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Paul Simon — Once Upon A Time There Was An Ocean
Album: Surprise
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Released: 2006
Length: 3:50
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Once upon a time there was an ocean
But now it's a mountain range
Something unstoppable set into motion
Nothing is different, but everything's changed

It's a dead end job, and you gets tired of sittin'
And it's like a nicotine habit you're always thinking about quittin'
I think about quittin' every day of the week
When I look out my window it's brown and it's bleak

Outta here
How am I gonna get outta here?
I'm thinking outta here
When am I gonna get outta here?
And when will I cash in my lottery ticket
And bury my past with my burdens and strife?
I want to shake every limb in the garden of Eden
And make every love the love of my life

I figure that once upon a time I was an ocean
But now I'm a mountain range
Something unstoppable set into motion
Nothing is different, but everything's changed

Found a room in the heart of the city, down by the bridge
Hot plate and TV and beer in the fridge
But I'm easy, I'm open, that's my gift
I can flow with the traffic, I can drift with the drift
Home again?
Naw, never going home again
Think about home again?
I never think about home

But then comes a letter from home
The handwriting's fragile and strange
Something unstoppable set into motion
Nothing is different, but everything's changed

The light through the stained glass was cobalt and red
And the frayed cuffs and collars were mended by haloes of golden thread
The choir sang, "Once Upon A Time There Was An Ocean"
And all the old hymns and family names came fluttering down as leaves of emotion

As nothing is different, but everything's changed
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lots of Paul Simon on rp . . .thx for the free skips . . 
 bobringer wrote:
He sounds lik Francis Dunnery in parts of this.
 
And I now see... I said the same thing over a year ago.  I guess what I heard back then really is there.
He sounds lik Francis Dunnery in parts of this.
Lyrically interesting... Is he talking about without water we really don't have to worry about the day to day stuff... Bcz without water there is no life at all. Interesting.
i think we can blame brian eno for that one...
Thanks for playing this, Bill.
a lot of people must not think too much of this either... I bought if off amazon for a penny. gave it a listen, then gave it away. sorry paul, nice try. I dig the lyrics, but the music, I did not dig.
I've enjoyed the unfamiliar Paul Simon songs heard today on RP. Thank you.
 Proclivities wrote:

I am over 40 and not "stuck listening to dated tired music", maybe some are; I cannot speak for them.  I understand your point about how generalizations based upon age are tossed about; it is pretty silly.  Anyhow, I think that this song is not very interesting at all.  It sounds like bored, perfunctory output from Mr. Simon. IMHO
 
Gee I always thought the problem was those young whipper snappers playing the devil's music way too loud and they can reach out to vary their tastes
At times, he's still got it - the flash of perfect songwriting genius.
Interesting... sounds like Francis Dunnery in parts...
I also think this sucks, and I usually like Paul Simian
 bluedot wrote:

Um..cluelessness?  This happens to be an incredible, thoughtful song. 

 
{#High-five} Going with bluedot. Terrific song!

 bluedot wrote:

Um..cluelessness?  This happens to be an incredible, thoughtful song.  Suck up a CLUE, my friend.
 
Gotta go with Waybo. This sucks.
 Waybo wrote:
Suckiness.
 
Um..cluelessness?  This happens to be an incredible, thoughtful song.  Suck up a CLUE, my friend.

 GChevy410 wrote:

I think most people over 40 are too stuck listening to dated tired music to expand their horizons and see what great music is out there.

See? It burns people up when someone makes an over-generalizing silly comment.  I am well under 40, and have never been cool, nor have I tried to be since middle school.

 
I am over 40 and not "stuck listening to dated tired music", maybe some are; I cannot speak for them.  I understand your point about how generalizations based upon age are tossed about; it is pretty silly.  Anyhow, I think that this song is not very interesting at all.  It sounds like bored, perfunctory output from Mr. Simon. IMHO

 Thistle wrote:
Liked this immediately. 

I think most of the bored RP listeners are under the age of 40 and are too busy looking cool to open their ears.
 
I think most people over 40 are too stuck listening to dated tired music to expand their horizons and see what great music is out there.

See? It burns people up when someone makes an over-generalizing silly comment.  I am well under 40, and have never been cool, nor have I tried to be since middle school.

