Muse — Map of the Problematique
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Fear and panic in the air
I want to be free
From desolation and despair
And I feel like everything I sow
Is being swept away
Well I refuse to let you go
I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over?
Life will flash before my eyes
So scattered and lost
I want to touch the other side
And no-one thinks they are to blame
Why can't we see
That when we bleed, we bleed the same
I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over?
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over?
I want to be free
From desolation and despair
And I feel like everything I sow
Is being swept away
Well I refuse to let you go
I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over?
Life will flash before my eyes
So scattered and lost
I want to touch the other side
And no-one thinks they are to blame
Why can't we see
That when we bleed, we bleed the same
I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over?
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over?
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN MY EARBUDS WON'T GO ANY LOUDER?!?!?! 
Well, at least they don't distort and it's probably better for my poor ears anyway...
I quite like Muse. I just wish they had written more than one song.
Given current events, this goes to 11 now.
Manic and intense,love it!
Mosay wrote:Because, looking at the ratings distribution, the "yaysayers" keep their traps shut and just listen. I mean, there's clearly more of them
Great drums, great arrangement… and it rocks! These guys are at the very top of their game.
TimeWaster wrote:
The Resistance has carried me through from rentals at San Diego International bound for somewhere, since many a year!
This is one of those songs that, if it would have existed 20 years ago, would have made it onto my "driving CD" that I made to listen to as I drove to and from my college town... songs like this would be playing, and before I knew it, I'd be going 90 mph.
The Resistance has carried me through from rentals at San Diego International bound for somewhere, since many a year!
JoeHaarlemNL wrote:
Agree, can't play that latino stuff all the time!
Very good Bill, play more Muse. They belong here too!
Agree, can't play that latino stuff all the time!
One of the best bands in Beat Saber.
TimeWaster wrote:
As a german, trust me, too aggressive music isn't compatible with high speed (ok, 120mph+)
This is one of those songs that, if it would have existed 20 years ago, would have made it onto my "driving CD" that I made to listen to as I drove to and from my college town... songs like this would be playing, and before I knew it, I'd be going 90 mph.
As a german, trust me, too aggressive music isn't compatible with high speed (ok, 120mph+)
fredriley wrote:
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
Fred, I like that you used the term 'demonstrably'
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
Fred, I like that you used the term 'demonstrably'
Sorry, this sounds like one of the tunes rejected from a James Bond sound track.
nicknt wrote:
And they're all really good bands and somehow it all still works!
When you hear the sound of four bands playing simultaneously four different genres with a loud noise, it's Muse.
And they're all really good bands and somehow it all still works!
This is one of those songs that, if it would have existed 20 years ago, would have made it onto my "driving CD" that I made to listen to as I drove to and from my college town... songs like this would be playing, and before I knew it, I'd be going 90 mph.
DavidS_UK wrote:
Yes! Lots of reverb! But good reverb! Great Tune!
I always have to turn the volume down a notch for muse, they have taken the wall of sound and taken it to a new level. Yes to other comments, bombastic, OTT and excellent rock with a strong dance and even trance-on-steroids style. Excellent
Yes! Lots of reverb! But good reverb! Great Tune!
Great Tune!! I had never heard of them prior to RP. Now I really like several of their tunes. Thanx RP!
I always have to turn the volume down a notch for muse, they have taken the wall of sound and taken it to a new level. Yes to other comments, bombastic, OTT and excellent rock with a strong dance and even trance-on-steroids style. Excellent
these guys are over the top
AND over the NEXT TOP!
they are over ALL the tops!!!
YEAH!
and I like them
AND over the NEXT TOP!
they are over ALL the tops!!!
YEAH!
and I like them
I like it!! I had never heard of them before. Thanx RP
For all you nay sayers-See them live. You will be changed.
When you hear the sound of four bands playing simultaneously four different genres with a loud noise, it's Muse.
olivertwist wrote:
Agreed! And playing it right after "Hush" by Deep Purple gets me rockin' right to the fridge
This song is pretty great to listen to when finishing up your work day 
Agreed! And playing it right after "Hush" by Deep Purple gets me rockin' right to the fridge
The beginning of this song always makes me think Depeche Mode have shifted into 6th gear, very good!
fredriley wrote:
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
They're just not that melodically interesting.
