What is the cost of Greater LA helicopter transportation in a helicopter large enough to carry 9? ~US$5K/hour? More?
How much time was he saving by avoiding LA traffic?
Helicopter travel is a risky way to show wealth.
SO i am fine if I never take flight in a helicopter...they scare me...but statistically speaking helicopters are about 7X safer than going the same distance in a car. I was surprised when I saw someone post this, and it doesn't change my mind...but it's not a bad way to get around if you can afford it.
The âdeath indexâ is the number of times more likely you are to die. So, for example, the data in the chart below shows that a person traveling in the U.S. by intercity rail is 20 times as likely to die from that mode of transportation while traveling the same approximate distance as compared to a person flying on a scheduled passenger flight (though the rates for each are low).
Transportation mode
Death index
Airlines
1
Intercity rail (Amtrak)
20.0
Scheduled charter flights
34.3
Mass transit (rail and bus)
49.8
Non-scheduled charter flights
59.5
Non-scheduled helicopter flights
63.0
General aviation (like private planes)
271.7
Driving or riding in a car/SUV
453.6
Chart data compiled and analyzed from NTSB, U.S. DOT via Diio Mi, NHTSA.
Driving or riding in a Tesla on (or off) autopilot 999.9
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Jan 28, 2020 - 1:21pm
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
I don't want to make light on the facebook page because Beezy's hurting, but I just snorted some coffee reading a newspaper article about a guy who died fishing on a lake. The brief notice ends with
The lake covers 11,200 surface acres with a total capacity of 129,800 acre-feet and about 339 miles of shoreline. It is a recreational lake with fishing opportunities for large-mouth bass, spotted bass, bluegill and other sunfish, crappie, catfish, striped bass, hybrid and white bass.
What is the cost of Greater LA helicopter transportation in a helicopter large enough to carry 9? ~US$5K/hour? More?
How much time was he saving by avoiding LA traffic?
Helicopter travel is a risky way to show wealth.
SO i am fine if I never take flight in a helicopter...they scare me...but statistically speaking helicopters are about 7X safer than going the same distance in a car. I was surprised when I saw someone post this, and it doesn't change my mind...but it's not a bad way to get around if you can afford it.
The âdeath indexâ is the number of times more likely you are to die. So, for example, the data in the chart below shows that a person traveling in the U.S. by intercity rail is 20 times as likely to die from that mode of transportation while traveling the same approximate distance as compared to a person flying on a scheduled passenger flight (though the rates for each are low).
Transportation mode
Death index
Airlines
1
Intercity rail (Amtrak)
20.0
Scheduled charter flights
34.3
Mass transit (rail and bus)
49.8
Non-scheduled charter flights
59.5
Non-scheduled helicopter flights
63.0
General aviation (like private planes)
271.7
Driving or riding in a car/SUV
453.6
Chart data compiled and analyzed from NTSB, U.S. DOT via Diio Mi, NHTSA.
I used to fly in helicopters a lot in a former life. IMO the pilot skill and the quality of the company have a huge effect on safety. The mostly routine flying probably doesn't do a lot for maintaining skills for the commuter service, even as the pilot racks up a lot of hours. But they probably put in their dues in gnarly situations like servicing offshore rigs so who knows?
Interesting that Amtrak is higher than airlines. Most of the deaths are probably suicide #badjoke
I don't want to make light on the facebook page because Beezy's hurting, but I just snorted some coffee reading a newspaper article about a guy who died fishing on a lake. The brief notice ends with
The lake covers 11,200 surface acres with a total capacity of 129,800 acre-feet and about 339 miles of shoreline. It is a recreational lake with fishing opportunities for large-mouth bass, spotted bass, bluegill and other sunfish, crappie, catfish, striped bass, hybrid and white bass.
What is the cost of Greater LA helicopter transportation in a helicopter large enough to carry 9? ~US$5K/hour? More?
How much time was he saving by avoiding LA traffic?
Helicopter travel is a risky way to show wealth.
SO i am fine if I never take flight in a helicopter...they scare me...but statistically speaking helicopters are about 7X safer than going the same distance in a car. I was surprised when I saw someone post this, and it doesn't change my mind...but it's not a bad way to get around if you can afford it.
The âdeath indexâ is the number of times more likely you are to die. So, for example, the data in the chart below shows that a person traveling in the U.S. by intercity rail is 20 times as likely to die from that mode of transportation while traveling the same approximate distance as compared to a person flying on a scheduled passenger flight (though the rates for each are low).
Transportation mode
Death index
Airlines
1
Intercity rail (Amtrak)
20.0
Scheduled charter flights
34.3
Mass transit (rail and bus)
49.8
Non-scheduled charter flights
59.5
Non-scheduled helicopter flights
63.0
General aviation (like private planes)
271.7
Driving or riding in a car/SUV
453.6
Chart data compiled and analyzed from NTSB, U.S. DOT via Diio Mi, NHTSA.