 Papernapkin wrote:
Mr. Simon delivers more boring sap.
    that's COLD, but true, he has outlived his usefulness . . . . T E DI O U S


Anyone else notice the two entrances of "Once upon a time" after four bars?  one comes in an eighth note early and is soft, as if an early take mistake leaked from another track...

Love this song more each time I hear it...

 
Liked this immediately. 

I think most of the bored RP listeners are under the age of 40 and are too busy looking cool to open their ears.
vandal wrote:

Once upon a time, there was boredom. . .

"Boredom has been defined by C. D. Fisher in terms of its central psychological processes: 'an unpleasant, transient affective state in which the individual feels a pervasive lack of interest in and difficulty concentrating on the current activity.'"

Applies perfectly to this particular cut.

{#Yawn}


Heh, I tried twice to get through the definition but, well, I got bored.

 Zep wrote:
the only thing disappointing about this song is the rather low rating bestowed upon it by the RP critics-in-residence.
 

{#Yes}
the only thing disappointing about this song is the rather low rating bestowed upon it by the RP critics-in-residence.
 jbtidwell wrote:
I have to agree. I was able to appreciate it when it came out, but two years later I'm starting to enjoy it.
 
me too—   Paul's recent work takes time to appreciate—-   but isn't that a sign of work that stands the test of time...? You're the One and Surprise are now among my favorites. 
Mr. Simon delivers more boring sap.
Am I all at sea, or am I just catchin' your drift, Bill? {#Wink}