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
They're just not that melodically interesting.
One of my favorites song to play on drums in my Muse tribute band!!!!!!
fredriley wrote:
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
One of your top ratings Fred........whither thou goest?
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
Used during the start of the Opening Ceremony of London 2012. Awesome memories.
richjohnsonarts326 wrote:
You need to check out some Rush then.
I can't get over how good this band is and that it is a power trio too!
You need to check out some Rush then.
I wonder whether "Muse" or "Blue Man Group" are more "tongue in cheek"....
Once you've heard the weird forced in-breath noise that Matthew does before each verse... You can never un-hear it!
Horrible with a few seconds of interest.
Yeah they definitel;y overdid the flutter on this.
Ick!!
A terrible way to end an otherwise great set of music. I don’t care about the cleverness of the lyrics or what they are “exploring.” The sound is what counts to me and this is a huge negative. Sorry, but that’s my taste.
A terrible way to end an otherwise great set of music. I don’t care about the cleverness of the lyrics or what they are “exploring.” The sound is what counts to me and this is a huge negative. Sorry, but that’s my taste.
fredriley wrote:
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
I love intelligent, informed comments on RP.
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
I love intelligent, informed comments on RP.
There are a couple of interesting podcasts that explore this compression problem.
https://www.20k.org/episodes/h.../
https://www.20k.org/episodes/l...
JHZ wrote:
nottheusualkind wrote:
Thanks to the 'loudness war' obsession, a recording
like this is unlistenable. I hear distortion on it throughout and that
is completely unnecessary.
bluematrix wrote:
I bet there's a soft rock station you could find somewhere. These guys can blow the roof of a concert hall - all that loud goodness is quite welcome now and then.
I don't think nottheusualkind is complaining about the fact that this is loud. The problem with many of the contemporary production is that it is all "loud" or "up-front", which means there is no or little volume dynamic in the sound. It just all sounds loud and up-front. Which a) takes away, well, dynamics from the recording and b) can lead to distortion because it is all in the red (or close to it). The background is that too many people listen to music in compressed formats (MP3 etc) and on devices where recording quality does not matter much. If something is "up-front" and "loud" on these devices and as MP3 it initially and instantly sounds "better", so people click and download (or so the producers hope). However, upon repeated listening and certainly on better equipment you will hear that the quality is actually worse (sometimes there are distortions) and if you are used to the more elaborate and dynamic productions of the more audiophile times you will be missing the dynamics. This can also apply to remixes and reissues by the way.
https://www.20k.org/episodes/h.../
https://www.20k.org/episodes/l...
JHZ wrote:
nottheusualkind wrote:
Thanks to the 'loudness war' obsession, a recording
like this is unlistenable. I hear distortion on it throughout and that
is completely unnecessary.
bluematrix wrote:
I bet there's a soft rock station you could find somewhere. These guys can blow the roof of a concert hall - all that loud goodness is quite welcome now and then.
I don't think nottheusualkind is complaining about the fact that this is loud. The problem with many of the contemporary production is that it is all "loud" or "up-front", which means there is no or little volume dynamic in the sound. It just all sounds loud and up-front. Which a) takes away, well, dynamics from the recording and b) can lead to distortion because it is all in the red (or close to it). The background is that too many people listen to music in compressed formats (MP3 etc) and on devices where recording quality does not matter much. If something is "up-front" and "loud" on these devices and as MP3 it initially and instantly sounds "better", so people click and download (or so the producers hope). However, upon repeated listening and certainly on better equipment you will hear that the quality is actually worse (sometimes there are distortions) and if you are used to the more elaborate and dynamic productions of the more audiophile times you will be missing the dynamics. This can also apply to remixes and reissues by the way.
I can't get over how good this band is and that it is a power trio too!
JHZ wrote:
Agreed. Some music I like in spite of those problems -this is one of them.
