sales to quantify greatness. It can be misleading. Have to add Zeppelin and Beatles as the only true contenders to Greatest of All Time argument. What really made them great WAS and is the Music. A lot of artist can work the machine and make some sales, but the great bands are great because they have great music. Look at the body of work. PF has 4 of the best complete albums ever -Dark Side, Wish, Animals, Wall. Not just one good song on a whole album of crummy songs. Look at this song alone -it gets an 8-9 rating, but might be the weakest link on the album. That says a lot.
pianocomposer wrote:
I will be the 1st to admit that Porcupine Tree is the best modern progressive rock band in existence. But their work has no subtlety and is not art, per-se. If you listen to most of PF's work, you will find experimentation, beautiful synthesizers, and (best of all) music for smart people. The Floyd was big into concept albums, which are difficult to do & PT simply isn't up to the task. The songs that PT write are rockin, big time (and I love their songs) but they lack substance when compared to great songs like "Welcome to the Machine" and "Us and Them" and "Time". This may be a generational argument, as I was in high school & college when PF was doing their best work. You may be in the same position with PT. They are a great band by modern standards, but Pink Floyd is one of the greatest bands of all time in any category. Think about it for a second? Which band gets the most radio air play? Which band sells more copies of their old albums on iTunes? PT is a niche band in a niche market. Pink Floyd managed to transcend their progressive brand & go commercial without selling out their artistic integrity. It's simply a matter of quality.
pianocomposer wrote:
I will be the 1st to admit that Porcupine Tree is the best modern progressive rock band in existence. But their work has no subtlety and is not art, per-se. If you listen to most of PF's work, you will find experimentation, beautiful synthesizers, and (best of all) music for smart people. The Floyd was big into concept albums, which are difficult to do & PT simply isn't up to the task. The songs that PT write are rockin, big time (and I love their songs) but they lack substance when compared to great songs like "Welcome to the Machine" and "Us and Them" and "Time". This may be a generational argument, as I was in high school & college when PF was doing their best work. You may be in the same position with PT. They are a great band by modern standards, but Pink Floyd is one of the greatest bands of all time in any category. Think about it for a second? Which band gets the most radio air play? Which band sells more copies of their old albums on iTunes? PT is a niche band in a niche market. Pink Floyd managed to transcend their progressive brand & go commercial without selling out their artistic integrity. It's simply a matter of quality.
pianocomposer wrote:
I will be the 1st to admit that Porcupine Tree is the best modern progressive rock band in existence. But their work has no subtlety and is not art, per-se. If you listen to most of PF's work, you will find experimentation, beautiful synthesizers, and (best of all) music for smart people. The Floyd was big into concept albums, which are difficult to do & PT simply isn't up to the task. The songs that PT write are rockin, big time (and I love their songs) but they lack substance when compared to great songs like "Welcome to the Machine" and "Us and Them" and "Time". This may be a generational argument, as I was in high school & college when PF was doing their best work. You may be in the same position with PT. They are a great band by modern standards, but Pink Floyd is one of the greatest bands of all time in any category. Think about it for a second? Which band gets the most radio air play? Which band sells more copies of their old albums on iTunes? PT is a niche band in a niche market. Pink Floyd managed to transcend their progressive brand & go commercial without selling out their artistic integrity. It's simply a matter of quality.
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I will be the 1st to admit that Porcupine Tree is the best modern progressive rock band in existence. But their work has no subtlety and is not art, per-se. If you listen to most of PF's work, you will find experimentation, beautiful synthesizers, and (best of all) music for smart people. The Floyd was big into concept albums, which are difficult to do & PT simply isn't up to the task. The songs that PT write are rockin, big time (and I love their songs) but they lack substance when compared to great songs like "Welcome to the Machine" and "Us and Them" and "Time". This may be a generational argument, as I was in high school & college when PF was doing their best work. You may be in the same position with PT. They are a great band by modern standards, but Pink Floyd is one of the greatest bands of all time in any category. Think about it for a second? Which band gets the most radio air play? Which band sells more copies of their old albums on iTunes? PT is a niche band in a niche market. Pink Floyd managed to transcend their progressive brand & go commercial without selling out their artistic integrity. It's simply a matter of quality.