Just watched Iconoclasts on Sundance with Paul Simon and Lorne Michaels, made during the rehearsal for this tour/album. Made me appreciate his music and place in American music history all over again. Thanks Paul, I love your voice.
lazylemming wrote:
i love the stylistic change of the song once he receives "a letter from home". the buzz disappears and the acoustic guitar levels rise. it took me some time to appreciate this song, but once i did i really liked it.
I have to agree. I was able to appreciate it when it came out, but two years later I'm starting to enjoy it.
otto63 wrote:
Steve McQueen is dead. Paul Simon lives but his music is now dead. I wonder if there has been a descent funeral.
A descending funeral? Hmmmm?? Works for me.
i love the stylistic change of the song once he receives "a letter from home". the buzz disappears and the acoustic guitar levels rise. it took me some time to appreciate this song, but once i did i really liked it.
edwardsprague wrote:
Paul Simon continues to be one of our best songwriters. I know it is a far cry from graceland but trying to recapture that sound would just be getting stuck in the past.
I'm with you, Edward. I'm old enough to have enjoyed his entire body of work. He keeps evolving, experimenting. How many 60-year-old songwriters can say that?
Paul Simon continues to be one of our best songwriters. I know it is a far cry from graceland but trying to recapture that sound would just be getting stuck in the past.
zipper wrote:
I've grown to really like everything about this song except for that annoying bzz bzz bzz b-bzz bzz bzz noise. WTF IS THAT?! bumped from a 1 to a 2.
what? you really like everything about the song except for the "bzz" so it gets a 2? i wonder what you'd rate something you absolutely hate
I really like this song. ...but as a general rule, any song that has lyrics that rhyme "life" with "strife" annoys me- way over done in way too many songs.
I'm one of the biggest proponents of artists evolving. But somehow, for some reason, this just doesn't work for me. I'm not trying to force Simon into a life of nothing but Graceland, but this line of music doesn't suit him well, from my perspective. Acceptable at best.
themotion wrote:
ignorance
Suckiness.
Great artist, Great song. If you can't appriciate that fact. I don't know what you possiblly can.
skdenfeld wrote:
If Steve McQueen was a singer/songwriter, he'd be Paul Simon; effortless cool is exuded on every song.
Steve McQueen is dead. Paul Simon lives but his music is now dead. I wonder if there has been a descent funeral.
If Steve McQueen was a singer/songwriter, he'd be Paul Simon; effortless cool is exuded on every song.
Before anyone jumps on me... yes, "it's me". But honestly I understand that Paul Simon is a good artist and all, but he is a tad overrated. 6 for me.
jonshan wrote:
this voice is like a lulaby....soft and soothing,comfortable. anything Paul belts out is like ice cream for the soul.
Yep, my dad had Mel Torme, the velvet fog, we get Paul. Not bad.
"Nothing is different, but everything's changed." Such is life. 8 9
drekar wrote:
Why do I like Paul Simon SO much? If someone explained his music/ vocal style to me I would swear that I would dislike it...
Maybe because he's been the preeminent American songwriter of the past forty plus years?
Viv515 wrote:
Agreed! So what's up with a 6.4 rating???
ignorance
Monkeysdad wrote:
Remember when his stuff was unquestionably good?! I do. What happened?
He decided take a risk
Remember when his stuff was unquestionably good?! I do. What happened?
I've grown to really like everything about this song except for that annoying bzz bzz bzz b-bzz bzz bzz noise. WTF IS THAT?! bumped from a 1 to a 2.
This album is a genuine surprise. The songs take unexpected turns and are embroidered with beautiful detail.
Why do I like Paul Simon SO much? If someone explained his music/ vocal style to me I would swear that I would dislike it...
Gorgeous, but I find all the electronical biddly boop unnecessary and distracting in this case.
Nice electronic groove, and with the melodic songwriting of Paul Simon, how could this song possibly fail? Wonderful stuff. And his skill at writing lyrics is still going strong: "It's a dead end job, and you gets tired of sitting And it's like a nicotine habit you're always thinking about quitting" Spot on!
MtnGoat wrote:
I'm still being surprised by the whole album. I seem to drag it out once a month, pop it in the car player and play it a few times and then stow it. And then repeat, but each time playing it a few more times. We are lucky!
We are fortunate indeed! and may equal benefits rain down on all!
coloradojohn wrote:
I'm still being surprised by this song, and I must say that this man has given the world one incalculably valuable musical gift after another throughout his long and ongoing career. What a genius, indeed! Go, Paul, go! and keep 'em coming on RP tonight, Bill!
I'm still being surprised by the whole album. I seem to drag it out once a month, pop it in the car player and play it a few times and then stow it. And then repeat, but each time playing it a few more times. We are lucky!
Boy, he sounds like that Francis Dunnery on this. 8.
toker wrote:
Yeah, this song is extrodinary. What a genius Paul Simon is.
Agreed! So what's up with a 6.4 rating???
this voice is like a lulaby....soft and soothing,comfortable. anything Paul belts out is like ice cream for the soul.
Not Paul's best...I gave it a 5