I don't think nottheusualkind is complaining about the fact that this is loud. The problem with many of the contemporary production is that it is all "loud" or "up-front", which means there is no or little volume dynamic in the sound. It just all sounds loud and up-front. Which a) takes away, well, dynamics from the recording and b) can lead to distortion because it is all in the red (or close to it). The background is that too many people listen to music in compressed formats (MP3 etc) and on devices where recording quality does not matter much. If something is "up-front" and "loud" on these devices and as MP3 it initially and instantly sounds "better", so people click and download (or so the producers hope). However, upon repeated listening and certainly on better equipment you will hear that the quality is actually worse (sometimes there are distortions) and if you are used to the more elaborate and dynamic productions of the more audiophile times you will be missing the dynamics. This can also apply to remixes and reissues by the way.
Agreed. Some music I like in spite of those problems -this is one of them.
A little up-front, distorted noise rocks pretty good every now and then.
nottheusualkind wrote:
Thanks to the 'loudness war' obsession, a recording
like this is unlistenable. I hear distortion on it throughout and that
is completely unnecessary.
bluematrix wrote:
I bet there's a soft rock station you could find somewhere. These guys can blow the roof of a concert hall - all that loud goodness is quite welcome now and then.
I don't think nottheusualkind is complaining about the fact that this is loud. The problem with many of the contemporary production is that it is all "loud" or "up-front", which means there is no or little volume dynamic in the sound. It just all sounds loud and up-front. Which a) takes away, well, dynamics from the recording and b) can lead to distortion because it is all in the red (or close to it). The background is that too many people listen to music in compressed formats (MP3 etc) and on devices where recording quality does not matter much. If something is "up-front" and "loud" on these devices and as MP3 it initially and instantly sounds "better", so people click and download (or so the producers hope). However, upon repeated listening and certainly on better equipment you will hear that the quality is actually worse (sometimes there are distortions) and if you are used to the more elaborate and dynamic productions of the more audiophile times you will be missing the dynamics. This can also apply to remixes and reissues by the way.
Good wuality speakers might nottheusualkind wrote:
Thanks to the 'loudness war' obsession, a recording like this is unlistenable. I hear distortion on it throughout and that is completely unnecessary.
Or first thing in the morning woohoo!. Better than coffee!! Thx Bill!!!
nottheusualkind wrote:
I bet there's a soft rock station you could find somewhere. These guys can blow the roof of a concert hall - all that loud goodness is quite welcome now and then.
Thanks to the 'loudness war' obsession, a recording like this is unlistenable. I hear distortion on it throughout and that is completely unnecessary.
I bet there's a soft rock station you could find somewhere. These guys can blow the roof of a concert hall - all that loud goodness is quite welcome now and then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx0s-92tXqoFear and panic in the air
I want to be free
From desolation and despair
Seems fitting these days...
I want to be free
From desolation and despair
Seems fitting these days...
dmcanany wrote:
P-tree is da bomb......have a total listen
I don't tend to like some of the harder stuff played on RP, like Porcupine Tree, but this one really works for me. It's not that I don't like harder stuff in general, just not as much here. I'd go for Sex Pistols any day. Bill?
P-tree is da bomb......have a total listen
Everyone in my bivouac is getting down to this top tune🏆
Oh good. It’s over!! 
Another guilty pleasure I crank under the Sennheisers. Muse= not for everyone, perhaps, but incredibly sonic and yeah, melodramatic but that's the point, isn't it?
Rock on, Goldsmith's
Rock on, Goldsmith's
I don't tend to like some of the harder stuff played on RP, like Porcupine Tree, but this one really works for me. It's not that I don't like harder stuff in general, just not as much here. I'd go for Sex Pistols any day. Bill?
I pointedly ignored looking inter Muse after (foolishly) reading the Twilight series and each book being credited to being inspired/fueled by their music. As the books were such pap I assumed the band would be too. At some point heard Super Massive Black Hole and was immediately hooked, and inwardly apologetic to the band - they don't choose their fan base.
Thanks to the 'loudness war' obsession, a recording like this is unlistenable. I hear distortion on it throughout and that is completely unnecessary.
Indeed. I have to completely, totally and utterly agree with fredriley.
To say that MUSE lacks imagination is total bullshit.
fredriley wrote:
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
To say that MUSE lacks imagination is total bullshit.
fredriley wrote:
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
Always thought I should support our 'local' band... They originate a few miles from us.