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It's so very arrogant to suggest any form of musical taste is for ‘smart people’ and so clearly lacking in empirical evidence. After all if you correlated any form of IQ test with musical taste you are far more likely to find Classical Music and Jazz (arguably for a whole host of socio-economic reasons) have a stronger coefficient. Personally I’d rather pull my ears off than listen to John Zorn, but has little bearing on my ‘intelligence’.
pianocomposer wrote:
I will be the 1st to admit that Porcupine Tree is the best modern progressive rock band in existence. But their work has no subtlety and is not art, per-se. If you listen to most of PF's work, you will find experimentation, beautiful synthesizers, and (best of all) music for smart people. The Floyd was big into concept albums, which are difficult to do & PT simply isn't up to the task. The songs that PT write are rockin, big time (and I love their songs) but they lack substance when compared to great songs like "Welcome to the Machine" and "Us and Them" and "Time". This may be a generational argument, as I was in high school & college when PF was doing their best work. You may be in the same position with PT. They are a great band by modern standards, but Pink Floyd is one of the greatest bands of all time in any category. Think about it for a second? Which band gets the most radio air play? Which band sells more copies of their old albums on iTunes? PT is a niche band in a niche market. Pink Floyd managed to transcend their progressive brand & go commercial without selling out their artistic integrity. It's simply a matter of quality.
I say PInk Floyd doesn't fit as a progressive band, rather a psychedelic band. far more popular than Porcupine Tree, the latter has the disadvantage of not being in the mainstream media so dominantly, but that has nothing to do with quality.
I will be the 1st to admit that Porcupine Tree is the best modern progressive rock band in existence. But their work has no subtlety and is not art, per-se. If you listen to most of PF's work, you will find experimentation, beautiful synthesizers, and (best of all) music for smart people. The Floyd was big into concept albums, which are difficult to do & PT simply isn't up to the task. The songs that PT write are rockin, big time (and I love their songs) but they lack substance when compared to great songs like "Welcome to the Machine" and "Us and Them" and "Time". This may be a generational argument, as I was in high school & college when PF was doing their best work. You may be in the same position with PT. They are a great band by modern standards, but Pink Floyd is one of the greatest bands of all time in any category. Think about it for a second? Which band gets the most radio air play? Which band sells more copies of their old albums on iTunes? PT is a niche band in a niche market. Pink Floyd managed to transcend their progressive brand & go commercial without selling out their artistic integrity. It's simply a matter of quality.
I say PInk Floyd doesn't fit as a progressive band, rather a psychedelic band. far more popular than Porcupine Tree, the latter has the disadvantage of not being in the mainstream media so dominantly, but that has nothing to do with quality.
Timing is everything.
pianocomposer wrote:
I will be the 1st to admit that Porcupine Tree is the best modern progressive rock band in existence. But their work has no subtlety and is not art, per-se. If you listen to most of PF's work, you will find experimentation, beautiful synthesizers, and (best of all) music for smart people. The Floyd was big into concept albums, which are difficult to do & PT simply isn't up to the task. The songs that PT write are rockin, big time (and I love their songs) but they lack substance when compared to great songs like "Welcome to the Machine" and "Us and Them" and "Time". This may be a generational argument, as I was in high school & college when PF was doing their best work. You may be in the same position with PT. They are a great band by modern standards, but Pink Floyd is one of the greatest bands of all time in any category. Think about it for a second? Which band gets the most radio air play? Which band sells more copies of their old albums on iTunes? PT is a niche band in a niche market. Pink Floyd managed to transcend their progressive brand & go commercial without selling out their artistic integrity. It's simply a matter of quality.
Very well articulated! I concur on much of this. King Crimson is still kicking around and PT certainly does not transcend KC, IMHO!
I will be the 1st to admit that Porcupine Tree is the best modern progressive rock band in existence. But their work has no subtlety and is not art, per-se. If you listen to most of PF's work, you will find experimentation, beautiful synthesizers, and (best of all) music for smart people. The Floyd was big into concept albums, which are difficult to do & PT simply isn't up to the task. The songs that PT write are rockin, big time (and I love their songs) but they lack substance when compared to great songs like "Welcome to the Machine" and "Us and Them" and "Time". This may be a generational argument, as I was in high school & college when PF was doing their best work. You may be in the same position with PT. They are a great band by modern standards, but Pink Floyd is one of the greatest bands of all time in any category. Think about it for a second? Which band gets the most radio air play? Which band sells more copies of their old albums on iTunes? PT is a niche band in a niche market. Pink Floyd managed to transcend their progressive brand & go commercial without selling out their artistic integrity. It's simply a matter of quality.