I am seeing from all sides people taking Kobe's death and moreso the medias and public's response to the news and applying their own agendas. Look, of course he is going to get more media coverage than the other people on board. Everyone knows who Kobe is so it is the death of someone you know and have seen many times, maybe he has even given you some entertainment or even if you don't follow sports because he spoke what 4 or 5 languages lived in different countries and was a true metropolitan public figure who had interesting things to say. Then there is also the dark side, what happened in that hotel room so many years ago? I saw a post by the alleged victims Godfather I think and the only reason he posted was to stick up for her because of the terrible things people were saying in relation to her receiving a settlement to not testify. The whole situation and how to approach it, just like Kobe, is very complicated. I know I have heard the stories regarding Ellen Degeneres private life, but I have always admired her public life and think that she has an impeccable skill on approaching subjects with the imo correct perspective. She has the amazing ability to espouse her opinions which many may not agree with in a respectful way that always seems to come around to we're all in this together. I really liked her response to Kobe's death.
Kobe is king here in L.A. He meant so much to all of us. And you're right, he should not have been flying that helicopter. He got all his requisite certifications, yada yada, but he was a hobby amateur pilot. Real pilots know about the fog that was there, and the way the machine handles in the extra pressure of fog, and how to handle such low visibility. A man who can afford a pilot, should hire one when he ferries 9 people. I'm all for getting your own maching and flying it maybe with a friend or two. He got his certifications and they wanted to sell him the most expensive machine they could. There's blood on many hands in this situation, and lessons to be learned. If 9 people need to be transported, you need a near professional, former professional or current professional to fly them, period.
No, you're thinking of John Denver. BTW, I know it is against the rules, but you got anymore of that stuff to send my way? It must be pretty damn good.
Kobe...he should not have been flying that helicopter. He got all his requisite certifications, yada yada, but he was a hobby amateur pilot. Real pilots know about the fog that was there, and the way the machine handles in the extra pressure of fog, and how to handle such low visibility. A man who can afford a pilot, should hire one when he ferries 9 people...
Kobe is king here in L.A. He meant so much to all of us. And you're right, he should not have been flying that helicopter. He got all his requisite certifications, yada yada, but he was a hobby amateur pilot. Real pilots know about the fog that was there, and the way the machine handles in the extra pressure of fog, and how to handle such low visibility. A man who can afford a pilot, should hire one when he ferries 9 people. I'm all for getting your own maching and flying it maybe with a friend or two. He got his certifications and they wanted to sell him the most expensive machine they could. There's blood on many hands in this situation, and lessons to be learned. If 9 people need to be transported, you need a near professional, former professional or current professional to fly them, period.
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Kobe is king here in L.A. He meant so much to all of us. And you're right, he should not have been flying that helicopter. He got all his requisite certifications, yada yada, but he was a hobby amateur pilot. Real pilots know about the fog that was there, and the way the machine handles in the extra pressure of fog, and how to handle such low visibility. A man who can afford a pilot, should hire one when he ferries 9 people. I'm all for getting your own maching and flying it maybe with a friend or two. He got his certifications and they wanted to sell him the most expensive machine they could. There's blood on many hands in this situation, and lessons to be learned. If 9 people need to be transported, you need a near professional, former professional or current professional to fly them, period.
I am not a fan of spectator sports but this man appears to be very popular and for lots of good reasons. Talking to a buddy last night, it would seem that Kobe has lots of admiring fans up here in Canada. Sad.
I have been up and down numerous times in small helicopters, especially many decades ago while slashing seismic lines for oil and gas exploration in the Canadian Rocky mountains — both in SE British Columbia and SW Alberta. Back in those days, large straight lanes were still cleared with chain saws. These days, the jug lines are run around and in between trees, a major improvement. Clear cut seismic lines can have negative ecological impacts. I digress.
Our camp helicopter pilot had an accident and ended up spending several weeks recovering in hospital. The stats of helicopters are not pretty — it is the most dangerous form of modern transportation. I believe helicopter use is even more dangerous in mountain ranges due to shifting winds.
It is indeed spectacular to fly around the Rockies in a helicopter but frankly if I never get in one again I will be very, very happy.
Every helicopter pilot I've met has been cautious to a fault, and it sounds like this company is no exception. And yet they were flying VFR in fog, when other helicopters were grounded. The pressure to not "be the bad guy" and tell Kobe you can't fly must be immense.
BTW, I know it is against the rules, but you got anymore of that stuff to send my way? It must be pretty damn good.