I'm still being surprised by this song, and I must say that this man has given the world one incalculably valuable musical gift after another throughout his long and ongoing career. What a genius, indeed! Go, Paul, go! and keep 'em coming on RP tonight, Bill!
Yeah, this song is extrodinary. What a genius Paul Simon is.
Once upon a time I was a toaster, but now I am a microwave
Absolutely amazing. Classic Paul elements I love, with inovations that appeal to my eclectic taste. Probably my top three P.S. song ever. He can so perfectly describe moments of my life and the thoughts of my heart. I love Paul Simon!
As soon as I heard that voice the mute button was hit. This guy irritates the almighty bejaysus out of me - just too knowing and sophisto and playing to the sensibilities of the chattering classes for my liking. It's about time he took a deserved early retirement, IMHO, before he rips off - sorry, 'pays homage to' - any more world music styles. Apologies to any PS fans out there - maybe I'm just feeling grumpy 'cos it's Monday morning :(
I like the juxtaposition of the gorgeous voice with the cheezy instruments
Saw him perform in Chicago last week. I was pleasantly surprised. Not crazy about this album, but I enjoyed the songs live. His older material was reworked so his performance didn't feel like an oldies act.
Not feelin' it. Sorry Paul. Early stuff is fantastic, Graceland was genius, Rhythm of the Saints grew on me rather well, but this... no.
Antigone wrote:
My $.02 worth: he's not afraid to try something different and new for himself. Stretching himself as an artist ... I admire him all the more for that!
I'm real proud of him trying to expand his sound, but man, this album still sucks. It sounds a lot like crappy, contrived lyrics backed by sound from a $10 Casio keyboard from Target. Personal self-expansion is a fine thing, but music is about music, and this just doesnt measure up - I don't really think "effort" factors into whether a song is good/deep/artistic/meaningful, or not. Does this mean if I try _real hard_ to become quarterback for an NFL team (at 42, and never having played football) then I could be considered "talented" ? - I think not. Music should be able to stand on it's own and not need to be propped up with excuses. sorry to say...the emperor has no clothes...
dea1018 wrote:
Another song about being poor, being sung by a multi-millionaire. Why do these guys think they have to relate to the little guy on this level. Just say no.
A lot of us started out as average people, not born with wealth, or power, or a family full of success and the keys to pass those values to their kin. The basic patterns and beliefs and values one has are acquired early on in life and rarely if ever leave us (suppressed but still beneath the surface-and emerge at the least expected time). Paul has always come across as an "average" person and not a superstar. His lyrics relate to average, everyday experience. He is a poet about the life around us. It is a merit, a gift, and wonderful that he shares this with the world. And he should be rewarded for his many talents. If that equates with wealth, it still doesn't dismiss the feelings and emotions of the man.
dorkmeister wrote:
I see cynacism is still alive and well in New York city. Eno is over rated though... just ask David Byrne, Peter Gabriel, Robert Fripp, David Bowie, U2, and a score of other collaboraters. Idiots one and all.
First of all, my post is not overly cynical-- if you notice I said that I hated it AT FIRST, and now it has grown on me, and I like it (and now I like it even more). My comment about Eno mostly has to do with his credit on the album for "soundscapes", which is undeniably a BS term. And, if you listen to Paul Simon's previous album, You're The One, it's obvious that he is perfectly capable of producing - on his own-"soundscapes" that are equally detailed and elaborate as Brian Eno's. And, if you listen to "Surprise", there is no "soundscape" that is anything remarkable that Paul Simon (or many others) would find difficult to produce with today's technology. Brian Eno was an innovator in the earlier days of synthesized music, and has influenced and had a part in many great albums. That does not mean he's always good. And yes, in New York City, some people are cynical. Some people are not. Just like everywhere else.
Thistle wrote:
The only problem you people who hate this have is that you hate the idea of time and change and evolution. You refuse to accept an artist's need to evolve -- to use old sounds in ways that are new to the artist.
Huh? I dislike this percisely because it sounds like the typical Paul Simon stuff that he's been producing for decades. It's dull and boring BECAUSE he hasn't evolved.
xkolibuul wrote:
Fine then. Run yerself off to the tank, we'll stay here with this tune, and everyone's happy. Off you go now. Shoo. Scram.
i think i am going too.
Fine then. Run yerself off to the tank, we'll stay here with this tune, and everyone's happy. Off you go now. Shoo. Scram. fredriley wrote:
Cobblers. I just hate this track, full stop. I could enjoy myself more in a septic tank than listening to this pretentious pseudo-sophisto garbage.
Thistle wrote:
The only problem you people who hate this have is that you hate the idea of time and change and evolution. You refuse to accept an artist's need to evolve -- to use old sounds in ways that are new to the artist.
Cobblers. I just hate this track, full stop. I could enjoy myself more in a septic tank than listening to this pretentious pseudo-sophisto garbage.
Thistle wrote:
The only problem you people who hate this have is that you hate the idea of time and change and evolution. You refuse to accept an artist's need to evolve -- to use old sounds in ways that are new to the artist. Paul Simon is an artist and he is exploring all the mediums he has at his disposal. I applaud him. This stands toe to toe with the rest of his work.
Very well stated. I whole heartedly agree!!
nice.
Another song about being poor, being sung by a multi-millionaire. Why do these guys think they have to relate to the little guy on this level. Just say no.
I didn't like this song at first, but it's grown on me...a lot. But maybe that't just because I also happen to love "those idiots" Peter Gabriel, Davie Bowie, and U2. (Idiots? Hardly.) P.S: I don't think Eno has ever produced a Gabriel record, although PG did work with an Eno protege, Daniel Lanois, for Us.
I see cynacism is still alive and well in New York city. Eno is over rated though... just ask David Byrne, Peter Gabriel, Robert Fripp, David Bowie, U2, and a score of other collaboraters. Idiots one and all. chucklesalmon wrote:
This album has definitely been challenging. I only gave it this much of a chance because, hey, it's Paul Simon. I hated it. but guess what? Like all of his other albums, it grew on me. A lot. Now it goes up there with his others. The only problem I still have is the "Brian Eno Soundscape" malarkey. As if PS needs Brian Eno to make "soundscapes". Soundscapes. -- what a dated term, full of B.S. Maybe Paul somehow bought into the whole "Brian Eno is an electronic music genius" bit and thought he needed him for what he was trying to accomplish with this one. I'm sure he now learned everything Eno does, and hopefully can integrate it into even better music..... on his OWN.
I'm still not used to the music, but how nice to listen to PS's wonderful lyrics.
This album has definitely been challenging. I only gave it this much of a chance because, hey, it's Paul Simon. I hated it. but guess what? Like all of his other albums, it grew on me. A lot. Now it goes up there with his others. The only problem I still have is the "Brian Eno Soundscape" malarkey. As if PS needs Brian Eno to make "soundscapes". Soundscapes. -- what a dated term, full of B.S. Maybe Paul somehow bought into the whole "Brian Eno is an electronic music genius" bit and thought he needed him for what he was trying to accomplish with this one. I'm sure he now learned everything Eno does, and hopefully can integrate it into even better music..... on his OWN.
Verpeiler wrote:
What a terrible song. I gave it a 2 – just so next time I'll have the joy of dropping my rating to 1. Blech …
What a perverse sense of joy you have.
ziggytrix wrote:
If you hate this album, but normally like Paul Simon, blame Brian Eno. Same for the converse emotion. Collaboration projects that pair fairly dissimilar artists like this one are neat, but often alienate fans of one artist or the other. Me, I'm diggin it. :)
Own it. Love it. But then again, I've always been a fan of the two involved with this project. In their own ways.
Antigone wrote:
My $.02 worth: he's not afraid to try something different and new for himself. Stretching himself as an artist ... I admire him all the more for that!
Yup. Paul has a real ability to have one foot in the new and one foot in the past. The tension between the two has helped him create some great music, like this, for a long time.
ziggytrix wrote:
If you hate this album, but normally like Paul Simon, blame Brian Eno. Same for the converse emotion.....:)
Which reminds me. Can anyone upload some Brian Eno stuff. It is sadly lacking from the RP playlists
The only problem you people who hate this have is that you hate the idea of time and change and evolution. You refuse to accept an artist's need to evolve -- to use old sounds in ways that are new to the artist. Paul Simon is an artist and he is exploring all the mediums he has at his disposal. I applaud him. This stands toe to toe with the rest of his work.
I like Paul Simon, but......YUCK
Hey I love Paul - even now - I dig it too! Purists shouldn't complain - they have his old albums to listen to! :)
Anyone else get a Francis Dunnery thing in there? 8.
If you hate this album, but normally like Paul Simon, blame Brian Eno. Same for the converse emotion. Collaboration projects that pair fairly dissimilar artists like this one are neat, but often alienate fans of one artist or the other. Me, I'm diggin it. :)
Cesarius wrote:
Paul Simon went to the Peter Gabriel School of postproduction and fail. It seems like he took an old tape of an old song and added some old synth and some old audio effects. He needs to travel again (Not touring, just travel to see and feel the world) to see if he can turn back to his creative vein. Well, at least he's trying to do something new.
Totally wrong, in my opinion. I love to hear the old masters (like Paul Simon) use electronic instrumentation, because they're the ones who can really make it sound balanced and congruent with the song. I think he's really making music with the electronics, and if it reminds us (you and me ;) ) of Peter Gabriel, then that's that. It's not a bad thing at all.
Paul Simon went to the Peter Gabriel School of postproduction and fail. It seems like he took an old tape of an old song and added some old synth and some old audio effects. He needs to travel again (Not touring, just travel to see and feel the world) to see if he can turn back to his creative vein. Well, at least he's trying to do something new.