Very well articulated! I concur on much of this. King Crimson is still kicking around and PT certainly does not transcend KC, IMHO!
RedGuitar wrote:
If I may ask, where did you get a 5.1 remix of WYWH? I thought there was only a quad mix floating around.
The Immersion Box Set Has all 3 mixes and the SACD has the Stereo and 5.1
If I may ask, where did you get a 5.1 remix of WYWH? I thought there was only a quad mix floating around.
The Immersion Box Set Has all 3 mixes and the SACD has the Stereo and 5.1
Canlistener wrote:
I will be the 1st to admit that Porcupine Tree is the best modern progressive rock band in existence. But their work has no subtlety and is not art, per-se. If you listen to most of PF's work, you will find experimentation, beautiful synthesizers, and (best of all) music for smart people. The Floyd was big into concept albums, which are difficult to do & PT simply isn't up to the task. The songs that PT write are rockin, big time (and I love their songs) but they lack substance when compared to great songs like "Welcome to the Machine" and "Us and Them" and "Time". This may be a generational argument, as I was in high school & college when PF was doing their best work. You may be in the same position with PT. They are a great band by modern standards, but Pink Floyd is one of the greatest bands of all time in any category. Think about it for a second? Which band gets the most radio air play? Which band sells more copies of their old albums on iTunes? PT is a niche band in a niche market. Pink Floyd managed to transcend their progressive brand & go commercial without selling out their artistic integrity. It's simply a matter of quality.
Porcupine Tree have come and have surpassed this. This laid the foundation but is hardly a 10.
I will be the 1st to admit that Porcupine Tree is the best modern progressive rock band in existence. But their work has no subtlety and is not art, per-se. If you listen to most of PF's work, you will find experimentation, beautiful synthesizers, and (best of all) music for smart people. The Floyd was big into concept albums, which are difficult to do & PT simply isn't up to the task. The songs that PT write are rockin, big time (and I love their songs) but they lack substance when compared to great songs like "Welcome to the Machine" and "Us and Them" and "Time". This may be a generational argument, as I was in high school & college when PF was doing their best work. You may be in the same position with PT. They are a great band by modern standards, but Pink Floyd is one of the greatest bands of all time in any category. Think about it for a second? Which band gets the most radio air play? Which band sells more copies of their old albums on iTunes? PT is a niche band in a niche market. Pink Floyd managed to transcend their progressive brand & go commercial without selling out their artistic integrity. It's simply a matter of quality.
dmax wrote:
I have a 5.1 remix of this that I adore. It makes it much more spacious, and highlights Rick Wright (!)
The first time I played it, I just played it again, it was so mind-blowing.
If I may ask, where did you get a 5.1 remix of WYWH? I thought there was only a quad mix floating around.
I have a 5.1 remix of this that I adore. It makes it much more spacious, and highlights Rick Wright (!)
The first time I played it, I just played it again, it was so mind-blowing.
If I may ask, where did you get a 5.1 remix of WYWH? I thought there was only a quad mix floating around.
romeotuma wrote:
Everybody in my hotel room be dancing... love this classic...
Dancing in a dazed revolving modern dance kind of way maybe
Everybody in my hotel room be dancing... love this classic...
Dancing in a dazed revolving modern dance kind of way maybe
Canlistener wrote:
Simple question - How old are you?
Love the PT as well but come on lad.
Porcupine Tree have come and have surpassed this. This laid the foundation but is hardly a 10.
Simple question - How old are you?
Love the PT as well but come on lad.
jmsmy wrote:
It has been available in High Resolution Stereo since 1975 - just get a decent turntable
My '83 east-Berlin edition sounds great!
Finally Coming out on SACD in High Resolution Stereo and 5.1 on Acoustic Sounds..
It has been available in High Resolution Stereo since 1975 - just get a decent turntable
My '83 east-Berlin edition sounds great!
Otomi wrote:
Love this comment.
This was on repeat in my head as I went through the interminable immigration and customs line at the Houston international airport earlier this year.
Love this comment.
This was on repeat in my head as I went through the interminable immigration and customs line at the Houston international airport earlier this year.
BTW, as long as we're reminiscing, I was getting quite high while 1st listening to this.....
Finally Coming out on SACD in High Resolution Stereo and 5.1 on Acoustic Sounds..