Never quite made it. Kinda blows hot-n-cold. Right now I've wound up the volume and am loving it.
Never quite made it. Kinda blows hot-n-cold. Right now I've wound up the volume and am loving it.
Funny, 12 years ago (!!!) I posted a comment that was me trying to figure out if this was good or not. Not much later, I got the album, and was blown away. This album is prog and flat out incredible. Their subsequent albums slowly started to pander to the pop/dub step style and I lost interest. But this album is pure genius.
If only they didn't steal the motifs and riffs from other artists...
Among the best groove-masters out there!
New2Radio. UOrderHead.
Could be new names of this band that sounds like a supergroup.
I was listening without paying attention who it was.
I have to admit I thought it was new U2...with a bigger edge.
They do know how to rawk pretty good!
Could be new names of this band that sounds like a supergroup.
I was listening without paying attention who it was.
I have to admit I thought it was new U2...with a bigger edge.
They do know how to rawk pretty good!
khardog145 wrote:
Yep. I like Muse in limited quantities, but every song is so over the top. More so on their newer albums - they seem to be relying too much on the groaning voices and anthemic beats to carry the songs.
Overproduced and the vocals are melodramatic! There's an echo in here.
Yep. I like Muse in limited quantities, but every song is so over the top. More so on their newer albums - they seem to be relying too much on the groaning voices and anthemic beats to carry the songs.
Crank it up! Can't wait to see them in concert this spring in Montréal
An obvious Depeche Mode melodic reference but still a superb track and brilliant live too.
Choosing the right music to accompany a video or film is very important - here is a perfect example of a guy called Jean Yves Blondeau rocketing down the Grimselpass in Switzerland on what is little more than a skateboard strapped to his chest.
Whatever you all think of this Muse song you have got to agree that it goes with the craziness of what you are about to see...
https://youtu.be/sx0s-92tXqo
Enjoy the spectacle and the music together and marvel at what it means to be alive!
Whatever you all think of this Muse song you have got to agree that it goes with the craziness of what you are about to see...
https://youtu.be/sx0s-92tXqo
Enjoy the spectacle and the music together and marvel at what it means to be alive!
Average song
okelle wrote:
I'll second that.
Overproduced and the vocals are melodramatic! There's an echo in here.
Sounds a lot like U2 to me. I'd say "pretty good."
This song is pretty great to listen to when finishing up your work day
nicknt wrote:
Overproduced and boring. For me, an overrated band.
Yep, pure suck.
We know that Bill digs guitars, so why don't we hear any King Crimson (Discipline), which is full of Fripp and Belew??
bump ... bump ... bump
Muse always forces me to bump the volume on RP. Just can't get enough.
reminds me of u2. arena schlock
skip!
Overproduced and boring. For me, an overrated band.
Vivaldi to Muse. That was brilliant, Bill
Yes, I'm in the minority, but my god, this is just so bad, and because I'm steaming thru my AV deck,I don't have a PSD button to press. Horror of horrors! This is just about the only RP tune that provokes me to hit"mute" or change channels.
Oh bummer, I just sicked up on myself...again. Are there any other songs on the album...that might not trigger such distaste?
Oh bummer, I just sicked up on myself...again. Are there any other songs on the album...that might not trigger such distaste?
Very low energy music. Soporific. Where's Stockhausen when you need him?
baylees wrote:
DrLex wrote:
segue = a seamless transition between songs.
Segway =
(and I'm pretty sure Vivaldi didn't have one.)
Vivaldi probably did not, but Joseph Haydn is believed to have had a segway; according to legend, he found it in some overgrown hedges behind Galileo's gazebo.
WIN l segway from Vivaldi ..... I'm OK with this. Love the tom-tom drum beat, emotion of the singer the synth and e guitar AND a good old PIANO.
DrLex wrote:
segue = a seamless transition between songs.
Segway =
(and I'm pretty sure Vivaldi didn't have one.)Vivaldi probably did not, but Joseph Haydn is believed to have had a segway; according to legend, he found it in some overgrown hedges behind Galileo's gazebo.
Really nice set Bill.