I really have enjoyed this album. The lyrics are styled so off-the-cuff, but yet they are thoughtful. This is one of my favorites off the disc. I dunno. "I figure once upon a time I was an ocean...but now I'm a mountain range."
My $.02 worth: he's not afraid to try something different and new for himself. Stretching himself as an artist ... I admire him all the more for that!
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xkolibuul wrote:
Shoot, if Bill could work Britney into the playlist it would be all the more eclectic here.
Maybe, but I don't think Bill will want to sacrifice a huge chunk of his listeners just to break the limits of 'eclecticity'
What a terrible song. I gave it a 2 – just so next time I'll have the joy of dropping my rating to 1. Blech …
Simon and Garfunkel were great... Then Garfunkel decide he was the "real" talent, and they split up and Paul Simon proved he was wrong. Unfortunatly, Paul's songs are seldom more than cute little ditties... which is ok as long as he knows what he is. Now I guess he is tired or bored because his last few albums have been contrived and preachy with no poetry and no music. This is the worst !!! This song is an abomination! This song was so bad, I turned off the radio and put in a CD! I love Radio Paradise, and I love the eclectic mix, but if this CD got stepped on by some ladies high heel, I would not lose any sleep.
chathambing wrote:
I respect PS, but the background music on this song ruins any possibility of enjoying his lyrics & creativity. Not this one, nope, sorry- a 3 at best.
make that a 2 for playing it all the time.
I respect PS, but the background music on this song ruins any possibility of enjoying his lyrics & creativity. Not this one, nope, sorry- a 3 at best.
dmax wrote:
I love the Mothers! No argument there. But why so much Simon? He's one of the top five songwriters of the century, unquestionably. To think less is to underestimate his talent, longevity, and influence on culture.
Well Said, DMAX!!!!!
had never listened to this thru headphones and a higher stream, moving my rating from 8 to 9... radiohead sucks
It's Paul Simon, with the chronicles of the boomer generation: Just listen, try to understand, and be thankful he is still creative after all these years. (Made myself laugh there) But playing the Mothers of Invention is a brilliant idea.
xkolibuul wrote:
I'm sorry, but there's no way to characterize this comment as anything but stupid. Eclectic radio is not dependent on individual artists being eclectic, but rather the way the DJ assembles the songlist. Artists who spend their entire lives in one genre, but do it very well, are just as welcome here as artists who cover a lot of ground. PSimon unquestionably qualifies, as do the M of I. Shoot, if Bill could work Britney into the playlist it would be all the more eclectic here. Though I'd rather hear Richard Thompson's cover of Britney.
The song is stupid as well (and even more).
xkolibuul wrote:
Shoot, if Bill could work Britney into the playlist it would be all the more eclectic here. Though I'd rather hear Richard Thompson's cover of Britney.
xsrossiter wrote:
Why so much Paul Simon? He really is not some great rarity. If you want to put on someone with a broad palette of 'eclectic' talent why not try the Mothers of Invention.
I'm sorry, but there's no way to characterize this comment as anything but stupid. Eclectic radio is not dependent on individual artists being eclectic, but rather the way the DJ assembles the songlist. Artists who spend their entire lives in one genre, but do it very well, are just as welcome here as artists who cover a lot of ground. PSimon unquestionably qualifies, as do the M of I. Shoot, if Bill could work Britney into the playlist it would be all the more eclectic here. Though I'd rather hear Richard Thompson's cover of Britney.
Just upgraded from 7 to 8... I think about quiting smoking a lot too!
Mari wrote:
OO! Pretty close call there rah, 50% psychic with Paul Simon. Good One! (Good Half anyway)
yeah, pretty close! tho i was hoping for "red rubber ball"...
OO! Pretty close call there rah, 50% psychic with Paul Simon. Good One! (Good Half anyway)
not spectacular, but i find it enjoyable. careful, it'll grow on you.
One thing people must realize when a long awaited CD comes along from an ICON is that people learn and grow as time goes on. This is where Paul Simon has evolved to. Give it a listen. Classic line..."Nothing is different, but everthing's changed"
I bought this cd and, I don't know why, but I HATE it! couldn't get past the first few songs. I almost never have that kind of feeling about music.
love the album cover :)
Why so much Paul Simon? He really is not some great rarity. If you want to put on someone with a broad palette of 'eclectic' talent why not try the Mothers of Invention.
mrmojorisin wrote:
Sounds too much like a song from Graceland for me. I don't really like this.
Hm, I think it sounds like in a much more similar vein to things on You're the One.
Well these are the same exact questions I've been asking lately...
Sounds too much like a song from Graceland for me. I don't really like this.
I missed it, darn it! Saw Paul on SNL this past Saturday. He did 2 tunes from this CD. Really hard edged and rockin' for Mr. Simon. I'm really torn. I want to be blown away by this long-anticipated CD, but I'm just not. I hope subsequent listens will sway me. Paul's willingness to explore new styles is impressive, however.
Paul Simon is a legend!
Pretty fon-kay for Paul. On a first listen, I like it.