And on Blu-Ray (Capitol-box set)
Along with the original 1975 Quad version on DVD - same box set
Part of the major remaster series from Pink Floyd this Fall and 2012
And on Blu-Ray (Capitol-box set)
Along with the original 1975 Quad version on DVD - same box set
Part of the major remaster series from Pink Floyd this Fall and 2012
UMMAGUMMA!!!!!!!!!
unclehud wrote:
Must've been some nice bong hits before that ceremonial first listening.... that tinny guitar sound is the beginning of the song "Wish You Were Here", the second track on side 2. Anyway, glad you liked the album.
I'll never forget hearing this album for the first time. My college roomate kept it in the shrink wrap until we were ... ready to listen to it. We set it on the turntable, heard the needle hit the groove, and this tinny guitar sound came out! Stopped the record, checked everything, even put on another album to make sure the stereo system was good — and it was.
Despondent that he'd purchased a defective LP, we decided to listen to it anyway. Of course, as we all know now, that tinny guitar was just the intro to "Shine On You Carazy Diamond." For me, it was an excellent practical joke played on us — and the entire listening public — and something that set me into an appreciative mood.
Despondent that he'd purchased a defective LP, we decided to listen to it anyway. Of course, as we all know now, that tinny guitar was just the intro to "Shine On You Carazy Diamond." For me, it was an excellent practical joke played on us — and the entire listening public — and something that set me into an appreciative mood.
Must've been some nice bong hits before that ceremonial first listening.... that tinny guitar sound is the beginning of the song "Wish You Were Here", the second track on side 2. Anyway, glad you liked the album.
Still hypnotizes me.
I'll never forget hearing this album for the first time. My college roomate kept it in the shrink wrap until we were ... ready to listen to it. We set it on the turntable, heard the needle hit the groove, and this tinny guitar sound came out! Stopped the record, checked everything, even put on another album to make sure the stereo system was good — and it was.
Despondent that he'd purchased a defective LP, we decided to listen to it anyway. Of course, as we all know now, that tinny guitar was just the intro to "Shine On You Carazy Diamond." For me, it was an excellent practical joke played on us — and the entire listening public — and something that set me into an appreciative mood.
Despondent that he'd purchased a defective LP, we decided to listen to it anyway. Of course, as we all know now, that tinny guitar was just the intro to "Shine On You Carazy Diamond." For me, it was an excellent practical joke played on us — and the entire listening public — and something that set me into an appreciative mood.
If there were such a thing as my favorite PF song... this may be it.
vandal wrote:
You bought a guitar to punish your ma. . .
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You bought a guitar to punish your ma. . .
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NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
You got this on the radio back then? Wow, I am jealous. I had to fire up my Dad's old valve radio late at night and hope for good atmospheric conditions just to hear pirate radio from Auckland and even then, they never played this.
Well, considering I was born in 1982... yeah, they played this on the radio.
You got this on the radio back then? Wow, I am jealous. I had to fire up my Dad's old valve radio late at night and hope for good atmospheric conditions just to hear pirate radio from Auckland and even then, they never played this.
Well, considering I was born in 1982... yeah, they played this on the radio.
Hah! I liked Bill's comment about how we are "full on members of the Borg" now, compared to when this song was released.
Great song from a great album. A big part of my junior high years, but still sweet after all these years . . .
Great song from a great album. A big part of my junior high years, but still sweet after all these years . . .
leathepea wrote:
not much, I was 3.
wrong.
not much, I was 3.
wrong. Jamunca wrote:
You got this on the radio back then? Wow, I am jealous. I had to fire up my Dad's old valve radio late at night and hope for good atmospheric conditions just to hear pirate radio from Auckland and even then, they never played this.
Random fact: This was the very first song I heard on the radio when I drove a car alone for the first time. I remember my parents had me run up to the grocery store for some dinner ingredients. The sky was overcast and I had never heard this tune before. It was so jarringly different that I drove mesmerized to Food Lion and sat in the parking lot to listen to the rest.
You got this on the radio back then? Wow, I am jealous. I had to fire up my Dad's old valve radio late at night and hope for good atmospheric conditions just to hear pirate radio from Auckland and even then, they never played this.
Hmmmm...where was I then? I think the weed I was puffing is still f—king with my memory....
Random fact: This was the very first song I heard on the radio when I drove a car alone for the first time. I remember my parents had me run up to the grocery store for some dinner ingredients. The sky was overcast and I had never heard this tune before. It was so jarringly different that I drove mesmerized to Food Lion and sat in the parking lot to listen to the rest.