Yeah that was a great transition, really great tonight
DrLex wrote:
segue = a seamless transition between songs.
Segway = (and I'm pretty sure Vivaldi didn't have one.)
Not a segway but also on wheels going down the Gotthard mountain. Muse fits wonderfully in this spectacular clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx0s-92tXqo
segue = a seamless transition between songs.
Segway =
(and I'm pretty sure Vivaldi didn't have one.)Not a segway but also on wheels going down the Gotthard mountain. Muse fits wonderfully in this spectacular clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx0s-92tXqo
baylees wrote:
segue = a seamless transition between songs.
Segway = (and I'm pretty sure Vivaldi didn't have one.)
WIN l segway from Vivaldi ..... I'm OK with this. Love the tom-tom drum beat, emotion of the singer the synth and e guitar AND a good old PIANO.
segue = a seamless transition between songs.
Segway =
(and I'm pretty sure Vivaldi didn't have one.) pankman wrote:
Well, it is. You're right. They are masters of ripping other artists off. This particular song, while good, has direct elements of Enjoy the silence by Depeche Mode.
Then again, this is their best and *only* good album, as far as I'm concerned.
Oh no, not this theatrical crap! 
Well, it is. You're right. They are masters of ripping other artists off. This particular song, while good, has direct elements of Enjoy the silence by Depeche Mode.
Then again, this is their best and *only* good album, as far as I'm concerned.
WIN l segway from Vivaldi ..... I'm OK with this. Love the tom-tom drum beat, emotion of the singer the synth and e guitar AND a good old PIANO.
Oh no, not this theatrical crap!
lkovathana wrote:
Yes, always!!
Love Muse. Better heard blasted through your car stereo driving through a mountain road at 3:30 am
Yes, always!!
"And now for something completely different"...
dios Mio!!!
dios Mio!!!
Love Muse. Better heard blasted through your car stereo driving through a mountain road at 3:30 am
Very good Bill, play more Muse. They belong here too!
I love all the different comments about this song, both the for and against were interesting enough for me to make it though listening to this lame thang.
Proclivities wrote:
Not that I care much for or about this band, but there are easily thousands of things more baneful than "Muse's lack of creative thought" in the first fifteen years of this millennium.
Completely agree. So much in fact that it's pretty clear that Muse's rehashmoism is a rehash of the New Milenium's rehashmo.
It just gets worse every time I hear it — straight up vomitrocious. My PSD button didn't do what I hoped, that it would actually play something different, but at least the chundering vocals eventually end, phew!
Not that I care much for or about this band, but there are easily thousands of things more baneful than "Muse's lack of creative thought" in the first fifteen years of this millennium.
Completely agree. So much in fact that it's pretty clear that Muse's rehashmoism is a rehash of the New Milenium's rehashmo.
It just gets worse every time I hear it — straight up vomitrocious. My PSD button didn't do what I hoped, that it would actually play something different, but at least the chundering vocals eventually end, phew!
We used to call (lovingly) this kind of music PAR..Pretentious Art Rock. Older examples would include Yes, King Crimson and Gentle Giant. I think it is great someone is doing it again. Hell even the band name fits the mold. Good stuff. Will listen to more.
S-curvy wrote:
...Muse's lack of creative thought seems to be the bane of the New Millenium...
Not that I care much for or about this band, but there are easily thousands of things more baneful than "Muse's lack of creative thought" in the first fifteen years of this millennium.
...Muse's lack of creative thought seems to be the bane of the New Millenium...
Not that I care much for or about this band, but there are easily thousands of things more baneful than "Muse's lack of creative thought" in the first fifteen years of this millennium.
helluva segue Bill....Love me some Muse...especially after some Vivaldi...
I'd rather hear Radar Love again.
S-curvy wrote:
Fred, clearly we each focus on different aspects of music. I don't often have the lyrics available, so it is indeed the music, not the lyrics, that I am referring to when I call their music or their "sound" derivative. Now that I think about it, I may have been trying to be kind when I compared Muse to New Order's considerable talent, because it was some of the really atrocious mid-80's dance club flash-in-the-pain bands who already paved Muse's musical path. Sadly, that sound is so damn off-putting that I can't listen long enough to make out the lyrics; I guess I should just stick to reading the real books that they're singing aria's about.
Proof: Freddy has now proven he is a Muse fanboy.
Fair enough. I feel much the same about The Who - I can barely tolerate two notes before I PSD or mute or jump out of a high window. Muse is for sure bombastic and overblown, perhaps to a similar degree that Queen was. I was a New Order fan so I find it hard to put the two into the same genre, not least because you could dance to NO.
I think I might be a bit on the, erm, senior side to be a "fanboy" of anything, other than good beer and whiskey :*)
A bheil thu a' fuireach air an Eilean Sgitheanach?
Fred, clearly we each focus on different aspects of music. I don't often have the lyrics available, so it is indeed the music, not the lyrics, that I am referring to when I call their music or their "sound" derivative. Now that I think about it, I may have been trying to be kind when I compared Muse to New Order's considerable talent, because it was some of the really atrocious mid-80's dance club flash-in-the-pain bands who already paved Muse's musical path. Sadly, that sound is so damn off-putting that I can't listen long enough to make out the lyrics; I guess I should just stick to reading the real books that they're singing aria's about.
Proof: Freddy has now proven he is a Muse fanboy.
Fair enough. I feel much the same about The Who - I can barely tolerate two notes before I PSD or mute or jump out of a high window. Muse is for sure bombastic and overblown, perhaps to a similar degree that Queen was. I was a New Order fan so I find it hard to put the two into the same genre, not least because you could dance to NO.
I think I might be a bit on the, erm, senior side to be a "fanboy" of anything, other than good beer and whiskey :*)
A bheil thu a' fuireach air an Eilean Sgitheanach?
fredriley wrote:
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
Fred, clearly we each focus on different aspects of music. I don't often have the lyrics available, so it is indeed the music, not the lyrics, that I am referring to when I call their music or their "sound" derivative. Now that I think about it, I may have been trying to be kind when I compared Muse to New Order's considerable talent, because it was some of the really atrocious mid-80's dance club flash-in-the-pain bands who already paved Muse's musical path. Sadly, that sound is so damn off-putting that I can't listen long enough to make out the lyrics; I guess I should just stick to reading the real books that they're singing aria's about.
Proof: Freddy has now proven he is a Muse fanboy.
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
Fred, clearly we each focus on different aspects of music. I don't often have the lyrics available, so it is indeed the music, not the lyrics, that I am referring to when I call their music or their "sound" derivative. Now that I think about it, I may have been trying to be kind when I compared Muse to New Order's considerable talent, because it was some of the really atrocious mid-80's dance club flash-in-the-pain bands who already paved Muse's musical path. Sadly, that sound is so damn off-putting that I can't listen long enough to make out the lyrics; I guess I should just stick to reading the real books that they're singing aria's about.
Proof: Freddy has now proven he is a Muse fanboy.
I love these guys in small dosages 
I think I'll go watch basketball.
S-curvy wrote:
Agreed. This reminds me of a bombastic version of New Order, without the fresh edge/angst that those guys brought. Just another New Millennium over-produced derivative band in search of creativity. Everything of Muse's that I have heard has been a lame deja vu of much better music. Harsh words, I know, but I think this is my 1st 1-rating....
Muse's lack of creative thought seems to be the bane of the New Millenium
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
Agreed. This reminds me of a bombastic version of New Order, without the fresh edge/angst that those guys brought. Just another New Millennium over-produced derivative band in search of creativity. Everything of Muse's that I have heard has been a lame deja vu of much better music. Harsh words, I know, but I think this is my 1st 1-rating....
Muse's lack of creative thought seems to be the bane of the New Millenium
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.
Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
more energetic version of radiohead
mauguima wrote:
I agree that the band (without the singer) rocks in a way. But, no, the singer, he wants to be a diva, not a rocker. He want's to show his vocal extension, tries to be super emotional, which to my ears sounds quite the opposite, emotionless. He would fit better to be a contester in American Idol. Which is totally fair, just not for my taste.
FWI I barelly know Tori Amos, not my kind of music either.
Actually the "diva" qualities (and to some extent the qualities of vocals) of the singer remind me of other leads, in this case, Dennis DeYoung, formerly of Styx and the late, great Freddie Mercury. To be sure he's not of the same level as Mercury, but there's a lot of potential there, from what I hear.
I agree that the band (without the singer) rocks in a way. But, no, the singer, he wants to be a diva, not a rocker. He want's to show his vocal extension, tries to be super emotional, which to my ears sounds quite the opposite, emotionless. He would fit better to be a contester in American Idol. Which is totally fair, just not for my taste.
FWI I barelly know Tori Amos, not my kind of music either.
Actually the "diva" qualities (and to some extent the qualities of vocals) of the singer remind me of other leads, in this case, Dennis DeYoung, formerly of Styx and the late, great Freddie Mercury. To be sure he's not of the same level as Mercury, but there's a lot of potential there, from what I hear.
Makes me wanna put on my running shoes and go out... run Forrest RUN!!!!
mauguima wrote:
I agree that the band (without the singer) rocks in a way. But, no, the singer, he wants to be a diva, not a rocker. He want's to show his vocal extension, tries to be super emotional, which to my ears sounds quite the opposite, emotionless. He would fit better to be a contester in American Idol. Which is totally fair, just not for my taste.
FWI I barelly know Tori Amos, not my kind of music either.
What a cool word is "anodyne". Fits usually.
I agree that the band (without the singer) rocks in a way. But, no, the singer, he wants to be a diva, not a rocker. He want's to show his vocal extension, tries to be super emotional, which to my ears sounds quite the opposite, emotionless. He would fit better to be a contester in American Idol. Which is totally fair, just not for my taste.
FWI I barelly know Tori Amos, not my kind of music either.
What a cool word is "anodyne". Fits usually.
DavidS_UK wrote:
You must have loved the bland, anodyne wailing of Tori Amos who followed then!
As the man said in the post below, it rocks, deal with it :-)
PS - Seems this is one of those 'Marmite' bands that people love or hate, yet so far it isn't a double peak in the chart...
I agree that the band (without the singer) rocks in a way. But, no, the singer, he wants to be a diva, not a rocker. He want's to show his vocal extension, tries to be super emotional, which to my ears sounds quite the opposite, emotionless. He would fit better to be a contester in American Idol. Which is totally fair, just not for my taste.
FWI I barelly know Tori Amos, not my kind of music either.
You must have loved the bland, anodyne wailing of Tori Amos who followed then!
As the man said in the post below, it rocks, deal with it :-)
PS - Seems this is one of those 'Marmite' bands that people love or hate, yet so far it isn't a double peak in the chart...
I agree that the band (without the singer) rocks in a way. But, no, the singer, he wants to be a diva, not a rocker. He want's to show his vocal extension, tries to be super emotional, which to my ears sounds quite the opposite, emotionless. He would fit better to be a contester in American Idol. Which is totally fair, just not for my taste.
FWI I barelly know Tori Amos, not my kind of music either.
mauguima wrote:
You must have loved the bland, anodyne wailing of Tori Amos who followed then!
As the man said in the post below, it rocks, deal with it :-)
PS - Seems this is one of those 'Marmite' bands that people love or hate, yet so far it isn't a double peak in the chart...
For a breaf moment I thought it was Depeche Mode. But it's just the crying-their-misery guys. This singer is unbearable. Too melodramatic for my taste.
You must have loved the bland, anodyne wailing of Tori Amos who followed then!
As the man said in the post below, it rocks, deal with it :-)
PS - Seems this is one of those 'Marmite' bands that people love or hate, yet so far it isn't a double peak in the chart...
It rocks. Deal with it.
Emphatic and empty ... full boredom.
For a breaf moment I thought it was Depeche Mode. But it's just the crying-their-misery guys. This singer is unbearable. Too melodramatic for my taste.
I feel fuzzy
There is a place for Muse, generally at a Muse concert in the middle of nowhere. Impressive sounding music and great live, but not too often.
Uhg, I'm not feeling well ... Again!
S-curvy wrote:
Agreed. This reminds me of a bombastic version of New Order, without the fresh edge/angst that those guys brought. Just another New Millennium over-produced derivative band in search of creativity. Everything of Muse's that I have heard has been a lame deja vu of much better music. Harsh words, I know, but I think this is my 1st 1-rating....
Muse's lack of creative thought seems to be the bane of the New Millenium: Musical rehashes, musical mash-ups, dubbed/sampled music (i.e., Hip-Hop) endless movie remakes, endless movie renditions of 50's & 60's comic books, pathetically nostalgic car designs, interior designs that are convinced that now and the future look like 1950's Americana, and Tea Party politicians who really want America to behave like 1920's America. Viva la Regression, Down with progress!
Agreed. This reminds me of a bombastic version of New Order, without the fresh edge/angst that those guys brought. Just another New Millennium over-produced derivative band in search of creativity. Everything of Muse's that I have heard has been a lame deja vu of much better music. Harsh words, I know, but I think this is my 1st 1-rating....
Muse's lack of creative thought seems to be the bane of the New Millenium: Musical rehashes, musical mash-ups, dubbed/sampled music (i.e., Hip-Hop) endless movie remakes, endless movie renditions of 50's & 60's comic books, pathetically nostalgic car designs, interior designs that are convinced that now and the future look like 1950's Americana, and Tea Party politicians who really want America to behave like 1920's America. Viva la Regression, Down with progress!
sirdroseph wrote:
NO no no no no no no.
Please refrain from equating this band with Queen.
fredriley really tooted Muse's horn and compared them to Queen. Could Freddy be a fanboy?
NO no no no no no no.
Please refrain from equating this band with Queen.fredriley really tooted Muse's horn and compared them to Queen. Could Freddy be a fanboy?
nicknt wrote:
Agreed. This reminds me of a bombastic version of New Order, without the fresh edge/angst that those guys brought. Just another New Millennium over-produced derivative band in search of creativity. Everything of Muse's that I have heard has been a lame deja vu of much better music. Harsh words, I know, but I think this is my 1st 1-rating....
Muse's lack of creative thought seems to be the bane of the New Millenium: Musical rehashes, musical mash-ups, dubbed/sampled music (i.e., Hip-Hop) endless movie remakes, endless movie renditions of 50's & 60's comic books, pathetically nostalgic car designs, interior designs that are convinced that now and the future look like 1950's Americana, and Tea Party politicians who really want America to behave like 1920's America. Viva la Regression, Down with progress!
A pompous song from a highly overrated band.
Agreed. This reminds me of a bombastic version of New Order, without the fresh edge/angst that those guys brought. Just another New Millennium over-produced derivative band in search of creativity. Everything of Muse's that I have heard has been a lame deja vu of much better music. Harsh words, I know, but I think this is my 1st 1-rating....
Muse's lack of creative thought seems to be the bane of the New Millenium: Musical rehashes, musical mash-ups, dubbed/sampled music (i.e., Hip-Hop) endless movie remakes, endless movie renditions of 50's & 60's comic books, pathetically nostalgic car designs, interior designs that are convinced that now and the future look like 1950's Americana, and Tea Party politicians who really want America to behave like 1920's America. Viva la Regression, Down with progress!
cShaggy wrote:
I'm pretty sure that somewhere in there I heard,"You've got the looks, I've got the brains. Let's make lots of money"
"Map Of The Problematique"
Thanks to Chris for adding these lyrics.
Thanks to Camille, derek.2701, Cynthia for correcting these lyrics.
Fear and panic in the air
I want to be free
From desolation and despair
And I feel like everything I sow
Is being swept away
Well I refuse to let you go
I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over
Life will flash before my eyes
So scattered and lost
I want to touch the other side
And no one thinks they are to blame
Why can't we see
That when we bleed we bleed the same
I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over
I want to be free
From desolation and despair
And I feel like everything I sow
Is being swept away
Well I refuse to let you go
I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over
Life will flash before my eyes
So scattered and lost
I want to touch the other side
And no one thinks they are to blame
Why can't we see
That when we bleed we bleed the same
I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over
Thanks to Chris for adding these lyrics.
Thanks to Camille, derek.2701, Cynthia for correcting these lyrics.
I'm pretty sure that somewhere in there I heard,"You've got the looks, I've got the brains. Let's make lots of money"